Mikeler's Multis
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Knife
Professional
Prince Premier Control used to be Prince Premier Attack, same string new name. Ranked 2a on M's list.
mikeler
Moderator
I'll change post #1 to reflect this change. I'm sure others have had the same question.
Knife
Professional
alidisperanza
Hall of Fame
mikeler
Moderator
I'm glad you are enjoying it as I have ice on my elbow. I'd be out of the game now without multis, so I'm not complaining too much.
mikeler
Moderator
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Icsa
Professional
Mike, can you share your thoughts on the differences between 16g and 15g of PPC? TWU shows 16 stiffer and less powerful, but shouldn't it be the other way around?!
The difference in reel price is huge - $150 to $69.
The 16g has great feel, long lifespan, decent spin and lots of power in my 16x18 6.1.
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JustTennis76
Hall of Fame
I would throw the stiffness numbers out the window when comparing the same string in different gauges. The differences should be minimal if any. I have used both 15L and 16 PPC as a cross and really could not tell the difference. The 15g may add 1 more gram overall weight compared to 16 and will last longer and is a great value. That's all.
mikeler
Moderator
Agreed, the two are very similar.
Solo Lee
Rookie
What tension should i start with prince premier control 16g in yonex ai98?
I usually used a soft 17g co poly at 50lbs. But need a break from poly.
So....
What is a good starting tension for prince premier control in 16g for me?
I havent played with a multifilament in a LONG time?
Thanks!
I usually used a soft 17g co poly at 50lbs. But need a break from poly.
So....
What is a good starting tension for prince premier control in 16g for me?
I havent played with a multifilament in a LONG time?
Thanks!
Muppet
Legend
Try 57 lbs. +/- 1 depending on the firmness of your racquet. Slightly higher tension for a stiffer racquet.
Considering only two characteristics Control and Power which multi is number 1, 2 &3?
What gauge and tension main/cross for Yonex DR 98 lite racquet should be set up for junior.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yonex_EZONE_DR_98_Lite/descpageRCYONEX-YDR98L.html
What gauge and tension main/cross for Yonex DR 98 lite racquet should be set up for junior.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yonex_EZONE_DR_98_Lite/descpageRCYONEX-YDR98L.html
mikeler
Moderator
Check out post #1 of this thread. Control and power are somewhat opposite although you'll hear people speak of "controlled power". That just means they found the string that works best for them.
Nothing has changed in 7 years?
Top 3 power multis for me:
1. Pro Supex Maxim Touch 17
2. Tecnifibre X1 Biphase 16
3. WeissCANNON "The Big Fantum" 16
mikeler
Moderator
I've been using full poly almost exclusively for over 3 years. #Shameless plug for MIkeler's Polys
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Any NEW muiltis out there now that is BETTER than Origin 17 G or X-1 biphase ??
What should starting ITF this year 13 y.o girl using now Xcel17 at 54lbs main/cross with Yonex 98 DR Lite(300g strung) who wants to try another setup for more control and durability? Xcel 17 lasts her less than 10h. She got 2 reels of Xcel17, and now she got 1 reel of Xcel16.
Muppet
Legend
Prince Topspin 15L w/Duraflex
ricki
Hall of Fame
Honestly. If she is playing "serious", I would think of pointing her slowly towards gut main/poly cross setup already. Girl at 13 yo is already "big enough"...
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
so guys,,,,,,, can you guys share your experience on if Origin or X-1 biphase ,,,,, which is more powerful string ?? what do you guys think ?
Muppet you probably spent more time with multi than anyone on this forum. You ranked the Prince Premier Control at the top of your list how would you compare it to the one you recommended Prince Topspin. Is it still good for 13 y.o meaning it is not too stiff?
Ricki, she is 13 to be in 4 months. She is 163cm/42,5kg. Everybody on this forum categorically disagree to use poly in a setup. I am not a tennis coach, and I am very recreational player. She is "serious", but she has no tennis coach as her younger sister. I have asked on this forum what setup she should play to compete on ITF without being injured. I will post her playing shortly.
Muppet
Legend
Mistaken identity. I think you're looking for Mikeler.
Topspin is a nylon synthetic gut with aramid (Duraflex) reinforcement, monofilament wraps, and an outer wrap of two strands to give the string texture, then coated. It's a good string and it comes in white and optic yellow. White is more muted. The 16g version which doesn't have duraflex has a reputation for fragility.
Sorry Muppet for identity messed up. Would you ranked this string higher and to be more appropriate for her than the PPC?
This is the 13 y.o(in a few more months) girl we are talking about:
mikeler
Moderator
There is no comparison between the two. PPC is light years better and lasts way longer.
How would you describe the Xcel comparing to PPC? And since you exclusively have been playing poly this days and in the past playing multies, what setup would you recommend for her?
mikeler
Moderator
Xcel is a nice string but much more expensive than PPC. I'm currently testing low tension poly at 30 pounds. It cleared my tennis elbow. That could be another option to try.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
man this court looks fast. and she hit big and flat too. must be very little time to hit the ball.
for 13 year old hybrid is perfect. all poly will cause arm deformities
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
Try Angell's Halo 1 string. It's a 1.20mm super elastic string that's very comfortable with tons of spin. It's a polyamide but monofilament similar to Origin I believe.
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
Dang, she would hang with or beat most 4.0 men around here.
mikeler
Moderator
That's too thin for a girl that hits a heavy ball like that IMHO.
mikeler
Moderator
She's good, no doubt about it.
Muppet
Legend
PPC is a multi w/3 monofilaments for its central core. From what I've read, it has better tension maintenance than Topspin. It's probably a bit softer since Topspin, which is a solid core. For better spin, I would choose Topspin. Either one are more comfortable than poly. For a high racquet speed and/or heavy racquet, poly would be spinnier but not longer lasting. Either PPC or Topspin are an excellent compromise.
edit: Listen to Mikeler.
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I will let her try low tension w Xcel. Now she plays 54lbs what she should try first?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Hang ?? she would kick their butts. ... 4.0 guys Suck Really BAD....................
mikeler
Moderator
I wrote low tension "poly" short for polyester. I would not go any lower in tension with Xcel since it is a nylon string.
Captain Ron
Professional
On a good day, I would get at least 1-2 points per set.
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Please propose the best setup for junior with gauges and tension in category of hybrid and straight string. Lets assume that we are looking for best control, comfort, tension maintenance, and power as most important where durability and spin are least important.
mikeler
Moderator
Sorry, I'm not sure I can help you out with a junior. I've got no experience there.
Surely you know more about it than most people on the forum. You test strings for more than 10 years. You had to read about it before, hadn't you?
mikeler
Moderator
My quandry is this. Your daughter has the racket head speed to be using polyester strings. I'm hesitant to recommend she switch at 13 because I'm concerned about potential arm issues with a child still growing. I'm currently very low tension poly and the comfort is great but I'm not a doctor and I don't know how that translates to a young teenager.
What kind of racket would be for multi non poly strings? There are constantly newbies strings coming out and some touch ups of older strings, and I wouldn't know about it. You don't have to propose or even recommend the setup you can just tell me what you heard? I am going to stick to Xcel unless someone finds out better solution for better control, comfort, tension maintenance, and power as most important where durability and spin are least important. It seems that Prince Premier Control is recommended a lot as being less expensive, but in Europe(I get strings from there) this string is not that cheap like $69 for reel of 15L, so if it is not better than Xcel no need to switch. Hansen gave me a lot of point about juniors, but I believe juniors have fun trying new setups because they get board playing same strings.
So what's your take on the setup for her? You've seen her playing.
