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mikej

Hall of Fame
i've seen better efforts from shelton than the first three games of third set, going down two breaks while checking out on a bunch of flat no-room-for-error backhands

good win texas

looking forward to seeing UVA guys across the net for the first time in a while
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
goodger and his friend the net cord even it at 3-3

now this sad third set performance by shelton will end it, but he's still solidly in the green w/ respect to UF fans, whatever happens here
 

jmnk

Hall of Fame
and the #1 reason why Stanford lost. They wanted to play against the best. Florida is the reigning Champion. So in anticipation of Florida losing later in the day Stanford also lost so they can possibly play against Florida in the consolation draw. Brilliant. I did not see it at first. But it is painfully obvious now :)
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
and the #1 reason why Stanford lost. They wanted to play against the best. Florida is the reigning Champion. So in anticipation of Florida losing later in the day Stanford also lost so they can possibly play against Florida in the consolation draw. Brilliant. I did not see it at first. But it is painfully obvious now :)

the only incorrect reason listed thus far - Stanford dodges serious competition like it's their mission statement - they'd rather play San Francisco and St Mary's and Cal Poly than anyone in the SEC
 

tennisfan17

Professional
Man this is an easy draw for the Card

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This didn’t age well.
 
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mikej

Hall of Fame
This didn’t age well. Easy draw to lose? Oh sorry they were all injured and fatigued and too weak to play. My b

Paul Goldstein believes in infecting all Stanford tennis recruits with chronic Lyme disease on arrival to campus. So injured / fatigued / psychotic is quite honestly how they spend their time at the Farm. It's a bold strategy.

Meanwhile UF develops market-leading electrolyte drinks so their student-athletes can thrive in the heat.

I leave it to the next generation of blue chip tennis parents - send your kids to a school focused on optimizing fitness and performance, or one where they'll suffer from chronic fatigue and joint pains for the rest of their lives, all because one washed up former ATP pro has a strange tick fetish.
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
true. Although I do not think anyone does it these days. It seems to me most (if not all) of those players actually realize the chance of being a pro is slim to none, regardless of where you play college. So they use tennis as means to get to Stanford, and perhaps get some scholarship. And that is the goal in itself - to get education from Stanford. And truth to be told - that is, in my opinion, good way of thinking.
Still does not excuse them losing today.
But Stanford used to win titles. Something changed in the coaching and the culture there.
 

Liam Grennon

Professional
and lost 4 and 3 to Strom. 0-2 this year against Georgia's #3....Hamish Stewart. When he played Boitan (a #1), Boitan led 6-0,3-0 at one point. I am not talking about what he will do 2 years from now. The match against Vale was the first match of the year. If they play in May, Vale will dominate. Against really top teams, Braswell is not going to consistently win at 2. Braswell will not beat any of Florida's top 3. Braswell will not beat any of Georgia's top 3. He might beat Hurrion of Kentucky but he would not beat Diallo or Draxl. I don't see him beating Fomba or Vives.
Anddddd Braswell played one, beating Riffice (the defending national champion) in straight sets.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Seriously, how a team with such players cannot win is beyond me. One thing I'll say - they do not look like a team but a collection of individual players. Players never even wear the same outfit - I know, it's stupid to point that out, but still. There's nothing screaming 'team' about that bunch of players.
Don't worry little son.. this is just a small setback. Stanford will comeback and win both dual matches on saturday and sunday. and they will win the NCAA in may, that's what really counts. We are Outdoor team, this indoor event is meaningless in bigger picture
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
An outdoor team that never makes it to NCAA quarters or farther, outdoors

but I get what you mean, you guys generally do beat Cal Poly when you play them outdoors

This year is different. All star lineup with #1 player in college D1. and don't forget Boyer is coming back soon then it will look like all pro davis cup lineup
 
rough year so far for the PAC 12
Arizona losing to Texas A&M in the kickoff
mighty Stanford...getting knocked off by the gamecocks
and Kentucky running over....So Cal yesterday

I don't think that we will see the PAC 12 with any top 8 seeds for the outdoor tourney in May
 

jmnk

Hall of Fame
Stanford up 2:1. I have never been _less_ confident about the final result though...... I have no idea where the next 2 points would come from....
 

jmnk

Hall of Fame
Wow, nice comeback by Stanford ! Axel wins after losing the first set. Basing with a huge 1st set tiebreak win, and then coming back in the second from 0:3 two breaks down.
This Fery dude - he is just going through the opponents like through butter.
And to top it off Manchester City losing at home to Tottenham - prefect morning :)
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
oof, UF going to have to rely on Shelton again, and he drops serve at 5-3 in the 3rd, then drops a deuce / match point the next return game

I hope Siimar was unfit for singles for some reason, and we didn't self-sabotage with Greif

Andrade has been great and Vale has been equally not great this weekend
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
good stuff Ben, thanks for salvaging the weekend!

