MEP is back !!!!!

socallefty said:
What do you consider painful about playing against this style?
  • You have to hit a lot more shots
  • You have to generate your own pace
  • You have to hit many shots on the move/run
Isn‘t it going to make you play more tennis shots, hit powerful shots against someone who is unable to reciprocate and get more exercise? What is painful about this?
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everything is painful, just standing against a player equipped like that (technique, outfit and racquet :)) is painful
 
FuzzyYellowBalls said:
I remmber this now! I never connected the two, he does have the hit, then wait 1 second, then grunt, for no apparent reason since he isn't exerting himself physically at all.

hit.....wait......wait for it....wait.....uGHGGGHHHHHNNNG
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I never noticed that as so much else was vying for my attention.

I can only assume that BH had the accuracy of a Skud missile as we never witnessed the point of impact
 
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sureshs said:
Ian finally got his revenge in the last match
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MEP played 3 matches in 2 days.
Chris may have won the match but but sounds like he tore his calf. Amazing he could play on and hopefully he doesn't have to miss much time.
Before the match Ian and Ira were both saying they felt Chris had the fitness advantage!

But why would say Ian got his revenge? He had beaten MEP last time pretty handily. Or are you talking about Chris? Don't remember if Ian and Chris played?

BTW, I really appreciated Chris' humility and sportsmanship. Even worn down as he was he seemed genuine when he said something like we have to do this again.
 
Roforot said:
MEP played 3 matches in 2 days.
Chris may have won the match but but sounds like he tore his calf. Amazing he could play on and hopefully he doesn't have to miss much time.
Before the match Ian and Ira were both saying they felt Chris had the fitness advantage!

But why would say Ian got his revenge? He had beaten MEP last time pretty handily. Or are you talking about Chris? Don't remember if Ian and Chris played?

BTW, I really appreciated Chris' humility and sportsmanship. Even worn down as he was he seemed genuine when he said something like we have to do this again.
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Ian can say that in the end a player who has taken lessons and has good technique wins
 
Jono123 said:
He's never faced a 5.0 serve, I doubt he'd even get a racquet on it.
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Actually, I've faced a 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, 5.0, D1, D2, D3, and top 100 ATP serve
MEP's serve is harder to return than a 5.0 serve

MEP's serve is vicious, if you know what you're looking at.
Most clueless 3.5 rec clowns have no idea what they are looking at, which is why MEP broke the internet.
 
dannyslicer said:
Actually, I've faced a 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, 5.0, D1, D2, D3, and top 100 ATP serve
MEP's serve is harder to return than a 5.0 serve

MEP's serve is vicious, if you know what you're looking at.
Most clueless 3.5 rec clowns have no idea what they are looking at, which is why MEP broke the internet.
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Your observations are a little strange , but I've experienced such misguided observations from other inexperienced tennis players.

Or, maybe a 1% chance you are really good at returning real 5.0 serves but you are horrible at returning serves like GSG, lol.
 
Ben got ALL the triggers. lol.

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Tough match! Obviously once you encounter someone who has pro-quality groundstrokes and footwork, rec level pushing doesn’t work so well. He was able to adjust to all the awkward balls and still hit high quality shots, whereas I think rec. players break down in those situations. @GSG you’ve played a bunch of pretty strong rec. players who coach and have college experience. How much better was the actual ball quality from this opponent? It’s hard to judge from a camera. It didn’t seem like he hit much harder than some of the 4.5 guys you’ve faced but he was consistent and accurate.
 
Davis Cup had very solid ground game. Davis Cup is several levels above MEP so 6-0, 6-0 is expected. Davis Cup hits his groundstrokes more accurately, with more power, with more consistency and even with more variety as he used several excellent slices when necessary. Davis Cup's serve was also faster, placed better and more consistent. It's tough to win when the other player is superior in every aspect. A relative weakness of Davis Cup was his serve looks like it isn't as good as the rest of his game. It's a relative weakness though as his serve is still several levels higher than MEP. I once lost 6-0 6-0 to a current college player when I was young and playing a 5.0 USTA match. The guy was better than me in every aspect of the game. It happens.
 
