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Halle or Queens!
Miami may lose Masters 1000 event.
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Halle or Queens!
marc45
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laughing at grass in March, makes no sense for the tour...hard to grass to clay to grass to hard...brilliant
if S. Florida wanted to keep it, it would have to do as suggested, start the clay season there...if the 1000 is gone, still put a clay event there for the sake of the growth of American tennis players on the surface
and though the novelty of har-tru is around, it probably should be red
if S. Florida wanted to keep it, it would have to do as suggested, start the clay season there...if the 1000 is gone, still put a clay event there for the sake of the growth of American tennis players on the surface
and though the novelty of har-tru is around, it probably should be red
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marc45
G.O.A.T.
do you hear a lot of players clamoring for the blisters and turned ankles of rebound ace?....we should probably think of them
marc45
G.O.A.T.
They're actually doing up the Hall of Fame tournament in Newport after Wimbledon...much needed upgrade...not a Masters to be, but nice to do for grass tennis
marc45
G.O.A.T.
and Djokovic fans wonder why...?
marc45
G.O.A.T.
because it's THE tournament for thousands of Americans in the midwestern part of the country that maybe can't afford to get to NYC, Miami, or Palm Springs...the city also has an incredible tennis history, and it's a good idea for a sport known for elitism to have one event which isn't in a international destination city or a resort
the event is huge, is only getting bigger (with the WTA), and will be there for a long long time..no reason it should not be there as it is incredibly well supported by fans and the business community
at one point there were rumors of Chicago, which would have been good too, but unlike KB, Cinci stepped up, made the improvements and thrives
it's hot, but I don't hear a lot of players complaining because they know how good the event has been
marc45
G.O.A.T.
please, LV has already lost an event..Agassi could come out of retirement and play mixed with his naked wife and that wouldn't work
Orlando has lost an event too, the training facility will be nice at least
marc45
G.O.A.T.
that's certainly possible...should just do it in Jan. then and have Oz in Feb. but that's not happening
marc45
G.O.A.T.
Miami wasn't suffering for years when it was bigger, better, and more exciting than IW...it's obviously changed since Ellison took over IW and the political situation in KB came to a head
marc45
G.O.A.T.
IW can freeze at night too, get hot and windy during the day...no humidity though
something to be said for the energy though at KB...fans have been far more electric there than IW
marc45
G.O.A.T.
Miami's demise means the Clay season will begin a week earlier.
It will then be tempting to replace Indian Wells with another clay masters.
Maybe convert Indian Wells to clay, considering RAFA is such good friends with Larry.
Nadal has been awful there
never has such an unthreatening figure threatened so many
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Well, RAFA has been doing something right, because Larry lets him sleep at the house.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Purple hairs Hawaiian was a favorite of mine. Maui Wowie!
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Orlando has lost multiple events, the U.S. Clay Court being only the most recent. Absolutely zero local fan base support every time. Disney was supposed to have the magic wand waving over that event played on their Wide World of Sports courts but they were lucky to get 2,000+ crowds even for the finals.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
yeah, I assume they know what they're doing with the training facility though, I sure as hell hope so...that idea has floated around forever too...need it to work...what do you think, it looks good
Mainad
Bionic Poster
At Indian Wells? It's been one of his most successful hardcourt tournaments: 3 titles (2007,2009,2013) and 1 other final (2011).
stringertom
Bionic Poster
I like it for training and hosting WC "tests" for the USTA protégés but it is stuck out in BFE, next to the airport. That will make it easy to come and go for the players but not ideal as a tournament venue.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Articulate.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
it is...does suffer from lack of comprehensive bloodlust though, I apologize for that
marc45
G.O.A.T.
it has, hasn't it?...I'll report that to the Nadal critic who thinks it needs to be turned into a clay court by Larry Ellison to help Rafa's success there
probably should just make sure the golf course is set up to the Spaniard's liking...that will keep him coming back whatever the surface
okdude1992
Hall of Fame
Not even sad. Miami is the worst of the masters by far in terms of facilities, and apparently money too.
Only 3 acceptable options IMO.
1.A grass Masters. People threw out Germany, and I like that since they got Hamburg relegated.
2.Dubai - they have tons of money and the tournament is at a good time before the AO.
3.Rio - they have a great facility in place, and South America deserves a big tournament.
Only 3 acceptable options IMO.
1.A grass Masters. People threw out Germany, and I like that since they got Hamburg relegated.
2.Dubai - they have tons of money and the tournament is at a good time before the AO.
3.Rio - they have a great facility in place, and South America deserves a big tournament.
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torpantennis
Legend
Dubai ain't before AO though...
okdude1992
Hall of Fame
Who says it has to stay in March? I was assuming if the venue changed so could the timing...