0-2 and heading into a fairly meaningless match against the host Huskies wasn't going to be very satisfying
 
oof, UF going to have to rely on Shelton again, and he drops serve at 5-3 in the 3rd, then drops a deuce / match point the next return game

I hope Siimar was unfit for singles for some reason, and we didn't self-sabotage with Greif

Andrade has been great and Vale has been equally not great this weekend
are Bonetto and Abdullah Shelbayh healthy? They have to be better singles alternatives than Greif
 
good stuff Ben, thanks for salvaging the weekend!

0-2 and heading into a fairly meaningless match against the host Huskies wasn't going to be very satisfying
Host huskies looked really good last night
they beat Ohio State's top 2 teams in doubles
Their #1 player is really, really good....
their #6 player last night...was leading Robert Cash 4-2 in the 3rd set
their #3 singles served for the match against Van Emburgh....Washington #3 singles led Van Emburgh at one point 6-1,4-2

Georgia should be heavily favored against Washington.....but the Huskies threw a scare into the Buckeyes last night. Georgia did not look good at 6 last night. Chidekh should be favored over Hamish Stewart at 1. If Washington gets a big crowd again tonight, the doubles point will be up for grabs.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Wow, nice comeback by Stanford ! Axel wins after losing the first set. Basing with a huge 1st set tiebreak win, and then coming back in the second from 0:3 two breaks down.
This Fery dude - he is just going through the opponents like through butter.
And to top it off Manchester City losing at home to Tottenham - prefect morning :)
I predict it will be Geller vs Fery in the NCAA individual singles final
 

armchair

New User
Tennessee with a gutsy comeback win against a good South Carolina team today. The Vols cruised to the doubles-point win--but then shockingly lost not one, not two, not three, not four, but five first sets against the Gamecocks, three of them tiebreakers, putting the match in jeopardy for the Vols. But UT stormed back to win three of those matches and was headed for a fourth when Emile Hudd wrapped up the team victory for Tennessee. Hudd and Diaz, playing 3 & 4, had the key wins for the Vols, along with Jo Monday, who I think for the 3rd time lost his first set but then dominated the next two for his match win. Ironically, the one Tennessee player who won his first set and seemed headed for a straight-set victory, Matsui at the no.. 5 spot, lost a 2nd-second tiebreaker and ended up losing his match. I believe that was only the second loss of the year for the freshman from Japan, who has been stout for Tennessee this year. A good match.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Tennessee with a gutsy comeback win against a good South Carolina team today. The Vols cruised to the doubles-point win--but then shockingly lost not one, not two, not three, not four, but five first sets against the Gamecocks, three of them tiebreakers, putting the match in jeopardy for the Vols. But UT stormed back to win three of those matches and was headed for a fourth when Emile Hudd wrapped up the team victory for Tennessee. Hudd and Diaz, playing 3 & 4, had the key wins for the Vols, along with Jo Monday, who I think for the 3rd time lost his first set but then dominated the next two for his match win. Ironically, the one Tennessee player who won his first set and seemed headed for a straight-set victory, Matsui at the no.. 5 spot, lost a 2nd-second tiebreaker and ended up losing his match. I believe that was only the second loss of the year for the freshman from Japan, who has been stout for Tennessee this year. A good match.