Daniel Andrade said:
To me from the video it seems obvious that regardless of the recreational player you are, you need to be patient to beat this dude, and having good strokes help.
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It's interesting what people see. What I saw for the most part was....(Davis cup) "Did you hit me the ball? Oh, here's one, thank you. I'm now going to hit it where you aren't.....aaannnddd my point. So, did you hit me the ball? Ok, thank you. I'm now going to hit it were you aren't....annnddddd my point. So......" - no patience needed. Think about all the advice here about how to beat pushers. I didn't see much if any lobs or much "coming to net".

All one needs is technically proficient strokes mostly because MEP doesn't have that. That's not a denigration of MEP, btw. Technically proficient strokes means you can hit where you want, when you want.
 
mtommer said:
It's interesting what people see. What I saw for the most part was....(Davis cup) "Did you hit me the ball? Oh, here's one, thank you. I'm now going to hit it where you aren't.....aaannnddd my point. So, did you hit me the ball? Ok, thank you. I'm now going to hit it were you aren't....annnddddd my point. So......" - no patience needed. Think about all the advice here about how to beat pushers. I didn't see much if any lobs or much "coming to net".

All one needs is technically proficient strokes mostly because MEP doesn't have that. That's not a denigration of MEP, btw. Technically proficient strokes means you can hit where you want, when you want.
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I agree with you. My comment about patience was that the pro player didn't end the point in 1-2 strokes. At least from what I saw, it took some 4-5
 
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mtommer said:
It's interesting what people see. What I saw for the most part was....(Davis cup) "Did you hit me the ball? Oh, here's one, thank you. I'm now going to hit it where you aren't.....aaannnddd my point. So, did you hit me the ball? Ok, thank you. I'm now going to hit it were you aren't....annnddddd my point. So......" - no patience needed. Think about all the advice here about how to beat pushers. I didn't see much if any lobs or much "coming to net".

All one needs is technically proficient strokes mostly because MEP doesn't have that. That's not a denigration of MEP, btw. Technically proficient strokes means you can hit where you want, when you want.
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In other worlds, just be an ex Top-1200 ATP player and you can beat MEP.
 
travlerajm said:
In other worlds, just be an ex Top-1200 ATP player and you can beat MEP.
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I get your point but I would only counter that I would bet there are many tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands more, sufficiently proficient players in the world. How many people rotate in and out of even the 1200th spot that we've never seen or heard of? How many very good juniors or college players across many countries? Plus, how many "pro caliber" (ie threading the needle or tough shots) did Davis Cup actually hit? Most of them were fairly routine shots proficient players hit in practice hundreds of times a day...well assuming they practice everyday, lol.

Let me say it a different way. I didn't see a level from Davis Cup that would be impossible for most people to achieve if they put in the time and practice to do so. That isn't to say that they could play in the actual Davis Cup or do well in pro tennis but that's because pros can stress each other. That is pro competition at its heart. But, and again no denigration meant towards MEP, MEP doesn't come close to hitting proficient quality shots. He shouldn't stress anybody proficient at tennis. So, anybody proficient should readily be able to play him the same way Davis Cup player did.
 
mtommer said:
I get your point but I would only counter that I would bet there are many tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands more, sufficiently proficient players in the world. How many people rotate in and out of even the 1200th spot that we've never seen or heard of? How many very good juniors or college players across many countries? Plus, how many "pro caliber" (ie threading the needle or tough shots) did Davis Cup actually hit? Most of them were fairly routine shots proficient players hit in practice hundreds of times a day...well assuming they practice everyday, lol.

Let me say it a different way. I didn't see a level from Davis Cup that would be impossible for most people to achieve if they put in the time and practice to do so. That isn't to say that they could play in the actual Davis Cup or do well in pro tennis but that's because pros can stress each other. That is pro competition at its heart. But, and again no denigration meant towards MEP, MEP doesn't come close to hitting proficient quality shots. He shouldn't stress anybody proficient at tennis. So, anybody proficient should readily be able to play him the same way Davis Cup player did.
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Hold on…. just so we understand your argument and making sure you meant what you said above…

You are saying that it would be possible for most people to achieve the level displayed in the video by Davis Cup, who is an ex Top1200 ATP player?
 
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