Mikeler's Polys

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  1. mikeler

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    There are quite a few strings out there that are just copies of each other. It's quite possible they are the same string.
     
  2. Nostradamus

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    Did you say before that when weather gets hot and warm like in summer, you preferred Solinco Tourbite over tourbite soft ?? due to the fact tourbite is bit stiffer ? but is the power level about the same when it gets hot with tourbite compared to tourbite soft ?
     
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    You are thinking of Cyclone and Cyclone Tour. Cyclone bugs my arm in the cold but I like it better in hot weather.

    I do have Solinco Tour Bite in one of my frames right now but I think it is too stiff for my elbow to handle.
     
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    what do you think about the power level compared to tourbite soft ? do you still think tourbite soft has more power ? I would think spin potential is about the same between the two. I may prefer the tourbite regular in the hot summer time if power level is about the same.
     
  5. mikeler

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    Tour Bite Soft > Cyclone Tour > Cyclone for power.
     
  6. alpha215

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    @mikeler I am planning to hyrbid Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 as main & Quasi Gut Armor as cross for my Prince 100T & 97LS, what do you think about power/feel/spin and duration of this hybrid? Should it be better if I hybrid with Black Zone instead of Big Hitter Black 7?
     
  7. mikeler

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    I haven't used Black Zone or Quasi Gut Armor. Let us know how they play.
     
  8. Morch Us

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    I was referred to some "value" polys by a member. I am going to try them out and see whether I like any. Even if it does not allow me to play my best, I may settle with one, as long as it is "good enough". Will report back once I have some news.
     
  9. skydog

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    mikeler, just want to thank you for all your string reviews in both poly and multi. I have enjoyed reading them over the years and they are threads I frequently search through when it's time to look for a differerent string. Great stuff.

    I currently use a hybrid of PPC and Cyclone, and I am thinking about trying out some Solinco Hyper G in the mains. Have you had to opportunity to try out Hyper G since its release? I would like to know how it's compares to Cyclone and Cyclone Tour.
     
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    No I haven't tried Hyper G yet. Post #1 of both threads details most if not all of the strings that I've tried to date.
     
  11. Nostradamus

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    it seems like with Weather becoming warmer and humid, Tourbite soft is becoming Mushy and harder to control.....What should I do ?? should I go to regular tourbite ? back to Hyper G ? or some other string ?
     
  12. mikeler

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    Up the tension or change the string. I like the stiffer polys better in hot conditions but the softer polys are necessary for my arm in the cold.
     
  13. Nostradamus

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    I was thinking to change to Tourbite which is bit stiffer from what I heard. but isn't that less powerful than tourbite soft ? that is what I was afraid of.
     
  14. mikeler

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    String one frame with Tour Bite and one with Tour Bite Soft. That will be $40 please.
     
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    Hi Mikeler

    I tried Thunderblast natural with Focus Hex 1.18 black mains @48/53. I didn't want to pay the extra for B5E and I have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of 3-sided and 5-sided strings. It doesn't seem structurally sound to me.

    Anyways, the Thunderblast is a really nice string. I felt there was a lot of connection at impact, but at the same time it didn't have the same conventional type of feel that many other strings have. I've been looking for a black poly main for my signature frame with the right cross string to go with it. So far I've tried:

    Focus Hex black 1.18 / Thunderblast natural @48/53
    It felt very firm and controlled. When I connected well with the ball, I got a lot of power even with weather in the '50s

    Focus Hex black 1.18 / Gutex Ultra @46/51
    The string bed deflected enough, but it felt too crisp and the response was too quick

    Focus Hex Soft black 1.15 / OGSM 17 @49/52
    More elastic. It felt like it had good control the first time out, but when I added four grams to the racquet it felt springy and lacked control.

    Focus Hex Soft black 1.15 / Tunderblast natural @49/54
    Very good if you want a very controlled, muted setup. It might be a good choice for racquets that feel harsh or vibrate.

    The best one so far

    Black Force 1.14 / OGSM 17 @51/54 is beautiful in this racquet. My only reservation is that in the Aerogel 200 @54 full bed, the Black Force softens pretty quickly. I just strung this hybrid up yesterday and practiced with it today, so I'll have to see how it goes. It might be the Aerogel racquet that is the culprit.

