MEP is back !!!!!

travlerajm said:
Killing the real tennis channel isn’t smart imo.

It’s what defines his brand. The smart thing would be to keep it going as a loss leader to keep his social media profile relevant, and ultimately he will find ways to monetize his brand.

This is like saying you’re going to stop advertising in the superbowl because the audience isn’t buying your stuff.
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Ian mentioned that Essential Tennis is also not doing well and is still coming up to speed.

He also mentioned that sitting in Wisconsin, it is not easy to do tennis stuff. Far more players in other states.
 
sureshs said:
Ian mentioned that Essential Tennis is also not doing well and is still coming up to speed.

He also mentioned that sitting in Wisconsin, it is not easy to do tennis stuff. Far more players in other states.
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That’s why Ian has to live and work on the internet.
 
I liked the RT broader concept of charting the tennis journey of everyday players in their quest for improvement, fitness and fun. That really should have resonated with both players & suppliers alike.

I think they went too off piste with the tennis troll thing and went down a rabbit hole.
 
Jono123 said:
I liked the RT broader concept of charting the tennis journey of every day players in the quest for improvement, fitness and fun. That really should have resonated with players & suppliers alike.
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Do rec players really want to watch other rec players? It might actually do them harm if they subliminally absorb bad technique. MEP is an exception because his videos help rec players to play their nemesis.
 
ChaelAZ said:
YT ads for a 50k video is at least $300 and maybe up to $150. Sponsors might be free stuff, or money as well which can vary depending on placement and such.
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not quite, I have been tasked with negotiating and hiring people from youtube and in this process have accessed the pay breakdown . It's a good hobby, but for sure Winston is doing it for the chicks lol, just kidding he isn't getting chicks from this, he does it as a passion project, to make a "liveable" wage off youtube and even get a tiny amount of interest of being a paid promotor , you need almost daily videos of 300,000 views per video and millions of subscribers.
 
FuzzyYellowBalls said:
... he isn't getting chicks from this
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You know he met his GF with this, right? And she's darn awesome too...if they are still together.

So yeah, he got chicks too. lol.

Anyway, I shoot a lot of videos for fun and make absolutely nothing for tennis content. I have 3 other YT channels and can say, there is money to be made. As Ian said though, tennis is a tough market for YT content creators. Match play is probably the most viewed with Pro stuff still leading it, then college, then high level rec. Somewhere in there can be instruction, but that is losing interest as the market is filled with 'coaches'. Then the least interesting is blogs of personalities, though I personally LOVE Kasatkina and Zabii (https://www.youtube.com/@What_The_Vlog 200k+ views consistently). That tall dude on only winner's is doing decent.
 
FuzzyYellowBalls said:
Very true, the death came with MEP
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Makes sense in a way. Viewership declines from Slams to Masters to 250s to Challengers to Futures to College to High School. Rec players are the lowest in quality in the tennis hierarchy. Maybe some of us here who have been following GSG have an interest, but probably no one outside cares.
 
ChaelAZ said:
For either playing tennis or watching a tennis match and recording it with an iPhone, not bad. And only growing. Not to mention playing with Pros, invites to events, and much more.
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Hey if you're having fun playing tennis and get some pocket money to buy balls/strings, it's a great win. Plus most ppl would love the opportunity to be coached by an ATP player or get to play vs. college players.
 
Roforot said:
Hey if you're having fun playing tennis and get some pocket money to buy balls/strings, it's a great win. Plus most ppl would love the opportunity to be coached by an ATP player or get to play vs. college players.
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It's fun for sure for him, but trust me, he is working hours upon hours each week editing and not working a real job or improving his career, it's not just a ho hum endeavor. You better love it if you put that much time into it. I'd say 30 ish hours each week not on the tennis court.
 
GSG said:
The hiatus was decided upon at least four months ago, before I'd even played the most recent set of matches. Maybe things would have turned out differently if these match uploads had set the world on fire, but I doubt it.
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GSG said:
The hiatus was decided upon at least four months ago, before I'd even played the most recent set of matches. Maybe things would have turned out differently if these match uploads had set the world on fire, but I doubt it.
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Was the hiatus a flat line of viewing numbers or a sabbatical of talent?
 
