mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
in my experience, if you don't shank, iontec is VERY durable as it resists notching quite well. if you shank, iontec seems to shear more readily than other polys.
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in my experience, if you don't shank, iontec is VERY durable as it resists notching quite well. if you shank, iontec seems to shear more readily than other polys.
mikeler
Moderator
The set I strung at 50# on my lockout lasted one long tiebreak set on Sunday and then I broke it on a shank in the warm up yesterday. So I restrung last night putting tubing in for all the mains at the top and the bottom mains on the outside. If that does not work, you may be getting a killer deal on a barely used reel of Iontec in the near future.
IceNineTX
Semi-Pro
The set I strung at 50# on my lockout lasted one long tiebreak set on Sunday and then I broke it on a shank in the warm up yesterday. So I restrung last night putting tubing in for all the mains at the top and the bottom mains on the outside. If that does not work, you may be getting a killer deal on a barely used reel of Iontec in the near future.
At this point, it's confirmed to not be a coincidence, I guess. Have you written the people at mamba? They need to push back to the manufacturer. We've made change before if you recall the Maxim Touch debacle.
Of course, a durable Iontec might just lose all the goodness of this version, too.
mikeler
Moderator
At this point, it's confirmed to not be a coincidence, I guess. Have you written the people at mamba? They need to push back to the manufacturer. We've made change before if you recall the Maxim Touch debacle.
Of course, a durable Iontec might just lose all the goodness of this version, too.
I've written twice and gotten no response.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
The set I strung at 50# on my lockout lasted one long tiebreak set on Sunday and then I broke it on a shank in the warm up yesterday. So I restrung last night putting tubing in for all the mains at the top and the bottom mains on the outside. If that does not work, you may be getting a killer deal on a barely used reel of Iontec in the near future.
i just strung up my Graphite 100 with Iontec 1.25. will keep you posted on its resistance to shank shears. this stick whips through the contact zone a bit quicker than my others so i have a tendency to shank more than usual on CC fh and bhs. the open 16/18 pattern of the Graphite 100 is already quite the string eater.
IceNineTX
Semi-Pro
I wrote Susan there and got a quick reply. She said she had seen the report, but it was not a common issue. She offered to replace my string to try again.
How many people have confirmed it breaks like this?
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
i've had other polys also shear on shanks, too, so i wouldn't say this is isolated to iontec in my case. one of my hitting partners who i string for also has sheared red code, but has sheared iontec a few more times than other strings.
mikeler
Moderator
Red Code is what Isner shanks with. I've had it happen with PolyStar Energy and Tecnifibre X-Code as well. Most polys I don't have the problem with. If your 1.25 does not have the durability you would like, a reel of 1.30mm would be right up your alley! I'll never be able to get rid of this reel so hopefully tubing works.
With all this shanking talk, I've neglected to talk about Wilson RipSpin. It has Tour XC like durability and I think it is 2nd overall to Iontec. If Iontec, doesn't work with a bunch of tubing, then I'll attempt to sell it on the auction site for nickels and go with RipSpin.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
when u're ready to unload the reel of Iontec 1.30, hit me up for sure.
i was already considering trying a thicker gauge string in the Graphite 100 and TC-95. the open pattern wears through strings so much quicker.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
i just strung up my Graphite 100 with Iontec 1.25. will keep you posted on its resistance to shank shears. this stick whips through the contact zone a bit quicker than my others so i have a tendency to shank more than usual on CC fh and bhs. the open 16/18 pattern of the Graphite 100 is already quite the string eater.
played tonight with my Iontec 1.25 strung Graphite 100 (50/51). no shearing on shanks. the stringbed felt amazing. looks like i just found the perfect string setup for this stick!
mikeler
Moderator
No, the perfect string is just a little bit thicker.
Never heard of that string.
No, the perfect string is just a little bit thicker.
Never heard of that string.
I love to play 1.20mm string on 16x18 prince frame(like your exo3 tour mp), they will last less time but they give so much sensibility
16x18 frames in my opinion can use 1.30,1.25 or 1.20mm, it depends if you want tension stability&durability&lowPower(1.30mm), sensibility&reactivity&power(1.20mm), or something in the middle(1.25mm)!
