mikeler
Moderator
It does seem to have a little more pop. I played well with it last night. I'll have to see how it performs off the ground against the hard flat hitters.
Mikeler's Polys
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It does seem to have a little more pop. I played well with it last night. I'll have to see how it performs off the ground against the hard flat hitters.
mikeler
Moderator
Cyclone Tour is good. Real good. I think I'll have to try a Cyclone Tour/Ripspin cross hybrid and a regular Cyclone/Ripspin cross hybrid. The Tour has heavy notching after 4 short sets of singles which was the issue I had with regular Cyclone. I hate Volkl multis but love their polys.
g4driver
Legend
Good to hear -
Maybe they will make Day Glow Orange 15
Gauge "mikeler edition" of Cyclone Tour
I got a reel of Iontec Black 1.20. I'm using Head Youtek Prestige IG Pro - 16/19 with 95 sq. in. head.
Can you advice me with what tension should I start for:
1. Iontec Black 1.20
2. Iontec Black 1.20/Thunderblast
3. WC Scorpion 1.22/Thunderblast (I found in pvaudio's thread, that he used 47/52 on his Dunlop racket)
I guess for 2 and 3 I can use the same tension.
Thanks in advance!
mikeler
Moderator
Good to hear -
Maybe they will make Day Glow Orange 15
Gauge "mikeler edition" of Cyclone Tour
We can only hope.
I agree with mikeler advised tensions. But to fully reply you, Hop, you should provide actual string and tension used, because some people like firm stringed,other ones softer ones with higher launch angle(me,for example).
For full iontec 1.20 you could go even to 50/47 mains/crosses.you would *probably* get a little more spin and, for sure, a softer stringbed.
For full iontec 1.20 you could go even to 50/47 mains/crosses.you would *probably* get a little more spin and, for sure, a softer stringbed.
mikeler
Moderator
Good point. I'm GOATing with Cyclone Tour. I think we have a new number 1.
tdhawks
Professional
Mikeler -
How would you compare Cyclone vs. Prince Tour XC?
With Cyclone being textured and XC smooth, you had good bite with both. How was the stiffness between the two? How about power?
I normally use a full bed of 17g poly strung tight at 58lbs in my APD. Also generally use stiffer strings like Zo Verve, Tour Bite, Focus Hex Soft and never had arm issues. Just tried Cyclone at 58lbs and it did a number on my elbow, but enjoyed the characteristics of the string. I'm dropping down to 55lbs to see if that helps, perhaps I'll have to try Cyclone Tour if that doesn't help.
Thanks.
How would you compare Cyclone vs. Prince Tour XC?
With Cyclone being textured and XC smooth, you had good bite with both. How was the stiffness between the two? How about power?
I normally use a full bed of 17g poly strung tight at 58lbs in my APD. Also generally use stiffer strings like Zo Verve, Tour Bite, Focus Hex Soft and never had arm issues. Just tried Cyclone at 58lbs and it did a number on my elbow, but enjoyed the characteristics of the string. I'm dropping down to 55lbs to see if that helps, perhaps I'll have to try Cyclone Tour if that doesn't help.
Thanks.
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mikeler
Moderator
Cyclone Tour seems softer than Cyclone. Sometimes certain strings just bug our own arms but others don't have issues. Cyclone Tour would be a good one to try if the lower tension still hurts.
I broke Cyclone 16 in about 4 hours. The 17 would probably not make it 3 hours. I would not bother with 17g unless you use a shaped 17g poly in the mains with a thicker smooth poly cross.
mikeler
Moderator
Volkl Cyclone Tour 1.30mm
Thanks to G4Driver for sending 2 sets of this string my way. This one is a shaped and twisted poly and was probably one of the easiest to string in that category. Still not as easy as a smooth poly though.
Tension it is strung: 60# on a lockout
Your regular string set up: Probably this string @ 60#
String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 16 (Prince Tour 100T ESP)
Power (or lack there of): Medium powered
Feel: Better than most polys
Tension maintenance: Forgot to measure it, sorry.
Price: $8.99/set
Overall comments and feedback: See below
General: I was expecting Cyclone Tour to be an improvement on Cyclone. It is an improvement in terms of durability. These strings seem totally different to a stringer but both play great on court.
Serve/Return of Serve: I hardly ever got broken during the first few outings with this string. My serve was just lethal especially the twist serve. Returns were consistently deep and I rarely missed.
Strokes: The first few outings, I just swung for the fences and everything seemed to find an area that was in the court and close to the lines. Lots of spin which was nice.
Volleys: Pretty good, but not the best.
Touch shots: My drop shots were very good. One of the best polys for droppers.
Softness: No arm issues to report.
Tension: 60# played great.
Durability: I cut this out around the 10 hour mark assuming it would break at any minute. It was only halfway notched so I think it would have lasted a few more hours. UPDATE: The 2nd time playing this I broke this after 8 sets of singles.
