Discussion in 'Strings' started by mikeler, Oct 8, 2010.
The white has been said to be a bit firmer.
If I'm not mistaken, I think the White version actually plays a bit softer.
Ack! I was thinking of Gosen where the white version is stiffer than the natural color.
The white seems softer and does not bleed black ink all over the balls.
True , Genesis Thunderblast is a very good string.. thanks for the tip!
That could possibly be due to the white color...that it doesn't bleed black ink all over the balls, I mean. I tried to let it go, Mikeler, but I just couldn't lol.
I suspect the string material is white like many other nylon strings and they just added a black dye on top of it.
I was using Forten Sweet 17 as a cross for B5E mains and liked that. Then I found some Klip Legend gut 17 lying around and put that in as a cross and absolutely loved it! It's an expensive setup however so I'm wondering if Thunderblast would be a reasonable replacement.
Gut crosses are better but only slightly.
Sorry for another question regarding the same couple of strings Mikeler.
I was wondering if you had ever tried NXT Control in the cross. You said earlier you would prefer it to the Xcel crosses, but I was wondering if you had any personal experiences with it in your racquet. Also, if you have, what are some differences between how the string bed feels between having the NXT Control in the crosses and the Thunder Blast in the crosses.
I am still committed to stringing 3 separate frames up and playing each of them for an equal amount of time so I can see which of the 3 setups I prefer the most.
I thought I stated in your other thread that I had not tried NXT Control as a cross.
My mistake, I must have missed that.
Edit: I actually don't see you posting that. Have you tried Xcel as a cross before?
Ordered some Microfibre as I heard it is comparable to NXT and I like NXT. Or maybe it will be different, but just a great string as many people have experienced for their games. Can't wait to test...
I might have to actually give up on the NXT and Xcel because Genesis just informed me that as a college player I can receive 660 reels of the Thunder Blast for 65 dollars, which is absurdly cheap.
Yes I have. It was not as good as I was expecting.
Two completely different strings.
Can you make an order for me? Just kidding.
I have Microfiber 17 in my MW 200G re-issue racquet. It is a really, really nice but boring multi. The strings lock into each other and don't move. The texture is gummy. It's predictable and consistent. I'm tempted to switch it out early to try something with a crisper feel, but it plays so well that it would be a crime. I'll try Gamma Revelation 17 next to see if I can save some money. $12.50/set is a little steep for me.
It's definitely not a multi that snaps back.
I found a set of this in a old bag from back in my or my brothers' jr days.
Did you ever find any info on it?
I see that you did a play-test of Babolat origin. If you don't mind, I'd like to add my own two cents?
I'm currently demoing a Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 and it came strung with Origin. I was pleasantly surprised to find decent spin, power, and good control. Felt like I could take a big cut at the ball and it would stay in, but still hit some decent touch shots. Tension retention seems really good. Felt comfy, not harsh. The string seems like it has a mix of properties between a multi and a poly.
It doesn't fray since it is a monofilament, but I did notice that the white coating is starting to rub off where the strings touch on a second day of hitting. I also agree with your assessment that it moves a lot. I just gave up trying to straighten the strings.
It's sort of pricey, but I may try this string again. I'd still like to try the pure strike with a full bed of RPM Blast and see if I'd still prefer the control and spin of a poly in this frame.
It is an interesting string but like you said, too expensive for what you get out of it.
Discho Microfibre 17 @ 58 - 1st Night Out
Agree with Mikeler's feedback
Items that stood out:
Great ball pocketing and sound
Exceptional directional control and good depth control
High trajectory/launch - moderate to low spin
It reminded me of a higher quality and better performing version of Gosen Sheep or a more tame NXT Power with lower spin, but better defensively and directionally.
I will play with it tomorrow and this weekend to see how it performs after a few hours.
Impressive string on the first outing for the money - I would put it up there with the best of them. I would pick it over natural gut all day.
I've never tried the 17g but glad you are enjoying it so far.
Look at your review #9A.
Proof that I've tried too many strings! I thought I had only tried the Acura Control 17. Thanks for the correction.
And my agreement was to the 16 g post by Mikeler...should have noted that and sorry for the lack of "apples to apples" but I think folks get the point...good item to note though
Second time out with Discho Microfibre was as good as first - great feel and control.
String volleys well. I can get my serve in easily with the strings, but they lack a little spin and pop. I will take high first serve percentage over the pop and spin with less accuracy.
I have played doubles both times so it will be interesting to play with it in a singles match.
Dunlop Hexy Fiber
I hit over the weekend with a Wilson Juice Pro (16x20) strung with Hexy Fiber at 54 pounds full-bed on a constant pull machine.
I think Hexy might be one of (if not the) favorite multi I've hit with so far. I like that the feel isn't too muted and for a multi I was finding pretty good spin, although nothing compared to a hybrid with a smooth poly cross, let alone a full poly job (which I don't play with due to recent arm issues w/ stiff polys.) I noticed the spin most on serves where despite the 16x20 pattern in the Juice Pro (which is relatively dense in the center) I was still getting some good hop off the court, especially on my kickers. I noticed it less so on ground strokes, but part of that is just the Juice Pro hits a very penetrating ball to begin with. I did lost a few shots long, and rolling tight angles was a little tricky, but that's with a pretty hefty racquet. I imagine in a whippier frame, Hexy would play the angles very nicely.
Very pleasantly surprised by Hexy. I'd say it's better than many of the more expensive multis, especially NXT Tour/Power/Control/Whatever-they-call-it-now with better spin and to me better feel, although less powerful.
