Midplus with GOAT blend of Power & Feel?

flume

New User
hard question =/
6.1 95?
Heavyish/wider beam for power, lots of options for feel in string patterns and versions.
 

KaiserW

Hall of Fame
Pro Staff Classic 4.2, what makes it unique is it has plenty of power but it is a controlled power if that makes any sense. Also it has great feel and precision. I think because of how stiff it is makes it that way. The funny thing is even though it is a very stiff frame it does not bother my arm at all. But I would never consider using poly in it.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Pass the can-o-worms!!!

I have to admit that the good ol' ProStaff 6.1 Classic strung with snug 17 ga. syn. gut was probably the best recipe I've ever enjoyed for ultra-nasty serve and volley singles or heavy doubles action. Nice pop, crisp feel, authority and touch around the net, good maneuverability with a balance at around 10 pts. HL, and PLENTY of gas with 12.8 oz. heft combined with significant backbone.

While feel is a big-time personal thing, I think that the idea of power can be more than just one thing, too. That stiff 'n hefty 6.1 Classic had plenty of zing, but it was easy to spray my strokes from the baseline with it. Now that I have softer, more mellow racquets with some similar weight and balance, I can swing harder and play with more power even though these racquets have less inherent power.
 

corners

Legend
Corners, why do YOU ask? :shock:
Because I want to know what YOU think. :) Generally, midpluses don't have the feel of mids. I'm looking for a midplus with great pop AND great feel. Seems tough to find, and so I'm asking the very well-educated TT forum-goers for their opinions.
 

corners

Legend
Pass the can-o-worms!!!
LOL!

I have to admit that the good ol' ProStaff 6.1 Classic strung with snug 17 ga. syn. gut was probably the best recipe I've ever enjoyed for ultra-nasty serve and volley singles or heavy doubles action. Nice pop, crisp feel, authority and touch around the net, good maneuverability with a balance at around 10 pts. HL, and PLENTY of gas with 12.8 oz. heft combined with significant backbone.

While feel is a big-time personal thing, I think that the idea of power can be more than just one thing, too. That stiff 'n hefty 6.1 Classic had plenty of zing, but it was easy to spray my strokes from the baseline with it. Now that I have softer, more mellow racquets with some similar weight and balance, I can swing harder and play with more power even though these racquets have less inherent power.
Thanks for your thoughts Fuzz! I know you were also a Rdti 80 man at one point. How does that frame rank in comparison to the Classic, C10 and X10?
 

corners

Legend
Pro Staff Classic 4.2, what makes it unique is it has plenty of power but it is a controlled power if that makes any sense. Also it has great feel and precision. I think because of how stiff it is makes it that way. The funny thing is even though it is a very stiff frame it does not bother my arm at all. But I would never consider using poly in it.
Interesting, thanks Kaiser. I've never really noticed the 4.2. Hard to even find anything about it - not in TW's Racquet Finder.
 

maxpotapov

Hall of Fame
OK I think I gave up searching for this old plush PT630 feeling. All those feel good frames are heavier and not really powerful anyway.
Yonex Ai 98 is my top model right now. I like how they paid attention to upper part of the stringbed, and from what people told me I'll be able to find the ball on this huge sweet zone, unlike Prince Port numb stringbed.
It feels flexy, stable and powerful enough, so I've been told.
 

KaiserW

Hall of Fame
Interesting, thanks Kaiser. I've never really noticed the 4.2. Hard to even find anything about it - not in TW's Racquet Finder.
Yeah the 6.1 was much more popular but I think the 4.2 was better. A tad lighter and stiffer with more pop.
 
I think when it comes to the power and feel combo, the Donnay Pro One 97 (16x19) is hard to beat.

The P1 has all the hallmarks of a traditional player's racquet: It looks like that (thin beam, classic PJ), feels like that (very responsive, long dwell time), plays like that (rock solid, accurate) BUT at the same time has an unmatched inherent power potential that even surpasses that of powerful tweeners like the PD.

For me, the P1 is one of the most rewarding racquets both in terms of feel and power, which make up for a truly great combination.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Pacific X Force Pro. Can generate pace. Touch shots are easy to make. Excellent directional control. Easy on the shoulder and elbow.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Pacific X Force Pro. Can generate pace. Touch shots are easy to make. Excellent directional control. Easy on the shoulder and elbow.
kind of low powered though

This is a tough one though because power = stiffness and stiffness <> feel.

I think the GSpeed MP has a pretty good blend IMO.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
LOL!


Thanks for your thoughts Fuzz! I know you were also a Rdti 80 man at one point. How does that frame rank in comparison to the Classic, C10 and X10?
I leaded the handles of my Ti 80's to get a little more comfortable HL balance and they came out at least as hefty as the 6.1 Classics. Actually I just checked one - 12.9 oz. with a Tourna Grip. Plenty of power with that degree of heft and also a boatload of spin - more than I'd get with my 6.1's and a LOT more than the C10's.

The Ti 80's were essentially softer alternatives to my 6.1's with at least as much power, but a little less control. It seems that a 98" Yonex plays significantly bigger than a 98" traditional oval shaped frame (wish the Ti 80 was a 93" or 95" frame). Easy to find the sweet spot, but a slightly less "connected" feeling. I had to keep these strung pretty tight to keep them more predictable.

Supreme soft racquet feel with the C10's along with solid power, but not all the control in the world. This frame isn't the most eager to churn out extra rpm's, so if I wanted to hit harder with it, I also needed to make a very deliberate effort to make angular contact with some speed to keep the ball down. I can honestly say though, that this racquet never bothered my arm.