SCRAP IRON
Professional
I see some notching on your table!
mikeler
Moderator
Power Player
Bionic Poster
What gauge do you have?
In the Steam, my first session was awesome. Super crisp...massive spin and just everything was awesome. By hour 4-5 that changed.
That being said, I have a reel of 17 gauge. So if you decide you like the Ice, I will hook you up since I don't use it much anymore and really like polybreak.
Muppet
Legend
PP
I got a set of Polybreak 17. I won't be stringing it up until the warmer weather though. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for the advice.
Cheers!
Muppet
mikeler
Moderator
16g. You know the Steams and ESPs laugh at 17g!
mikeler
Moderator
Got to play 2 sets of doubles today with the Dunlop Ice. This string and X-Code are the closest to multis of any poly to date. The strings don't snap back just like a multi. It is very soft and feels great in the sweet spot. Spin is lacking compared to other polys. Not bad for so cheap. It would be a good transition string to introduce a non-poly user to poly
Still not digging Genesis True Grit. Most times out I end up putting it back in the bag. I've never been a huge fan of twisted strings for whatever reason.
The Wilson Ripspin 15 is lasting forever and a day. I started to notice some arm discomfort the last few games today, so it is time for the scissors. Since it has lasted so long, I bought a set of the 1.30mm today to see if that gives any better performance.
Unless CyberFlash wows me, then it will come down to Prince Tour XC and Wilson Ripspin for my long term string in this frame. I have the yellow version of the Tour XC to try soon and Power Player's 1.40mm version which I might pair with Ashaway Monogut ZX as a cross.
I'm down to 6 sets of strings at home. Nervousness is setting in...
Still not digging Genesis True Grit. Most times out I end up putting it back in the bag. I've never been a huge fan of twisted strings for whatever reason.
The Wilson Ripspin 15 is lasting forever and a day. I started to notice some arm discomfort the last few games today, so it is time for the scissors. Since it has lasted so long, I bought a set of the 1.30mm today to see if that gives any better performance.
Unless CyberFlash wows me, then it will come down to Prince Tour XC and Wilson Ripspin for my long term string in this frame. I have the yellow version of the Tour XC to try soon and Power Player's 1.40mm version which I might pair with Ashaway Monogut ZX as a cross.
I'm down to 6 sets of strings at home. Nervousness is setting in...
DustinW
Professional
I'm digging Ripspin right now also. What color Ripspin are you hitting? I've only played with the white. Maybe its all in my head, but black strings in general tend to have a softer feel to them. And I'm really enjoying the crisp responsive feel in the white 16 gauge version.
bertrevert
Legend
So not really ideal then for a SPIN frame where it's almost a mandatory requirement that the strings snap back... have you found a softer poly like these ones that do snap back by any chance?
Did the Ice and Xcode notch quickly and/or badly?
So do they have the same power as a multi as well?
mikeler
Moderator
I've only been buying the white Wilson strings. Genesis Thunder Blast is a multi but that one is actually softer in the white version. In general, I don't like to buy black strings because they usually bleed on the ball. That is why I bought another set of XC in yellow. If the yellow bleeds on the ball, it will just blend in.
At least in 15L, Ripspin is more crisp while XC is more rubbery. Ripspin is slicker so the strings stay in place better. As for True Grit, it just seems inconsistent to me. I don't trust that the ball will go where I'm aiming.
Ripspin is comfy enough and it snaps back well. I have not checked the notching on Ice yet. I'll look when I play tomorrow. Xcode broke after a few games on a shank so I don't know how it behaves over time. I would not say those 2 strings have quite the power of a multi but close.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Try the new Alu Power Feel. It is the BEST poly I used ever in history of tennis
mikeler
Moderator
Looks like it only comes in 18g. That won't last more than an hour in the ESPs.
SCRAP IRON
Professional
What is X-Code? I assume that it is made by Technifiber. I can't find it on Tennis Warehouse.
mikeler
Moderator
If memory serves me correct, I think the only 2 strings I've broken on shanks are Iontec and X-Code. I don't normally break strings right in the sweet spot. I typically break them on the 3rd, 4th or 5th main from the side about halfway up in the upper half of the string bed.
