Mentality aspects of current top players…

dpli2010

dpli2010

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  1. Nole: he is on the top of it right now; besides, his being aware of the more or less mentality instability issues of his current fellow competitors will enhance his chance to reach 12 GS’s and beyond; yes he is 27 and blahblah, but who else in his current peer is able to stop him otherwise?
  2. Roger: it’s getting harder for him to maintain the near-zero heart beat baseline he used to have especially at the critical moments – physicality reduction because of age, 2 pairs of twin kids… May Roger find peace with tennis again for the #18…
  3. Andy: could finally compete for the top dog with the mentality a top dog should have, yet he is too far behind Roger who is still way too strong…
  4. Rafa: he never has mentality issue – he is physicality-driven…
  5. Kei: not enough info available to access him;
  6. Raonic: a new stage has shown up for him and signs have shown up that he can stand on that stage…
  7. Stan: O the mental slacker…
  8. Ferrer: he never has mentality issue – he is a seeker, but may end up finding nothing…
  9. Berdych: he probably will never have chance to arrive at the point where mentality is the discussion of his possibility of competing for a GS...
  10. Cilic: not enough info available to access him;
  11. Dimi: the dangerous one, yet he has not been fully mentally awake to shock the world…
In summary, now the show time for Nole…
 
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Please, with your doctorate in psychology and being an expert prognosticator of people you do not know personally or professionally, why don't you try and psycho-analyze my neighbour Bill as well?

For crying out loud, accusing someone you've never met of being "mentally unstable", going as far as to claim some are not "mentally awake" is laughably silly. Don't play sports psychiatrist when you don't know what you're talking about.
 
Inanimate_object said:
Please, with your doctorate in psychology and being an expert prognosticator of people you do not know personally or professionally, why don't you try and psycho-analyze my neighbour Bill as well?

For crying out loud, accusing someone you've never met of being "mentally unstable", going as far as to claim some are not "mentally awake" is laughably silly. Don't play sports psychiatrist when you don't know what you're talking about.
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Calm down man, I am talking about mentality, the one major factor in determining player's performance/outcomes, not psycho stuff...
 
dpli2010 said:
  1. Nole: he is on the top of it right now; besides, his being aware of the more or less mentality instability issues of his current fellow competitors will enhance his chance to reach 12 GS’s and beyond; yes he is 27 and blahblah, but who else in his current peer is able to stop him otherwise?
  2. Roger: it’s getting harder for him to maintain the near-zero heart beat baseline he used to have especially at the critical moments – physicality reduction because of age, 2 pairs of twin kids… May Roger find peace with tennis again for the #18…
  3. Andy: could finally compete for the top dog with the mentality a top dog should have, yet he is too far behind Roger who is still way too strong…
  4. Rafa: he never has mentality issue – he is physicality-driven…
  5. Kei: not enough info available to access him;
  6. Raonic: a new stage has shown up for him and signs have shown up that he can stand on that stage…
  7. Stan: O the mental slacker…
  8. Ferrer: he never has mentality issue – he is a seeker, but may end up finding nothing…
  9. Berdych: he probably will never have chance to arrive at the point where mentality is the discussion of his possibility of competing for a GS...
  10. Cilic: not enough info available to access him;
  11. Dimi: the dangerous one, yet he has not been fully mentally awake to shock the world…
In summary, now the show time for Nole…
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Each of these top 11 players has their own unique set of sharpened weapons. Any set of these weapons can defeat others when correctly used to have its own unique power delivered. Having a steady mentality throughout the match time and throughout the two weeks ensures the correct use and successful delivery of the power to keep winning. One does it, one is rewarded with GS's...
 
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Inanimate_object said:
Please, with your doctorate in psychology and being an expert prognosticator of people you do not know personally or professionally, why don't you try and psycho-analyze my neighbour Bill as well?

For crying out loud, accusing someone you've never met of being "mentally unstable", going as far as to claim some are not "mentally awake" is laughably silly. Don't play sports psychiatrist when you don't know what you're talking about.
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The talk about mental strength around these parts never ceases to amaze me. Everyone is an expert on everything!
 
Russeljones said:
The talk about mental strength around these parts never ceases to amaze me. Everyone is an expert on everything!
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That is minor to me. The big thing is that people who are utterly incapable of expressing complicated thoughts in their first language attempt to do it in a second.
 