The Orgainix 10's (O10= X10) are the lightest of my bunch, even after lead tuning. They give me a mildly more firm feel than the super soft C10's, but because they're slightly more lean than my C10's, they don't quite bludgeon the ball so much. I can better control my full swings with the O10's because there's a little less heft and inherent power in them, along with more access to spin. If I take a bigger rip at the ball, it's easier for me to keep it down on the court.

The O10 also has a bit more of the snappy, crisp feel that I loved with my 6.1 Classics. They're somewhat soft, but I think that the hoop flex in the C10's makes them extremely plush. The O10 may be more stiff through the hoop and flex more through the throat - hard to say for sure. I found a bundle of soft-racquet feel with the O10 only after I leaded mine up. Power and feel have been much improved with tuning, but this frame seems happy to hit hard or mellow. Those 6.1 Classics were skull crushing badness on a stick that also had a ton of feel compared to some other tree trunk frames I've sampled.

Hey, in case you can play a 4 5/8" grip, I'm happy to loan out a Ti 80, since these are only gathering dust right now. No pressure.
 

pistolero

Rookie
only midplus type frame i used was the prostaff 6.1 classic -- some 17 years and always thought it had good feel though that was probably because of its inherant balance and construction. good defensively as well as serve and volleying, which makes it a rarity. good control for a mp, however, power is low. put on some soft strings and probably makes for an ideal instructor's racquet.
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
The Fischer Pro Number One, back in the days of the ceramic layup, comes to mind. Those frames were significantly stiffer than the last Pro Ones and the current X-Force Pro, enough to make the ball scream, and with the right strings they have a beautiful feel.

My personal experience is with the red & silver one, but I think the black/white/red one that came after it (sorry; can't find a web page for it) was the same frame. (AFAIK the black/red right after that was the first of the much more flexible graphite-fiberglass ones, even though the graphics on the frame suggested they were still using ceramics.)
 

MikeHitsHard93

Hall of Fame
The organix 7 310 has some pretty good feel despite the stiffness rating. It's pretty smooth. It also packs a huge punch. I just didn't care for the head shape.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
kind of low powered though

This is a tough one though because power = stiffness and stiffness <> feel.

I think the GSpeed MP has a pretty good blend IMO.
It's weird, but I'm hitting harder with the X Force Pro than anything I have. It's just a little on the heavier side, so I usually only play a set with it, though. Maybe it's the string set that helps... IDK...:confused:
 

sp1derman

Semi-Pro
Not sure what the definition of midplus is anymore but I love the feel and power of my Wilson P.S. 6.1 BLX 95.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
It's weird, but I'm hitting harder with the X Force Pro than anything I have. It's just a little on the heavier side, so I usually only play a set with it, though. Maybe it's the string set that helps... IDK...:confused:
You've got quite a stable of racquets there! You need to hire your own private stringer :)
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I have to put in 2 gems - the Yonex RDIS 200. It has nice power and excellent feel. Also the PK 7G. It has both power and feel as well.

If the new POG 100 had a little more oomph to it, it would be the #1 of all them to me. Now if you like your sticks at 12 ounces or more and added some lead, then this racquet is indeed the GOAT for both traits, IMO.
 
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WhiteStripes

Semi-Pro
Another vote for the Fischer Pro 1s. While low-powered, I never felt they were underpowered. I could generate tons of pop with them just fine. And the control and buttery feel were sublime.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
I have to put in 2 gems - the Yonex RDIS 200. It has nice power and excellent feel. Also the PK 7G. It has both power and feel as well.

If the new PG 100 had a little more oomph to it, it would be the #1 of all them to me. Now if you like your sticks at 12 ounces or more and added some lead, then this racquet is indeed the GOAT for both traits, IMO.
What is the PG 100?
 

SublimeTennis

Professional
Which midplus has the greatest combination of power and feel, ever?
K Factor 95 with lead at 3 and 9. Any iteration of that racquet, whether the new 6.1 95, all the same specs. The 95 as I described feels like a 90 or 85PS, not quite of course, my goal was to get it to feel like the 85 in a 95 frame. Also RPM blast, man that weight comes through the RPM.

This site is COOL. I'm kind of a tennis nut, cool to share these things!
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
So now you do what, powerlifting? :)
/envious
a 15oz racket if it is weighted right is playable by most able bodied males.

I hit with a racket that weight and have one that is over 16OZ. As an out of shape 44 year old, I think anyone could hit with my racket for the most part.

And I have a hammer that is 26oz that I can and do swing. Its a bit tough on the shoulder but I can do 3 sets of 20 for the forehand, backhand, and serve, plus FH and BH slices. Sadly I think most guys are stronger than I am. Lost a ton of muscle mass after 40...
 
My vote(s) would be for:

1. Wilson BLX 95 16x18 ASIAN edition (modified to my preferred specs-see signature below) I STILL regret selling these.

2. Volkl C10 Pro (old yellow/black 'fishnet' edition)

BHBH
 

maxpotapov

Hall of Fame
a 15oz racket if it is weighted right is playable by most able bodied males.

I hit with a racket that weight and have one that is over 16OZ. As an out of shape 44 year old, I think anyone could hit with my racket for the most part.

And I have a hammer that is 26oz that I can and do swing. Its a bit tough on the shoulder but I can do 3 sets of 20 for the forehand, backhand, and serve, plus FH and BH slices. Sadly I think most guys are stronger than I am. Lost a ton of muscle mass after 40...
I like this idea of swinging calm and slow and letting the racquet crush the ball in the process.
Gotta do some strength training for my shoulder!
 
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