Mikeler's Polys

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  1. djNEiGht

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    all the same..good to see a review. From your multi thread to this one, many of the strings you have reviewed and liked I have gravitated to.

    I'm fighting an arm issue though. I don't think it's TE/GE but maybe a pinched nerve. It is really frustrating. One day my game is good...then the next my arm feels disconnected on my FH side. I can still serve, volley, and BH. SMH.
     
  2. 392Hemi

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    @mikeler, thanks for the Firewire BOOST review. I just tried and really liked Firewire and am perhaps interested in the Firewire hybrid. What other round polys does the Neos-2 compare to? Is there anything distinctive about it or would any slick round poly give comparable results to the packaged hybrid?
     
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    @392Hemi
    I haven't tried Neos-2 but I've done smooth poly crosses a few times. The most common that I have done was IsoSpeed Baseline Spin and the Speed. They are cheap round polys but I found did a good job in a hybrid. I also used it as an option to cross with a more expensive poly to the players I've strung for. Some have really liked it and I have x3 players who have been doing the Rough Poly / Baseline hybrid for a couple years now. I've usually had requests for Diadem Solstice Power or T1 as the rough poly
     
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    I've never tried IsoSpeed Baseline Speed or Spin but have Firewire strung with an IsoSpeed Cream cross now and it feels / performs great. I was just wondering if the T1 Neos, or anything else might be more suited to the Firewire's sharp edges
     
  5. mikeler

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    I guess the closest comparison I can think of is a round version of Ytex Square-X. The next string I'm trying is the Tier One Neos 3.
     
  6. mikeler

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    Update: Broke a brand new string job of Firewire Boost on a shank today after 4 games. @TierOneSportsOfficial, I sent you an e-mail regarding the gauge you had sent to me with the trial set where I had no issues.
     
  7. Ronaldo

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    Ever try that Prince 115" racquet? Fewer shanks?
     
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  8. Adisor

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    Mikeler have you tried the Black Knight by Tier One?
     
  9. mikeler

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    I think Neos 3 is Black Knight. If that is correct, then I strung it up last night. I'm more curious about the Boost if it will last a whole match, so I'll probably test that again today. But the Knight shall have its day in court soon.
     
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    Waiting for your report. Thx!
     
  11. mikeler

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    Well, I got to test out the Black Knight aka Neos 3 today since the FireWire broke after less than a set. This time, it began unraveling in the middle of the string bed during the warm up and that is where it broke. @TierOneSportsOfficial, you must have sent me a different gauge than 16. This is just strange that the first set had great durability and the 16g I bought can't make it a set.

    Anyway, the Neos 3 kind of feels like a smoother version of Cyclone to me. It's pretty good for those who like smooth strings but I feel like there is more spin to be had when I use shaped strings.
     
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  12. Adisor

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    Tell me where would you place Pro Supex Big Ace on your list? You played with it for a year. How about Big Ace Micro, is it a better choice?
     
  13. mikeler

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    I believe Big Ace was one of the first polys I ever tried. Looking back, it was just OK. I never tried Micro.
     
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    Thanks to @TierOneSportsOfficial for offering a refund but as I told him offline, I want the set of strings I reviewed. I love them. It's either the 17g or 18g. I'm pretty sure it was the 17g and I'll update the review to 17g if that is the case.
     
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    Played another 2 sets with Black Knight tonight. @TierOneSportsOfficial is this a square string? I can't really tell what the shape is.

    It seems a little softer than Cyclone. That is one thing I like about many of the Tier One strings is how soft they are. It felt nice on volleys in the warm up but my opponent blasts the ball so I didn't get many opportunities up there in live battle.
     
  16. Adisor

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    Where would this string be on your list?
     
  17. mikeler

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    With the limited time I've used it, just outside the top 10.
     
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    I've been consulting with @TierOneSportsOfficial. I strung up a racket tonight with Firewire Boost and made several adjustments to my stringing machine and technique plus dropped the tension from 60 to 52. Gosh I hope this works! Apparently I'm the only one having this problem, so I wouldn't let it scare others off. The first time I used it, the strings lasted a long time so it is strange.
     
  19. Ronaldo

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    Ever try Gamma iO soft?
     
  20. mikeler

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    Not yet.
     
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    I got through 2 long sets tonight with the stringing technique and tension changes. Hopefully this does the trick and then I can switch to Firewire Boost permanently. Such a great feeling string, soft yet I'm so confident I know what the ball will do coming off the strings.
     
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    I've had trouble with Outlast 18 notching the crosses pre-maturely after just one service practice. It was in my signature racquet, 1-piece, @49 lbs. The frame is flexible and the crosses string bottom to top, per Dunlop's recommended pattern. If I tried it again I thought of trying 2-piece @49/47. The machine is a drop weight. Do you have any suggestions?
     