    I also have two sets of Mosquito Bite black and one set of Mosquito Bite red to try. I like the Black Force setup so much that I may try Mosquito Black/Red to see how I like it.

    Thanks for pointing us toward Thunderblast Mikeler. That's a really interesting string. I have one half set left of it. I may use it in my Biomimetic 200 for the mains, as it's a little firmer than other multis and the mutedness may help the frame's crispness.
     
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  16. lucky44

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    Hi Muppet, Have you tried Volkl Cyclone in full bed, I was playing amazing tennis with it but my arm started hurting so switched to Volkl Cyclone Tour,which is good but no where near the Volkl Cyclone.With Volkl cyclone all the balls just landed in.
     
  17. Muppet

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    I strung up Cyclone 1.25 orange once @49 and tried it against a wall. I didn't like it at all in my 95" 18x20. It felt very soft, like I should go 2 or 3 lbs. higher. I read later that the string stiffens as it settles in, so perhaps I should have stuck with it for longer. Also, I gather that Cyclone's feel varies from color to color.
     
  18. mikeler

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    I didn't think Orange was very different from Black minus the black marks on the ball.
     
  19. Muppet

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    Surely, first hand experience trumps what I understand from what I've read.
     
  20. Stringers

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    Might as well bump this one too...
     
  21. Nostradamus

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    I finally did try the regular Tourbite. and Did NOT like it at all. In my opinion, it is totally different string than TBS. Just stiffer and much less feel, feels like paper or plastic. Little less power and less spin too to my surprise. Tourbite Soft is much much superior string.
     
  22. Ronaldo

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    Guess Orange is NOT the New Black, eh?
     
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  23. lucky44

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    FYI- Prince ESP 100T users, price on it has dropped to 79$.
     
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  26. mikeler

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    Hmm, this would indicate that this racket is almost out of production...
     
  27. lucky44

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    Mikeler, any chance you would try gut/poly hybrid with this racquet , I am not a string breaker and was wondering if I use a thick gauge of NG like Longevity or something similar and a smooth poly it may prove to be even better than Volkl Cyclone in full bed, Volkl Cyclone is a bit harsh on my arm and I used Gut/Poly for many years in my PK 7G. Any thoughts?
     
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    Gut/poly is not my favorite type of setup. I like poly/gut better but poly/multi is almost as good and much cheaper. The problem with my frame is the pattern is so open that I don't feel connected to the ball unless I put a stiff poly at high tension in it.
     
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  29. lucky44

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    Thanks, may be I will give it a try and report back.
     
  30. Ronaldo

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    Yes, Connectivity!!! Latest and greatest poly.
     
  31. mikeler

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    Mikeler's Connectivity. That has a nice ring to it when I make my own strings. :)
     
  32. scotus

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    I have tried it and it works great if you find a right poly cross.

    For comfort and playability, string gut in the mains as high as you'd like (e.g., 60-70 lbs) and then get a slick cross at a lower tension.

    If you like more power, go for something like Wilson Revolve. If you need to tame the power a lot, choose Isospeed Black Fire.

    These polys are so slick, they will prolong the life of your gut.

    Good luck.
     
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  33. newton296

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    I have been experimenting with a few different poly strings this summer. ( big hitter silver/blue ,BHB7 , genesis trionic , ytek square X, revolve, solinco Hyper g) and I found revolve to the best match for me. I have an all court style of play with plenty of power and spin on groundies. Revolve really pockets well on big swings while still remaining crisp and controlled with good comfort. plenty of spin if you take a good swing . surprisingly, I got more spin with revolve then most of the textured poly I tried except (BHB7) but it was pretty close and I far preferred the pocketing feel and consistent control of revolve overall. BHB7 control is a bit lacking and probably the only reason I don't use all the time. or as a full bed. I hybrid of BHB7 main and revolve cross sometimes cause it plays better and adds the control and tension maintenance BHB7 is missing.

    for reference I am a fast swinging 4.5 USTA level player with a semiwestern forehand and 2 hand backhand with some slice thrown in to change pace and mask my droppers. I like to move the ball around until I get a short ball then get to the net for the kill. I can't resist a drop shot or 2 but not a huge part of my game these days as my aggressive baseline play is pretty solid of late.

