Michael Schumacher needs to retire immediately

Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by NadalAgassi, May 8, 2011.

  1. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    Why the heck did he even come back. He is so far past his prime. He is getting destroyed by his own teammate who has never won a F1 race, and is now getting passed by slower cars during the race. Just retire already. He is actually tarnishing his own legacy if anything by continuing.
  2. rainingaces

    rainingaces Legend

    Jul 20, 2009
    He is not tarnishing being a seven times world champ he will always have that. The car he is in just is not up to the job im afraid.
  3. MarrratSafin

    MarrratSafin Hall of Fame

    Jan 6, 2009
    Still, Rosberg in the same car is beating him by a mile in almost every qualifying/race..
  4. forthegame

    forthegame Hall of Fame

    Nov 19, 2009
    Where did he finish today? No excuse really if Rosberg is finishing fifth.....
  5. bezs

    bezs G.O.A.T.

    Aug 7, 2009
    At least he gave me the chance to watch him race by unretiring
  6. Ash_Smith

    Ash_Smith Legend

    Jan 18, 2005
    A green and pleasant land
    Sadly Bezs you're missing the brilliance (said although I can't stand the man!), but you are still seeing the flaws - like turing in on Petrov when Petrov clearly had the corner!

  7. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    Schumacher was 12th today. As others said you cant blame the car when his 0 F1 wins teammate is smoking him, and did all last year too. If it werent for his reputation he wouldnt even be in the 4th best car which is about what he is in now. As if any of the top cars will ever want him again when Red Bull, McLaren, and Ferrari all have drivers twice as fast as him now. If Vettel or Alonso were his teammate right now he would finish better than now but might also suffer the epic humiliation of being lapped during some races by one of them. After all however much Rosberg is killing him in the same car the current best drivers in F1 would be doing much more.

    Dont get me wrong, I am a big Schumacher fan in the past and I think he is the best F1 driver ever. However his comeback is pointless and silly. He is way past his prime and it is sad to see him race as a shadow of his old self and as a bottom half driver in F1 really. He actually retired a bit too soon, he was still competitive when he retired and could have gone on another couple years. However his comeback was always doomed for failure.
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    PSNELKE Legend

    Dec 22, 2009
    Give him Vettel´s Red Bull, and you´ll see if he should retire..
    Man there´s such a gap between Red Bull and the Mercedes GP, even between RB and McLaren Mercedes, and Ferrari isn´t even able to compete for the win this year.

    Rosberg obviously feels the car better and got better used to it than Schumacher.
    He is not willing to give his best until he has a good car.
  9. Peters

    Peters Professional

    Jul 1, 2009
    That statement would only really work if the driver in the sister car was equally struggling to the same degree, but he's being consistently out-driven by a large margin, and continuously failing in his racecraft/decision-making at nearly every circuit. It's not just about the car.

    Although he will always have his championships, his recent failures will have an effect on how he is perceived to some degree. Up until 2 years ago the man was a legend, plain & simple. Unfortunately because of his ill-advised comeback, I feel there will always be a nagging postscript to his career.
  10. SempreSami

    SempreSami Hall of Fame

    Oct 20, 2007
    I'm grateful I got to watch him when he was at his absolute best during his duels with Hill, Hakkinen and Villeneuve.
  11. Bartelby

    Bartelby Talk Tennis Guru

    Nov 14, 2005
    Red Square, Moscow
    His team aren't competitive so perhaps he brings other benefits.
  12. West Coast Ace

    West Coast Ace G.O.A.T.

    Feb 11, 2005
    So Cal
    I bet you're on to something - e.g. sponsors/money.

    So far the OP - or those who agree with him - haven't named the aggrieved who is being deprived a ride.

    And to those using the 'don't blame the car - Rosberg is whooping him' angle, so? If they had the best cars, Rosberg would be #1 and he'd be #2, just like the young Vettel and older Webber. No shame in that.

    When it was announced, I thought it was a mistake too. But other than a few dubious moves (that could be attributed to having 2nd class equipment) he isn't embarrassing himself or his legacy.
  13. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    Rosberg has never won a F1 race. He wouldnt be #1 with any car. And if he were that good he would have gotten a drive with a top 3 car by now. After all while he is pretty young he has been in F1 quite awhile now. F1 teams arent stupid. Dont build him up into something he isnt just because he is apparently much faster than a washed up Schumacher right now.
  14. NadalAgassi

    NadalAgassi Guest

    I think that is a great idea (even though it will never happen). Schumacher needs to be put into a Red Bull with Vettel as his teammate for several years, then even his biggest defenders will have to shut up as it will become painfully apparent the HUGE gap between him and the elite drivers now. As I said the gap between him and Rosberg in the same car would just be quintrupled with a far superior driver to the winless Rosberg.
  15. Bobby Jr

    Bobby Jr Legend

    Jul 5, 2010
    He won basically every one of his 91-odd races in the best car with the team backing him completely over his team-mate, not disregarding the sly preferences given to him by way of tire tests for Bridgestone who, for many years, constructed their tires solely around the car the way it suited him - despite many other cars having to use the same tires.

    His adaptability has always been suspect and, when things aren't hooking up for him balance-wise, his performance curve tails off quicker than many. As you yourself said above he is getting his clock cleaned by a far less accomplished (but very talented) team-mate who, having come into the game more recently, has learned the important craft of adapting to the ever changing tire characteristics.

    If he was in his prime now no doubt he'd be a force to be reckoned with but he would not shine so well with the incredible talent that exists in F1 now. Much like tennis, there are subtle but noticeable generational changes in the level of competitors - usually for the better.

    That said, good on him for coming back. If he felt he either wanted to experience the thrill again or line his pockets with gold again then fine. He took a gamble coming back to F1 on the heels of a team which had just completely destroyed the competition - thinking he'd have a cake-walk return to show off his skills once again - but the gamble didn't pan out. He had to stay a few years for sponsor's sake and also so he didn't bail out looking like the prat everyone basically knew him to be anyway.
    Last edited: May 10, 2011
  16. SuperFly

    SuperFly Semi-Pro

    Sep 8, 2009

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