Mixed Doubles Rating Effects

[Moon Shooter]

I am going to be playing on a 6.5 mixed doubles team this fall. I have also been trying to put together a 3.0 men's team for next year. Actually I may actually end up trying to get 2 teams together since we don't have a league in our area. I self rated at 3.0 and I have never played usta tennis before.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I understand that if I play 3 or more matches and my Mixed exclusive rating ends up being above 3.00 then I would be unable to play on a 3.0 men's team.

Since the ratings for men and women are completely separated how are they determining a men's and women's mixed rating?

Schmke did some analysis and based on that analysis it seems, to me, that male 3.49 teaming up with women's 2.70 will likely win against a female 3.49 and male 2.70. (schmke didn't draw this conclusion I am drawing it based on what he presented I am not sure if he would agree with my prediction) I suspect the gaps separating a male 2.7 and a male 3.49 is wider than the gap between a women's 2.7 and a women's 3.49.

Lets say my partner is a 3.01 female. And we play a 3.29 female and a 2.99 male. So they would have a combined rating of 3.15. If we barely beat them that would seem to mean I would have a performance rating of around 3.30.

If the only change from above was the opposing male had a rating of 2.70 then my performance rating would still be a 3.01 right?

Or do they try to adjust the ratings of either the male or female players to have them track the other genders rating before they do the averaging?

Any thoughts on this are appreciated.

 

[Moon Shooter]

Let me try to explain what I mean by bigger gaps between ratings for men and women.

I suspect that if a 2.55 rated male played a 2.55 rated female the score would be closer than if a 4.85 level male played a 4.85 level female. Say they played 100 games the 2.55 men versus 2.55 women I think would be closer to 50-50 then 100 games between 4.85 men and 4.85 women.

I think the same would hold true in doubles. A game between 2 2.55 men against 2 2.55 women would be closer than a doubles game where two 4.85 men play two 4.85 women. I think the men would win in the 4.85 cases but I don't know who would win in the 2.55 cases. Am I wrong on this?

If I have that right then it seems to me that the gap in strength between men's 2.55 and men's 4.85 is bigger than for the female side.

If the gap in strength is wider for each level of men then this would throw the ratings of mixed doubles as compared to same gender ratings.

 

[J B]

Don’t worry you will get destroyed on a new mixed team. Especially if the male is the Lower ranked player. I’ve played on two different ones and I wish there would be a different ranking for women playing men. Almost every 4.5 female was maybe a 4. So a 3.5 is a 3 on a good day. A 4.0 is a good 3.0 and an ok 3.5.
Dont worry about the rating just have fun and you’ll get to work on changing pace and generating your own

 

[Moon Shooter]

I'm not too worried about it, but I also don't want to get bumped based on faulty rating calculations. If tennis record is accurate at all I suspect the mixed doubles will typically involve me being paired up with a 3.2-ish women and we will be playing higher rated 3.4-ish women. So if the gap between the women is not actually as large as the ratings suggest then that would mean my mixed doubles rating will be somewhat inflated.

I was just wondering if anyone knew whether USTA takes any measures to make sure the mixed ratings don't distort someone's ability to play in the proper league.

 

[Doan]

I'm not too worried about it, but I also don't want to get bumped based on faulty rating calculations. If tennis record is accurate at all I suspect the mixed doubles will typically involve me being paired up with a 3.2-ish women and we will be playing higher rated 3.4-ish women. So if the gap between the women is not actually as large as the ratings suggest then that would mean my mixed doubles rating will be somewhat inflated.

I was just wondering if anyone knew whether USTA takes any measures to make sure the mixed ratings don't distort someone's ability to play in the proper league.

Check with your league coordinator - here in Mid Atlantic 6.5/7.5/8.6/9.5 combo don't count towards NTRP ratings.

 

[J B]

Check with your league coordinator - here in Mid Atlantic 6.5/7.5/8.6/9.5 combo don't count towards NTRP ratings.

I am pretty sure that is across the board. It does have a negative impact on your UTR I believe.