    I would also add that revolve is by far the best for volleys and touch shots full poly set up I have ever used. period . never had much luck with full poly on touch shots but wilson got something right with revolve . it even plays better as it ages because it gets a little more power and pocketing as it stretches out. only downside is I broke it faster then other poly but not much faster. I still got about 4 weeks out of it when it broke and it played better right up until it snapped. pretty good performance for 10$

    I need to try ALU Power 16L soon. Its used by so many pro players that is has got to be something special. most of them are not even sponsored from what I understand.
     
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  34. DustinW

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    It is something special... for a short while.
     
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    How would you compare Big Hitter Blue to Revolve?
     
  36. newton296

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    without knowing what kinda of game you got I would just be giving you my take . plus I only used the rough version for a couple of times because I just didn't get the "feel" I was going for with blue.

    that said. Revolve was crisper , had more spin and gave me that confident swing for the fences I just can't miss feel.

    blue was more comfortable and stretchy and felt solid on all shots but not as accurate or crisp or spinny as I would like and I started to realize I was losing confidence in my game cause I started to dial back my swing after missing a few shots long. now I think if I played with blue for awhile and upped the tension I could probably dial in the control.

    I think some guys like that comfortable softer solid feel from their strings while some guys like that crispy controlled spinny feel that lets you blast the ball as hard as you want and it will still drop in feel. I am for sure the latter. especially since switching to a semi western grip and 98 sq in racket with 16 mains.

    ps I have heard that ALU dies fast but don't most poly? revolve is one of a few exceptions. confirmed by tennis warehouse playtesters. wilson really got something right here. I play with the white 16G version in a 16X20 wilson K tour 95 and a yonex v core xi 98 for reference
     
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    I also tried cyclone and it had control and spin on par with revolve and even had a pretty good pocketing feel to it. but it also had a more mushy , ball stuck in string bed vague feel that takes a bit of getting to used to. anyway, that is the best way I can think of to describe it. I can see some guys liking it cause it did offer some pretty good spin and control for a 7$ poly and I will probably use what I got left in a backup racket.

    I think its important to keep in mind string will play different depending on temps, string pattern, racket flex , tension , swing speed , swing plane , head shape and grip. and of course tension. whew !! alot to consider here.

    taking into account all that I found revolve works best for me but I can see guys with rackets that are stiffer with open string patterns like the pure drives or juices would like even stiffer strings and guys with 18X20 would be looking at more powerful and softer strings to balance the rackets weakness and strengths. I think reviews are more helpful if you match you racket and play style to the person doing the review. thats why I like spencers reviews. he like similiar rackets to me . andy is pretty good too but he tends to like more powerful strings then me cause he hits a blade 18X20 stick and is trying to add power and spin. I never seem to agree with chris on anything for some reason. lol !
     
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  38. newton296

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    whew !
     
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    I thought Revolve was just repackaged Wilson RipSpin which I tried. If that is the case, then it is crisper than Cyclone for sure. Your game play sounds a lot like mine so I don't think it is surprising we like similar strings.
     
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    I also do like cyclone despite the somewhat vague feel because the spin is great and so is the control and for 7$ !! I can see alot of guys playing with it. I just played 4.5 guy today and won straight sets 62 64 playing the first set with revolve and the second with cyclone (backup racket) and I think cyclone might have a tad more control and for sure a bit softer. its really pretty nice for practice cause its pretty easy on the arm . when I say its soft on the arm that is really saying something cause and Im using regular cyclone 16g at 55lbs in a 16x20 . I hear the tour is much softer.


    some other cheap stings I like are genesis trionic. 7$ right now . BHB7 if you cross it with cyclone or something to add control. big hitter silver lacked ball grab but had decent control for 6$ ytex square X was pretty good.

    some day I will stop being so cheap and I try luxilon alu power spin. the main reason I don't is I am afraid I will like it and its so expensive.
     
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