OSU doing great as usual, indoors. but then put them outdoors, they go nowhere. but expected to beat TCU today in the semis
 
wow, Stanford got mauled by Southern Cal
and the great Arthur Fery would have lost if the match was played out......
oh, my....lets start the excuses.....
1. Stanford is unbeatable as long as they don't have to play a team with the initials USC
that darn univ. of south carolina and darn univ. of southern california...just don't play fair....

unrelated, TCU is really , really good....
their match against Ohio State has been phenomenal quality

their only loss of the year...was against Tennessee...when they were missing Pedro Vives......
 

armchair

New User
Wow: OSU's Van Emburgh wins a tiebreak to get to a his match to a 3rd set that will decide the semifinal...and then he he loses 0-6. Ouch. TCU wins it and ends OSU's run.
 

armchair

New User
wow, Stanford got mauled by Southern Cal
and the great Arthur Fery would have lost if the match was played out......
oh, my....lets start the excuses.....
1. Stanford is unbeatable as long as they don't have to play a team with the initials USC
that darn univ. of south carolina and darn univ. of southern california...just don't play fair....

unrelated, TCU is really , really good....
their match against Ohio State has been phenomenal quality

their only loss of the year...was against Tennessee...when they were missing Pedro Vives......

Vives got walloped today--lost at Love and 2. Wasn't even competitive.
 

jmnk

Hall of Fame
to continue on excuses for Stanford:
# mandatory: multiple Stanford players were injured.
#2 they already beat USC once, and pretty convincingly. Beating them again was not necessary - everybody knows who the better team is.
#3 Had they beat USC again it could have been viewed as PAC-12 being a weak conference with no competition. Why would Stanford want that perception?
#4 The match wasn't played at 9am as the previous two. That messed up the sleeping pattern
#5 After three days of competition there wasn't enough oxygen left in the Seattle Tennis Club building, and Stanford is an outdoor team
#6 Having to play three days in a row is too much to ask a 20 something old athlete. Maybe if they only had to play single's matches. But they were also asked to play a no-ad single set of doubles each day. Borderline abuse.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
to continue on excuses for Stanford:
# mandatory: multiple Stanford players were injured.
#2 they already beat USC once, and pretty convincingly. Beating them again was not necessary - everybody knows who the better team is.
#3 Had they beat USC again it could have been viewed as PAC-12 being a weak conference with no competition. Why would Stanford want that perception?
#4 The match wasn't played at 9am as the previous two. That messed up the sleeping pattern
#5 After three days of competition there was enough oxygen left in the Seattle Tennis Club building, and Stanford is an outdoor team
#6 Having to play three days in a row is too much to ask a 20 something old athlete. Maybe if they only had to play single's matches. But they were also asked to play a no-ad single set of doubles each day. Borderline abuse.

Definitely injured this week. very tired players with very difficult exams coming up next week, they have their minds pre-occupied with. Also Indoors which has no bearing when NCAA tournament time comes around.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Definitely injured this week. very tired players with very difficult exams coming up next week, they have their minds pre-occupied with. Also Indoors which has no bearing when NCAA tournament time comes around.

has plenty of bearing when they’ve completely blown their chance of a top 4 seed in NCAAs

they’ll have a tough road - not that they could win NCAAs even with an easy road
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
has plenty of bearing when they’ve completely blown their chance of a top 4 seed in NCAAs

they’ll have a tough road - not that they could win NCAAs even with an easy road

Stanford doesn't need top 4 seeding, just need to get into the round of 16 then they will dominate their opponents. With Boyer back healthy and also Aryan healthy(he was injured this week), this team won't drop a set all the way to the NCAA title.

On the side note,,,, really feel bad for Dostanic who was 1 game away from upsetting the #1 player in the NCAA and in the world(future), something to tell his grand children about.... Oh well... ;):laughing::laughing:

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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
ITA Indoors are weird. It's always 16 very good teams, but because of the way they do ITA Kickoff weekend and simply the fact that there's been so few duals up to the point of kickoff weekend, and because the host is in no matter its ranking, it's never really the best 16. So, I'm always reluctant to see it as the de facto NCAA indoor team championships (which some people have said). Still huge accomplishment to win.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
3-0 UF, Andrade continues to be an animal and Bonetto takes advantage of the opportunity at 6

4th point going to be harder to come by, would be nice to see Duarte contribute this weekend, fingers crossed
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
ITA Indoors are weird. It's always 16 very good teams, but because of the way they do ITA Kickoff weekend and simply the fact that there's been so few duals up to the point of kickoff weekend, and because the host is in no matter its ranking, it's never really the best 16. So, I'm always reluctant to see it as the de facto NCAA indoor team championships (which some people have said). Still huge accomplishment to win.
It would be a rare year for the top 8 to not make the final 16. Whether the other 8 are actually 9-16 in the nation seems rather trivial, as they won't win anyway. The top 8 are there, and the champion earns it.

Any top 8 team not present this year?
 
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