Movement: Some string movement but nothing too bad.
Color: I'm a fan of the anthracite color.
Conclusion: I played some of the best tennis of my life the first 3 matches with this string. After that, it was still good but I was back to my normal self. Next up is the red color of this string. If I play as well the first 3 times out again, I'll change to this string and restring every 3 matches. Not a big deal for me. Thanks again to G4Driver for allowing me to play test this for everyone.
Thanks to G4Driver for sending 2 sets of this string my way. This one is a shaped and twisted poly and was probably one of the easiest to string in that category. Still not as easy as a smooth poly though.
Tension it is strung: 60# on a lockout
Your regular string set up: Probably this string @ 60#
String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 16 (Prince Tour 100T ESP)
Power (or lack there of): Medium powered
Feel: Better than most polys
Tension maintenance: Forgot to measure it, sorry.
Price: $8.99/set
Overall comments and feedback: See below
General: I was expecting Cyclone Tour to be an improvement on Cyclone. It is an improvement in terms of durability. These strings seem totally different to a stringer but both play great on court.
Serve/Return of Serve: I hardly ever got broken during the first few outings with this string. My serve was just lethal especially the twist serve. Returns were consistently deep and I rarely missed.
Strokes: The first few outings, I just swung for the fences and everything seemed to find an area that was in the court and close to the lines. Lots of spin which was nice.
Volleys: Pretty good, but not the best.
Touch shots: My drop shots were very good. One of the best polys for droppers.
Softness: No arm issues to report.
Tension: 60# played great.
Durability: I cut this out around the 10 hour mark assuming it would break at any minute. It was only halfway notched so I think it would have lasted a few more hours. UPDATE: The 2nd time playing this I broke this after 8 sets of singles.
Movement: Some string movement but nothing too bad.
Color: I'm a fan of the anthracite color.
Conclusion: I played some of the best tennis of my life the first 3 matches with this string. After that, it was still good but I was back to my normal self. Next up is the red color of this string. If I play as well the first 3 times out again, I'll change to this string and restring every 3 matches. Not a big deal for me. Thanks again to G4Driver for allowing me to play test this for everyone.
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g4driver
Legend
Glad the Cyclone Tour worked out for you Mikeler.
Another setup I tried in my Steam 99S that worked great was basically just joke after watching Captain America: The Winter Soldier. :idea:
I was still waiting for my reel of red Cyclone Tour reel to come in so I tried Volkl V-Torque 16G Blue Mains / and Weiss Cannon Silverstring crosses (off of my reel) - and amazingly, this setup is very soft, with great feel for the Steam 99S.
The Red/White/Black Steam 99S coupled with bright blue mains, and silver crosses looks gimmicky, but I went 6-4, 6-1 (singles) then 6-0, 6-2, 6-1 in doubles yesterday with the "Capt America" setup. :smile: Seems I couldn't miss after that first warm up set in singles.
Another setup I tried in my Steam 99S that worked great was basically just joke after watching Captain America: The Winter Soldier. :idea:
I was still waiting for my reel of red Cyclone Tour reel to come in so I tried Volkl V-Torque 16G Blue Mains / and Weiss Cannon Silverstring crosses (off of my reel) - and amazingly, this setup is very soft, with great feel for the Steam 99S.
The Red/White/Black Steam 99S coupled with bright blue mains, and silver crosses looks gimmicky, but I went 6-4, 6-1 (singles) then 6-0, 6-2, 6-1 in doubles yesterday with the "Capt America" setup. :smile: Seems I couldn't miss after that first warm up set in singles.
mikeler
Moderator
I don't feel like it is too soft. Something like Solinco Tour Bite Soft was not so great in the frame but Cyclone Tour was really good. I'll be trying out the red version tomorrow night.
TennisManiac
Hall of Fame
Mikeler,
Have you ever played the Sonic Pro Edge? If so, what are your thoughts on this one?
Have you ever played the Sonic Pro Edge? If so, what are your thoughts on this one?
mikeler
Moderator
I have not tried that one yet, sorry.
THESEXPISTOL
Hall of Fame
You gotta try Cyber Blue. It's has soft as it gets with an explosive feedback...
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
THESEXPISTOL
Hall of Fame
Well, i've been playing it in 1.20mm.
It's the softest poly i've tried (i found it even for soft than PP Red Devil that everyone is raving about), amazing spin, decent tension maintaince...
I can't find any con honestly, since i'm not that much of a stringbreaker.
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
thanks. good to have another option in mind.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
I was thinking of trying it as a cross with gut in the mains. Sounds like an explosive setup :lol:
THESEXPISTOL
Hall of Fame
By explosive i don't mean powerful, i mean an explosive feedback... But yeah, it must be amazing with gut.
djNEiGht
Legend
...that does not mean I won't stray from time to time.
addiction must be fed
mikeler
Moderator
Those Goldenset strings sitting behind my desk at home that Fuji sent were whispering to me last night.
g4driver
Legend
I hit with the red version of Cyclone Tour last night. It does leave red marks on the ball but feels just like the anthracite version. So I think the anthracite will be my "go to" setup moving forward but that does not mean I won't stray from time to time.