I think they are coming out with an updated version. It was in a sales bin at the local shop marked half off. When I picked up my set, there were probably 30 other sets in the bin. The next week when I went all the sets were gone.
Mikeler,
thanks so much for all the updates.Thats exactly where I break my strings everytime. Over the weekend I broke 3 of my 4 rebel 98 with the poly pro tour in 1,3 at 22kg :/ I´m really tempted by the tour 100 esp and it seems like wilson ripspin in 15L is great for durabillity and spin.
How would you compare the ripspin to the yptp and XP in terms of comfort, durability and spin ?
I´m playing with 22 kg in the rebel and if I would move to the esp would I have to go alot higher ?
thanks again
thanks so much for all the updates.Thats exactly where I break my strings everytime. Over the weekend I broke 3 of my 4 rebel 98 with the poly pro tour in 1,3 at 22kg :/ I´m really tempted by the tour 100 esp and it seems like wilson ripspin in 15L is great for durabillity and spin.
How would you compare the ripspin to the yptp and XP in terms of comfort, durability and spin ?
I´m playing with 22 kg in the rebel and if I would move to the esp would I have to go alot higher ?
thanks again
mikeler
Moderator
Comfort: Hard to judge in the ESP. XP is probably softest followed by yptp.
Durability: Ripspin is lasting forever. I cut out XP. YPTP did not last long at all.
Spin: Ripspin is the easy winner here. The other two were not especially spinny for polys.
mikeler
Moderator
IceNineTX
Semi-Pro
Wow, a 5 gauge string must be REALLY thick.
Dang it! I fat fingered it to 14L, then tried to correct myself.
Maybe 5L would actually last on this racquet.
mikeler
Moderator
These open patterns really depend more on the snap back effect of the strings I think than conventional patterns. The lower tension strings don't snap back nearly as effectively. Something just seems like it is missing at 50# for me but if you are worried about comfort, definitely start around 50# and work your way up.
stingstang
Professional
Have you tried MSV evo hex?
I'm absolutely loving this stuff so far, just hoping it holds it tension even sort of ok.
I'm absolutely loving this stuff so far, just hoping it holds it tension even sort of ok.
mikeler
Moderator
Check out post #1 for the polys I've tried to date. I have not gone the MSV route...yet.
50 pounds on traditional frames is like 60 on ESP frames. Take that into account while choosing string tension
I would advice you to not try it with less than 60lbs, maybe 55lbs if the string is at least 1.35mm.
SCRAP IRON
Professional
I guess that the tension loss is negligible. How is the feel on the touch shots and lobs?
mikeler
Moderator
I'll take another RacquetTune measurement today. Drop shots are good for a poly.
bertrevert
Legend
I'm gonna try the RipSpin as well. Bab Origin was hopeless in a SPIN frame, lost control then it snapped, just too soft.
bertrevert
Legend
THnaks Mikeler. Tried PPA, Origin, cheap syn gut - all get eaten in SPIN frame (Blade 98S)...
Are you able to compare Weiss Cannon Silverstring to RipSpin?
ANyway I need poly control and less power... although Hawk was a bit hard on the elbow my TE did actually recover while Hawk was in the frame, weird.
mikeler
Moderator
I've never tried Silverstring so I can't help you there.
mikeler
Moderator
Tension loss on RipSpin is 21.3%. Genesis True Grit is 21.4% with much less use. Dunlop Ice is at 17.8% after 2 sets of doubles and 2 sets of singles.
Speaking of Dunlop Ice, I used it last night for 2 sets of singles and then switched to True Grit for a practice 3rd set. I credit Dunlop for their packaging. They indicate power is fairly high and spin is average. That is exactly how the string played. Flat shots were really nice and the comfort is outstanding. Touch shots were not bad either. Great price too. The negatives are less spin than most polys and the strings move all over the place. Wait, I think I just gave my review!
I played well with the Ice. Once I switched to the True Grit, the errors started creeping into my game. The strings just are not predictable enough for me.
Matchball
Semi-Pro
Quite a mystery huh? It felt quite comfortable and control oriented, but in real matchplay conditions it gave me nothing. Almost doubled my unforced errors and at times it felt like straw !
mikeler
Moderator
So you had the same experience with Ice versus True Grit?