Theme of TT in recent days. Someone puts some effort into making a thread—although they aren't an expert in the field, they try and discuss a topic honestly and just give their view on things.

Then, many members of TT pile in and take a massive **** on the OP and hold them in contempt in a manner that makes me want hold them in contempt for their needless and disheartening cynicism.


Shut up.
 
Double post due to server spasm.

Talk Tennis right now:

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Gary Duane said:
That is minor to me. The big thing is that people who are utterly incapable of expressing complicated thoughts in their first language attempt to do it in a second.
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Well, if you think about it, it's not totally ridiculous - who doesn't want to give it a try of expanding his world...
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Theme of TT in recent days. Someone puts some effort into making a thread—although they aren't an expert in the field, they try and discuss a topic honestly and just give their view on things.

Then, many members of TT pile in and take a massive **** on the OP and hold them in contempt in a manner that makes me want hold them in contempt for their needless and disheartening cynicism.

Shut up.
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Nathaniel_Near said:
Yes and that was clear, yet you get **** on.

It's an annoying recent trend.
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Well, **** happens and it happens all the time, I am cool with that; I care more about finding a bit of truth...
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Theme of TT in recent days. Someone puts some effort into making a thread—although they aren't an expert in the field, they try and discuss a topic honestly and just give their view on things.

Then, many members of TT pile in and take a massive **** on the OP and hold them in contempt in a manner that makes me want hold them in contempt for their needless and disheartening cynicism.


Shut up.
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Accurate, and well said. The internet bullies, crybabies, and know-it-all's need to grow up.
 
dpli2010 said:
Well, **** happens and it happens all the time, I am cool with that; I care more about finding a bit of truth...
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Well let's look at those who might break through in the next couple of years.

Kei Nishikori

If he's getting truly outplayed by his opponent he drops his head and lacks some fight. In equal wars of attrition he thrives and often prevails and shows great spirit.

Milos Raonic

Learned a lot about him at Indian Wells. Nadal had him beat for a lot of their match but Raonic displayed great resilience and clutch at the key moments. I think he has a winners mentality and could go on to achieve great results as long as he continues to hone his weapons (serve, forehand).

Grigor Dimitrov

I honestly can't say much about him as he's too enigmatic and confusing. I think he has some problems managing his intensity levels throughout a match, but he doesn't seem weak at all.. just a bit imbalanced somehow. You stating that Dimitrov is the dangerous one who is not yet "mentally awake" could well be right on the money. He does seem to go to sleep sometimes, and enjoys his double faults too much... somehow it doesn't feel to me like he's "choking", though.
 
The truth is that none of use know anything. That's the truth. We can sit here and pretend to dissect the psychological ticks and genetic markers that make up a person's mentality, but at the end of the day we are entertaining conjecture and spewing nonsense.

You are calling people that you don't know to be mentally unstable - can you not see how most people would call that blindly shooting in the dark, if not outright laughable?

You know nothing about players but what you see on the court. That's not much. People are complex and unless you always wear your heart on your sleeve like Nadal, you are merely attempting to diagnose the most obvious traits of a player (and dubiously), not their underlying mentality.
 
As a professional psychologist (well, okay, still in training), my strictly professional opinion is that Roger Federer has the most stable mentality of any tennis player, is the most well adjusted and also the sexiest. These (scientific) facts are very valuable to his argument for GOAT.
Arrogance, crying when losing and weird hand-bags could be interpreted as symptoms of (nonclinical) narcissism though. But hey, a little narcissism never hurt anyone.

I am also convinced that one of the big four has a rampant case of OCD and some other pathologies, but I shall not reveal whom for the sake of anonymity.

Furthermore, I also suspect one of the big four showcases symptoms of histrionic personality disorder (again, will remain anonymous). These symptoms would be:

(1) continuous seeking for appreciation, excitement and attention.
This would include being desperate for the adulation of the crowd during matches, and things like giving away baked goods to journalists at press-conferences.
(2) shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion.
This would include pretending to be injured and/or drunk during matches, falling over and losing balance, and then suddenly being fine again. Ripping one's shirt (hypothetical example) would also be included here.
(3) consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self.
Again, something like ripping one's shirt and flexing muscles (totally hypothetical again) would be a classic example.
(4) is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention.
Again, not dealing with not being crowd favorite is a classic example.
(5) displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions.
Going from being stoic superman to sarcastically applauding the crowd and breaking racquets and then back again would be an example here.