If you use Red mains and Black crosses, you might be able to neutralize that Orange and Black motif.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
If you use Red mains and Black crosses, you might be able to neutralize that Orange and Black motif.
Black mains all the way!
g4driver
Legend
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mikeler
Moderator
If you use Red mains and Black crosses, you might be able to neutralize that Orange and Black motif.
Anthracite looks pretty sporty in my frames.
Just a short update on the Ripspin on claycourt in the esp 100. Breaking the first 10 strings in less than 1, 5 hours, no shanks, but just notching. Love the frame though, no shoulder problems at all, even practicing twice a day in the last week. If it continues this way, I´m done with my reel in a few weeks and need more frames than my current 3.
Not willing to give up the esp 100 as it works perfectly for me.
Not willing to give up the esp 100 as it works perfectly for me.
mikeler
Moderator
Yeah it is pretty crazy how comfortable the frame is. You could try Prince Tour XC 1.40mm in place of RipSpin. After that, your only option is Kevlar mains I'm afraid. You must be hitting the snot out of the ball!
mikeler
Moderator
Do you mean right next to the knot perhaps within less than an inch?
Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
Oh Yeah, discovered the knot sunk into the grommet
I tried Prince Tour XC at 58 lbs on my Tour 98 ESP. I can see why this string is designed for this type of racquet. After 3 hours it still doesn't move and shows no signs of wear. It has very good control, which is in its name. What surprised me most was the comfort. It is much softer than Proline X and it's almost as comfortable as my goto setup, Mono ZX/Marathon at 66 lbs. This string impresses me as the highest "quality" poly I've used to date. The tension maintenance, lack of string movement, durability, and comfort are all at the high end for a poly.
However, I was a bit disappointed in the spin production. I switched to my other racquet with my regular setup, and believe it or not, I get more spin with my ZX/Marathon hybrid. Maybe some of it has to do with me getting used to a new setup, but with Black Shark I noticed big spin production immediately.
So for me, I think the extra spin of a textured poly makes it more appealing than a smooth poly. I'll be trying some of the Volkyl polys from their value pack at some point. For now, the ZX/Marathon hybrid is still my overall favorite.
However, I was a bit disappointed in the spin production. I switched to my other racquet with my regular setup, and believe it or not, I get more spin with my ZX/Marathon hybrid. Maybe some of it has to do with me getting used to a new setup, but with Black Shark I noticed big spin production immediately.
So for me, I think the extra spin of a textured poly makes it more appealing than a smooth poly. I'll be trying some of the Volkyl polys from their value pack at some point. For now, the ZX/Marathon hybrid is still my overall favorite.
mikeler
Moderator
Try a textured poly main like B5E with XC crosses. It's really good.
mikeler
Moderator
I have not tried it.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
How do you feel about Babolat pro hurr feel ?? how does this play ?
mikeler
Moderator
I have not tried it.
For those who have had golfers or tennis elbow in the past and have healed it 100% what is best way to move back to a poly hybrid. Are there any very comfortable setups that you have tried. Currently using Discho Microfibre, but am wanting to try a poly hybrid that performs well and won't shock my arm.....want to see if I can go back to playing with some poly without injury.
tennis_nut
Rookie
The softest hybrid setup I've ever tried was Black Widow 17 mains and Forten Sweet crosses. A little low powered though.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Use the multifilament in the mains and a soft and smooth polyester in the crosses. Still soft, but with the playability advantages of polyester strings (spin and control).
Some polys I can recommend for the crosses (from softest to stiffest):
Pro's Pro Red Devil
Topspin Cyber Blue
Tourna Black Zone
Solinco Outlast
mikeler
Moderator
I've been trying out Cyclone mains with RipSpin crosses. It is a pretty nice setup. Yesterday I broke down and strung up Goldenset Snake Bite since it looks just like Cyclone Tour. Both also come in red and black...hmmm. I played 2 sets of singles with it today and I really like it.
mikeler
Moderator
I strung up Volkl Cyclone Tour 17 anthracite last night. I've never seen a poly stretch that much on the stringer! It stretched more than some multifilament strings. Stringing it was a breeze.
In other news, my first 2 outings with Golden Set Snake Bite were very positive. I can't tell if the black bleeds on the balls since I've played 2 black string opponents with it.
So I think my goto setup in this frame will come down to Cyclone Tour versus Snake Bite.
In other news, my first 2 outings with Golden Set Snake Bite were very positive. I can't tell if the black bleeds on the balls since I've played 2 black string opponents with it.
So I think my goto setup in this frame will come down to Cyclone Tour versus Snake Bite.
