Mikeler's Multis

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  1. Icsa

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    Reels of PPC are usually more expensive than buying a single pack but sometimes they go in sale.

    I'm looking at Tennis Warehouse Europe and I'm seeing:
    Babolat Xcel 16 - $15.03 (before VAT)
    PPC 16 - $10.40
    PPC 16 in a bag - $2.58 <- This is a really good price!
     
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  2. Adisor

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    Is PPC better than Xcel in the categories I've mention above?
     
  3. Icsa

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    I didn't play with Xcel, so I can't compare.

    PPC will give you more control and durability. Adjust the tension lower for more power if needed. But I would start at the same tension that you are using in XCel, then make adjustments if necessary. If durability is still not good enough, try using string savers - Babolat Elastocross are made of Teflon and they will also make the strings slide easier, which should give you more spin.
     
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  4. Adisor

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    Thanks for the tip never heard of string savers before. I must try it. What gauge of PCC do you recommend the most?
     
  5. Icsa

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  6. Adisor

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    Icsa is there another soft string like PCC that you recommend even more?
     
  7. markwillplay

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    Hey Mikeler, I am a ppc man myself. I play mostly with prince tour 100 18x20 and sometimes my POG OS 4 stripe. I am looking into the soft poly thing for the POG. What poly are you using?. I was looking at the is speed cream. Might last longer than the ppc in the big stick.
     
  8. Solo Lee

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    Most similar multifilament to prince premeir control????
     
  9. Solo Lee

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    Try yonex poly tour pro and genesis black magic!!!!
    I also enjoy ppc
     
  10. mikeler

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    See my signature.
     
  11. leejayh

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    I have two juniors in my household. They moved from full bed Origin to TB Soft Mains and Origin Crosses (in a Blade), The other uses TB Soft Mains and Vanquish Multi in the crosses.

    Both love the shaped string in the Mains. Tour Bite Soft is ok at the right tension

    And when the multi or origin wears out, which is pretty quick, I restring it. So, about 12-15 hrs or every two to three weeks.

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  12. Adisor

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    What tension do they use?
     
  13. Adisor

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    Mikeler someone offer me a reel of Gamma Live Wire 1.27 and Gamma TNT2 1.27. Are they any better than Xcel?
     
  14. mikeler

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    I've never tried Live Wire. If you check out post #1 of this thread, you'll see I rated TNT2 dead last! Then again, I have a guy that I play with who tries strings I don't like because he always likes what I don't.
     
  15. djNEiGht

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    I've tried the XP version of the Live Wire string as well as TNT. I did not like TNT. Live Wire XP was nice but did not last very long. I liked Live Wire Pro but it is almost twice as much as XP
     
  16. Adisor

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    Have you tried Supex Pro Big Ace? Mareqnyc listed it as the best poly overall bearing in mind that comfort is most important.
     
  17. mikeler

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    That is one of the first polys I ever tried. Google Mikeler's Polys...
     
  18. Adisor

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    I see, so I should not waist my time on the Live Wire because Xcel is much better string.
     
  19. djNEiGht

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    You might like it. Guess go with price. Xcel was nice but when I tried it I think the tension was too low. I cut it out before it broke. Multi in general don't last as long
     
  20. Adisor

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    I got 50% of any Gamma reel I want unfortunately Gamma Professional is not in a reel. I know that Zo Verve is good, but it would not suite junior. Thx.
     
  21. Adisor

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    Other polys I've tried include Pro Supex Big Ace as a main string (used this for about a year) and Luxilon Big Banger Original which wrecked my arm.
     
  22. Adisor

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    Big Ace is no longer on your recommended strings?
     
  23. Muppet

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    I think above Mikeler was gently nudging you toward his poly thread. This is his multi thread. Common mistake.
     
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  24. Adisor

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    What's his setup w the Big Ace?
     
  25. Adisor

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    What color do you recommend Black or Natural? Is there any difference?
     
  26. Adisor

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    Mikeler, Prince Premier Control and Prince Premier Power(it used to be called Premier LT, but it improved on comfort according to its description) are both on sale for same price $5 each set. You ranked higher PPC, but if the PPP feels more comfortable, and the price is the same which one would be your pick? And also any difference in black or white color?
     
  27. Icsa

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    PPC black seems to slide better due to its coating. Otherwise they feel the same. I can't comment on durability since I just put black in one of my racquets. It dented quickly but it is possible that the black is making the dents more visible than in natural.
     
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    Icsa, they also have on sale Prince Premier Power for same price as PPC. Is PPP as good as PPC? What's your take on it?
     
  29. mikeler

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    My friend says PPC black is much more durable than natural. I don't think I've tried the black version.
     
  30. Adisor

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    Mikeler what about my previous question for you, Prince Premier Control and Prince Premier Power(it used to be called Premier LT, but it improved on comfort according to its description) are both on sale for same price $5 each set. You ranked higher PPC, but if the PPP feels more comfortable, and the price is the same which one would be your pick? And also any difference in black or white color?
     
  31. mikeler

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    Both are good. I had the PPP rated at 6.
     
  32. Adisor

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    Mikeler, I noticed a multi string from Discho called Dynapower. How do you compare it to Discho Microfibre? And also since you played a lot with Discho Iontec how would you compare it to Microfibre?
     
  33. mikeler

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    I never tried Dynapower. Iontec was nice the few times I played with it but it kept breaking on shanks.
     
  34. ByeByePoly

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    "The string is rough like Premier LT and both provide very good spin for a multi. "

    I am just now trying PPC and really like it. I was reading your review again and saw you called it rough. Did they change the string ... the PPC 16 natural seems very smooth.
     

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