It should be noted that this analysis is completely scientific and impartial.




It should also be noted—for all those that will inevitably get upset and take this seriously—that this is a joke, and not meant to be serious.
 
^^ the small print wasn't necessary, but these days you have to indemnify yourself against nearly everything, such are the times we post in ;-)
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Well let's look at those who might break through in the next couple of years.

Kei Nishikori

If he's getting truly outplayed by his opponent he drops his head and lacks some fight. In equal wars of attrition he thrives and often prevails and shows great spirit.

Milos Raonic

Learned a lot about him at Indian Wells. Nadal had him beat for a lot of their match but Raonic displayed great resilience and clutch at the key moments. I think he has a winners mentality and could go on to achieve great results as long as he continues to hone his weapons (serve, forehand).

Grigor Dimitrov

I honestly can't say much about him as he's too enigmatic and confusing. I think he has some problems managing his intensity levels throughout a match, but he doesn't seem weak at all.. just a bit imbalanced somehow. You stating that Dimitrov is the dangerous one who is not yet "mentally awake" could well be right on the money. He does seem to go to sleep sometimes, and enjoys his double faults too much... somehow it doesn't feel to me like he's "choking", though.
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Basically agreed with you about these three guys in their possibilities of making a break through, and Dimi is the one that I truly put my bet on, to be honest...
 
Sysyphus said:
As a professional psychologist (well, okay, still in training), my strictly professional opinion is that Roger Federer has the most stable mentality of any tennis player, is the most well adjusted and also the sexiest. These (scientific) facts are very valuable to his argument for GOAT.
Arrogance, crying when losing and weird hand-bags could be interpreted as symptoms of (nonclinical) narcissism though. But hey, a little narcissism never hurt anyone.

I am also convinced that one of the big four has a rampant case of OCD and some other pathologies, but I shall not reveal whom for the sake of anonymity.

Furthermore, I also suspect one of the big four showcases symptoms of histrionic personality disorder (again, will remain anonymous). These symptoms would be:

(1) continuous seeking for appreciation, excitement and attention.
This would include being desperate for the adulation of the crowd during matches, and things like giving away baked goods to journalists at press-conferences.
(2) shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion.
This would include pretending to be injured and/or drunk during matches, falling over and losing balance, and then suddenly being fine again. Ripping one's shirt (hypothetical example) would also be included here.
(3) consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self.
Again, something like ripping one's shirt and flexing muscles (totally hypothetical again) would be a classic example.
(4) is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention.
Again, not dealing with not being crowd favorite is a classic example.
(5) displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions.
Going from being stoic superman to sarcastically applauding the crowd and breaking racquets and then back again would be an example here.

It should be noted that this analysis is completely scientific and impartial.



It should also be noted—for all those that will inevitably get upset and take this seriously—that this is a joke, and not meant to be serious.
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These are also what I see and what I think as well. Roger's recent performance such as in this IW final made me say the words about him in the OP - his move was totally guessed out by Nole in that match, while he got lost in trying to figure out Nole's; and then he seemed to be having difficulty constructing points; on the other hand, it has something to do with the surface if that particular match is to be thoroughly discussed...
 
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Inanimate_object said:
Please, with your doctorate in psychology and being an expert prognosticator of people you do not know personally or professionally, why don't you try and psycho-analyze my neighbour Bill as well?

For crying out loud, accusing someone you've never met of being "mentally unstable", going as far as to claim some are not "mentally awake" is laughably silly. Don't play sports psychiatrist when you don't know what you're talking about.
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Inanimate_object said:
The truth is that none of use know anything. That's the truth. We can sit here and pretend to dissect the psychological ticks and genetic markers that make up a person's mentality, but at the end of the day we are entertaining conjecture and spewing nonsense.

You are calling people that you don't know to be mentally unstable - can you not see how most people would call that blindly shooting in the dark, if not outright laughable?

You know nothing about players but what you see on the court. That's not much. People are complex and unless you always wear your heart on your sleeve like Nadal, you are merely attempting to diagnose the most obvious traits of a player (and dubiously), not their underlying mentality.
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Since this has been mentioned twice, I feel maybe I should double check with you - where in the OP do you read that term? After that clarification, we probably could think about the discussion about truth..
 
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