Tip-o-the-hat to another fine review/reco on the Hexy Fiber for Mr. Mikeler.
The durability was the big downside of the string for me. It is one of the best price for performance multis out there.
If you like Hexy Fiber, try Alpha Gut 2000. Look at the gauges/mms carefully as typically they are thicker mms to the gauges they quote.
I found Alpha to be soft and durable. I felt it performed better overall than Hexy, but was somewhat similar. Hexy was too mushy and powerful for me. Alpha 2000 was like Hexy without being mushy and too powerful.
I got decent spin from Alpha and good directional control. The volleys were great, but lacked power.
Please confirm that this was or was not the "Pro" or previous "Spin" version of this string.
Not either version.
I normally string Alpha gut 2000 18ga as my cross string. I find it goes well with everything.
In need of a new multi
Hope all is well. I need a recommendation for a multi. I usually play with alu power rough and xcel (hybrid), but had some elbow issues. Thus I am temporarily playing with a full bed of black babolat xcel @ 56lbs with no issues. I have to find an excuse for my recent slump, so I'm blaming my strings. I want to try something new. I heard about NRG2 but have no idea how good or bad it is. I usually hit with top spin. I am looking for playability, pop, some power and nice spin. Any recommendation is appreciated as well as recommended tension. I will string my Babolat Aeropro myself. Any recommendation from other members is also appreciated. Thanks to all!
Try using a less stiff polyester? :?
NRG2 16 is terrible for spin. If spin is what you seek, try Head RIP Control and Dunlop Hexy Fiber.
Thanks for the recommendation. I like spin, power and control, but most of all nice pop, playability. What tension should I use? It will be a full bed of multi. As mentioned, the xcel on my Aero Pro are @ 56. Thanks.
I'd go up higher around 60# if you are using a lockout.
X1 is another great option and is way better for spin than NRG. If you don't mind the price.
3rd session and some singles for Discho Microfibre
Still feels good and plays nice, but I was disappointed at the drop off in performance like I am with most strings. The control has gone down and I felt like the trajectory was less predictable and that I had to hit out and over the ball more to get it in the window (thus more errors long or into net).
Performance wasn't bad, but string movement, notching, and rocket balls seemed more prevalent (maybe it was me). Tension still feels good and to not have dropped but I don't have any quantitative measurements.
I switched to my other racquet in the same session that had NXT Power at about the same age and the Discho seemed better to me.
It really is a good string. I am going to try a higher tension. I am also going to try it as a cross with RIP Control or something in the mains.
Any Discho Microfibre fans out there with recommendations? Thanks for the help. I know this is a great string and about as good as it gets. I want to try to stick with it and make it work as it feels so perfect.
I think it would be a poor cross string, as the gummy texture would impede the travel of the mains. Discho has a string called Cellular that they bill as a very good cross string.
I don't love Microfibre as a cross. I have tried it with Iontec and O-Power (stiffer). It is great as a full bed replacement for Gut/Poly (it is my bad weather setup).
Now I did kind of like it as a main with a poly cross, but not for a long time, It got a little launchy for some reason.
Cellular is a good cross. It is really stretchy, but softens up poly nicely. I don;t think I would try it with a multi main, but RIP might be different.
You have to love the honesty of the guy who sells Discho. I also did not think Microfibre was the best as a cross. For the price and durability plus softness and playability, it still rules the roost for me as a full bed though.
What are some good multi options to cross with gut for excellent feel, good spin and good control?
The only gut/multi combo I've tried is gut/Genesis Thunder Blast. I'd stick with a stiffer multi in the crosses to mimic gut/poly.
Hello. I bought two Graphenes, both Speed Pro Ltd. I played with full poly (RPM Dual 17) and I want something other, something from both "worlds". I like control, durability and spin of this string, but it's really firm. I played with open pattern, but now I have it denser (18x20). I don't want to change the mains/polys, but only crosses with multi or soft poly if it's possible. I'm looking for some benefits of multis like more power, comfort and feel.
I want something with as good as possible tension maintenance and control. At the second place is durability and power (not overpowered). And of course it must be more comfortable than polys. I restring racquet approx. after 15 hours of play. I don't have problem with 17-15 (1,25-1,35) gauge at crosses. My price limit is around 10 dollars for set. As first I buy set and if it will be good I buy 660ft reel.
Head RIP Control looks good, but I read it's sometimes overpowered. Can you help me with choosing? Thanks
My game skills and style: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...00&postcount=1
Head Rip Control sounds like what you want, but I'd rather recommend getting a thinner gauge polyester. You will not magically get the same amount of spin when using a multi cross; the poly does not slide well on multi and this results in poor string snapback which decreases spin. Furthermore, the increased friction causes the multi to tear up and notch quite quickly, which leads to a fast dcrease in playability through the strings sticking to each other. A thinner polyester gives more power, is more comfortable and provides better touch, however without the drastic disadvantages of poly/multi.
At least this is my opinion based on my experiences with different hybrids.
Your link does not work. Try out my favorite hybrid Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge 17 mains with Genesis Thunder Blast white 16 crosses.
I understand, but I have worries about durability. When I read your post, it sounds like good idea. I can play with my actual string and maybe experiment more with tensions. As first, I wanted to try Babolat Origin, but it's expensive for everytime use. It's a poly, mono, but it's soft, durable and more powerful. But 200 euro for 660ft reel is too much. I bought RPM Dual for half price. And any soft poly for crosses? And the most important question - will it improve my game by my requirements? Thanks
Oh, I'm sorry. http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=500500 I can try it, thanks.
I thought polyamide, not polyester about Origin.
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