  23. mikeler

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    Yes, don't use 18g!
     
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    I got in another 2 sets with Firewire Boost today. Yesterday, I was moving slow but timing the ball well. Today, my movement was good (except those small adjustment steps) but I was framing everything. Temperatures in the upper 90s with no shade can make you play less than your best. Anyhoo, I think the breakage issues are now solved but I'm going to try and play tomorrow so stay tuned...
     
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    Not exactly the advice I was hoping for, as the 18g felt really good. But point well taken. I've tried the 17g(1.20) and it didn't notch and die as quickly. Thanks for your help.
     
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    The FireWire Boost has survived the weekend, so that is my new string. The Black Knight is pretty good too.
     
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  27. Dennylee60

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    Can you tell me what did you change to your string machine and stringing technique? I would like to give the string a try. I tried Firewire a while back and it never lasted past 4 hrs, so if there is something I can do to make the string last longer, I would be interested. Thanks.

    Denny

     
  28. msalamon

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    Poly Tour Air----thoughts? I like it as a smooth soft poly cross to go with klip natural gut mains
     
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    I loosened the pressure on both clamps and the tensioner. I tested the calibration on my machine and it was perfect. I dropped the tension from 60 to 52. I also clamped an inch away from the frame on every main.

    Now that the strings have lasted, I plan to try 60 pounds again on the next string job. Higher tensions just work better in my frame.
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  30. mikeler

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    Never heard of it.
     
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    Any reason given for the one-inch clamping on the mains?
     
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    The two times I broke Firewire on a shank, it was right next to the grommet of the main. So my thinking was not to expose the area near the grommet to extra stress. Sure the tension isn't perfect but its worth it if that is all it takes to get the strings to last.
     
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    At this point, I think I've had enough time with Black Knight to say we will have another new entry into the top 10. Stay tuned...
     
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    Have trouble breaking strings on or near knots. Are you using a brake or a boomerang?
     
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    I've only had issues with a few strings that I really like breaking on shanks. Iontec and Firewire come to mind. I string the crosses 50/50, so I don't use either (brake/boomerang). Since Firewire Boost only has Firewire in the mains, I don't worry about the cross strings.
     
  38. Ronaldo

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    Thanks
     
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    Wonder how the Firewire Boost would feel in a 16x19 pattern.
     
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    Update on FireWire Boost: it doesn't break prematurely in my racket at 52 pounds but it loses the mojo. I tried another set at 60 again and it broke on the 3rd point of the match yesterday. So I tried 56 pounds on the mains and 60 pounds on the crosses today. The magic is there at this tension and it lasted over 2 hours today. Fingers crossed that this works out...
     
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    I am still playtesting the Black Knight, it does not seem to be interested in breaking. Tonight I faced a red hot opponent in the first set with the Dark Knight and didn't fare well. So I brought Excalibur out (Firewire Boost) for the 2nd set. I ended up winning in a very long tiebreak set. Firewire at 56 pounds passed another durability test. Anything that can ease a tennis player's mind on court is worth using. I just don't feel like I'm going to make many unforced errors with the Boost combo.

    A brief kudos for @TierOneSportsOfficial. When you combine a college level player targeting strings for recreational players, you get some really unique stuff. Their strings may not be for everyone but I can say they seem to be unique from all the other ones I've tried. That may be great for some players and horrible for others. The pre-packaged sharp poly main hybrid with a smooth poly cross is brilliant IMHO.
     
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    I tried firewire not the hybrid not too long ago and I agree with comfort and massive spin potential. However you played at what i would consider a tension beyond high. I can see you have a frame that is very open pattern and perhaps have to go that amazingly high for control. When i played the string it was strung @52 and i normally play full poly from 48-52 in a TC100. I thought the power was way too high and response was pretty erratic . This was not a predictable low powered response which i look for. I had to change my strokes to emphasize constant heavy top spin to have a level of control. Not a good choice at all for a tempered response imho.
     
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    Correct, higher tensions in the open patterns work better for me. I've been having breakage problems at 60 pounds, so I too tried 52 pounds and the magic is gone in my racket at that tension. My most recent experiment is 56/60. No breakage yet after 2 long tiebreak sets and it has the same magical feel as 60#. More to come...
     
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    I can totally understand your experience. I personally have the same experience with the FireWire. You would probably like the Black Knight which offers a bit less spin potential but is excellent in the depth and directional control department. May I ask your approximate NTRP?
     
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    I got in another set with Firewire and a set with Black Knight yesterday. I'm partial to the spinnier Firewire but I could see an audience for Black Knight as well. Both great strings. If I ever break the Black Knight, I'll write a review.
     

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