In my imaginary scenario the calendar would change a bit. I would also not mind Paris Masters being eliminated in exchange for one of the above options. It just seems unnecessary at the end of the year, and having RG as well as Monte Carlo in close proximity. And I'd like to see the WTF travel around more regularly
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okdude1992
Hall of Fame
Wow how dumb of me. I confused Dubai with Doha on the calendar
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
I agree, confusion is not an admirable quality.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Why not? They play each other in other masters events before FO and US open , so what does it matter?
Dolgopolov85
G.O.A.T.
Miami's demise means the Clay season will begin a week earlier.
It will then be tempting to replace Indian Wells with another clay masters.
Maybe convert Indian Wells to clay, considering RAFA is such good friends with Larry.
Is too late to match Fed's IW record, no?
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Yes, IW does freeze at night. I've been a few times.
KB probably did have more electricity, like a smaller version of US Open in that sense.
Red Rick
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It's mainly personal preference. I just like that most of the big guns haven't played each other in the tune-ups when Wimbledon. The shortness of the Grass season make it extra special and if you throw in a Masters 1000 I think you devalue the other tune ups. I think a Masters 1000 as a Wimbledon tune up wouldn't add much. If they add one I'd prefer it to be as a standalone tournament rather than a tune up, but that would hardly fit anywhere in the schedule.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
I personally think a masters event before W would be a great idea. Queens probably being the obvious one. If theres Cincy before the US ( same country ) then I see no reason why it wouldn't work with Queens.
Tennis_Hands
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marc45
G.O.A.T.
I don't disagree with any of that, except some people here do seem to think there could be a grass tourney then
I suppose IW could move back a week and cover a bigger chunk of March, that way there wouldn't be as big a gap between big events ((Oz-MC)...and the weather there could be even better
I actually wouldn't mind seeing not only WTF travel, though London does a great job, but why does one week have to have an event each year, during the season?....there could be more Montreal-Toronto situations where a couple cities go back and forth every other year with the week...and they don't necessarily have to be same country, but at least nearby with same surface
we are getting more grass tourneys now with the schedule change of Wimbledon..people are obsessed with a Masters, but there can just be more grass tourneys of any kind, including a WTF at one point...I'm telling you, don't discount Wimbledon's role of any grass tourney that gets a little too big for its britches, and they have power
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Only if Indian Wells is removed from the tour....
MasturB
Legend
It should go to Atlanta.
Atlanta's tennis community has more players than the rest of the USA combined. ALTA is bigger than USTA.
Atlanta instead gets a crappy 250 tournament. Atlantic Station is a beautiful facility, but if Atlanta gets Miami's tournament it needs to build a true tennis park.
I'm biased though, I've never gotten a chance to see Federer play in person. Miami is closest to me of all the big tourneys in USA (NY, IW, CIN), but Atlanta would be amazing cause it's in my home state and a few hour drive.
Atlanta's tennis community has more players than the rest of the USA combined. ALTA is bigger than USTA.
Atlanta instead gets a crappy 250 tournament. Atlantic Station is a beautiful facility, but if Atlanta gets Miami's tournament it needs to build a true tennis park.
I'm biased though, I've never gotten a chance to see Federer play in person. Miami is closest to me of all the big tourneys in USA (NY, IW, CIN), but Atlanta would be amazing cause it's in my home state and a few hour drive.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Love to see it in the West Coast like San Diego or L.A. myself. But I could see it in Arizona too! That is if it on the same time period March. But if they move it to Summer time; just after Wimbledon; Chicago or Minneapolis could be the new location just before Cincy tournament!
yes agree. kinda went downhill after they took away the finals five setter. also sony doesnt seem like a great sponsor either
zona would be interesting especially with some areas being higher altitude
marc45
G.O.A.T.
idk about the five-setters, they've all done that, but clearly they have not been able to get anywhere near the very good situation IW now has with Ellison's group
should be said, Bucholz and his people did great for tennis in KB, like Pasarell and his folks did in IW
Djokovic2011
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That would be a damn shame. 
StannisTheMannis
Hall of Fame
Maybe he's not playing well. Maybe he's just the least bad lol
Ellison basically just threw money at the tournament out of his own pocket and it seems to have worked. But i definitely tip my cap to him as money doesnt always work - he had a good plan and hired good people
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Larry probably.
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We put the clay everywhere, no?Miami's demise means the Clay season will begin a week earlier.
It will then be tempting to replace Indian Wells with another clay masters.
Maybe convert Indian Wells to clay, considering RAFA is such good friends with Larry.
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Dominic Thiem doesn't approuve.
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