FuzzyYellowBalls said:
It's fun for sure for him, but trust me, he is working hours upon hours each week editing and not working a real job or improving his career, it's not just a ho hum endeavor. You better love it if you put that much time into it. I'd say 30 ish hours each week not on the tennis court.
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You talking about Winston Du? 30 hours of video editing? I thought it's much easier these days. Last time I looked at it, you had to do a course in Final Cut HD or some sort of software, but now it looks like you can literally play the movie and click a button to edit out things as you're watching... almost like we used to record movies back in the day from TV and pausing during the commercials. I've also heard that there's AI software that will help automate this even further and you have just have to check and make sure nothing important was cut? Are you involved w/ video editing? The Real Tennis videos with music, intercut interviews, intercut commentary, different camera angels can definitely take time to put together.

He has his pre-interview and his post-interview (looks like he uses a selfie-stick) and then it seems like he's manually editing the points rather than use swing vision?
Not sure what he uses for the score board.

Anyway, it's fun to blame GSG for killing TennisTroll and now RT youtube channels :).
 
Roforot said:
You talking about Winston Du? 30 hours of video editing? I thought it's much easier these days. Last time I looked at it, you had to do a course in Final Cut HD or some sort of software, but now it looks like you can literally play the movie and click a button to edit out things as you're watching... almost like we used to record movies back in the day from TV and pausing during the commercials. I've also heard that there's AI software that will help automate this even further and you have just have to check and make sure nothing important was cut? Are you involved w/ video editing? The Real Tennis videos with music, intercut interviews, intercut commentary, different camera angels can definitely take time to put together.

He has his pre-interview and his post-interview (looks like he uses a selfie-stick) and then it seems like he's manually editing the points rather than use swing vision?
Not sure what he uses for the score board.

Anyway, it's fun to blame GSG for killing TennisTroll and now RT youtube channels :).
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, probably not 30 hours every week, but it's a lot of planning and editing for sure.

I've edited before, it's a pain in the butt, but I'd say for tennis swingvision is amazing, otherwise it's hours to edit things down.

Editing is like many things, you think it takes 1 our or will take 2 hours, and then you get in it and it just dragssssss.
 
GSG has learned tennis in his own way, not by taking lessons or watching pros, but by noticing what works in his sphere of players. It is in the tradition of Edison or Faraday.
 
FuzzyYellowBalls said:
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, probably not 30 hours every week, but it's a lot of planning and editing for sure.

I've edited before, it's a pain in the butt, but I'd say for tennis swingvision is amazing, otherwise it's hours to edit things down.

Editing is like many things, you think it takes 1 our or will take 2 hours, and then you get in it and it just dragssssss.
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USTA tournament is offering to give a recording of your matches in HD for $30.
Don't know if they're using swing vision, or editing it or the whole match raw!
I guess there's probably a waiver to allow recordings b/c otherwise you need your opponent to consent to it.

I'm in favor; I think ppl tend to be more generous with line calls and less apt to display boorish behavior if it's been recorded.
Perhaps this is something they've always done but it's the first time I've noticed it.
 
Roforot said:
USTA tournament is offering to give a recording of your matches in HD for $30.
Don't know if they're using swing vision, or editing it or the whole match raw!
I guess there's probably a waiver to allow recordings b/c otherwise you need your opponent to consent to it.

I'm in favor; I think ppl tend to be more generous with line calls and less apt to display boorish behavior if it's been recorded.
Perhaps this is something they've always done but it's the first time I've noticed it.
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Just to be legally nerdy about it, you don't need anyone's permission to record them playing tennis if they aren't pro, even then , it's iffy if the court is not a private home.
 
Curious said:
No, the opposite. He’s a very attacking player!!
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For some reason my youtube feed had a lot of MEP so I watched several of his matches. The only occasion I saw any attacking tennis was against Ian. MEP's usual loopy slice to the corners wasn't working as Ian was one of the few opponents possessing both a reliable smash and a good volley.

So MEP was forced to commit to his strokes, attempt passing shots and in doing so I saw glimmers of the player he could be. So the whole concept was non-aspirational and a celebration of unfulfilled potential. I did think MEP was a good sport though.
 
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Jono123 said:
For some reason my youtube feed had a lot of MEP so I watched a several of his matches. The only occasion I saw any attacking tennis was against Ian. MEP's usual loopy slice to the corners wasn't working as Ian was one of his few opponents possessing both a reliable smash and a good volley.

So he was forced to commit to his strokes, attempt passing shots and in doing so I saw glimmers of the player he could be. So the whole concept was non-aspirational and a celebration of unfulfilled potential. I did think MEP was a good sport though.
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What’s attacking tennis? Trying to hit powerful winners?
What about his deliberately short/deep balls, sharp angles, drop shots, lobs that force opponents to make mistakes or hit weak balls? That’s a genius alternative way of attacking imo.
 
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