MLB 2019 Season: Shipping Up To Boston
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Chadalina
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Has the road team ever won every game of a 7 game World Series?
I think 5 set the record
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
That is really unusual. Replay usually gets it right.
Edit: Not reviewable. Delay was discussing protest.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Gotta love Martinez’s passion.
I just hope he’s not suspended for Game 7.
I just hope he’s not suspended for Game 7.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Why did they move the guy back to first? Should he not be at second? He has to go to second regardless of what happens at first.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
No. On runner's interference, the rule is that the other baserunner has to go back to original starting base. In this case, first base.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Game 5 bad balls/strikes calls filtering into bias tonight against the Nationals because Robles showed up Guessdale after ringing him up as a make good call for a bad call on a Cole pitch.
MLB is usually a little more professional officiating than NBA/NFL but this series has been bad.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Why? That is ridiculous, it had no effect here. Literally zero.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
They will break a record tonight.Has the road team ever won every game of a 7 game World Series?
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
I really want the Nationals to win this series. I don't even care as much about the bet, I just really dislike the Astros (sorry to the Astros fans here).
I mean, that is implied being an Athletics fan but yeah. I just don't like them.
I mean, that is implied being an Athletics fan but yeah. I just don't like them.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
This is over the top. Rendon hit the HR.
Let it go. Martinez looks silly here... Hopefully not suspended. Who makes that call? Leageue Office?
It would be a travesty if he miised Game 7.
Let it go. Martinez looks silly here... Hopefully not suspended. Who makes that call? Leageue Office?
It would be a travesty if he miised Game 7.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
I’m just glad Scherzer won’t be used so Raul won’t have a coronary / corbinary.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
"If the umpire declares the batter, batter-runner, or a runner out for interference, all other runners shall return to the last base that was in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference, unless otherwise provided by these rules."
Could the ump have awarded second base, if the first-base runner had touched second before the interference.
@stringertom
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
I love Strasburger's stuff.
Game 7 I want Scherzer. If he gets in trouble Strasburger (should be good for 1 inning) and then Sanchez.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
That’s where you’re dead wrong. He’s sticking up for his team and the umpires know they’ve been horrible this series. Then, after Martinez backs away, the blind doofus that blew tonight’s call ejects him. Let him go to the bench and chill instead of becoming the bigger story if Martinez does indeed gets a suspension.
The umpires are like cops with their blind allegiance to each other. This was still all about Robles showing up Guessdale for his outrageously bad makeup call in Game 5.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
After 102 and counting tonight, Strasburg would be the last one in. Extra innings?
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Corbinary mode engaged from Raul.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Just think it is silly. If he does not interfere and was out he is still on second."If the umpire declares the batter, batter-runner, or a runner out for interference, all other runners shall return to the last base that was in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference, unless otherwise provided by these rules."
Could the ump have awarded second base, if the first-base runner had touched second before the interference.
@stringertom
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Rendon with a 2-run double! 7-2.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Martinez has heart issues but nothing like a Raul corbinary!
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Rendon is such an absolute beast. And not a clown that admires everything he does. He’s the man
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
I have prayed for Corbin to have a great game. But he has not done it yet...
I have doubts about Scherzer in Game 7. 48 hours ago he could not put on a shirt or get out of bed. Now he is ready for Game 7??
For one desperate moment I entertained starting Corbin before I came to my senses.
ABC. Anybody But Corbin.
Even Scherzer with a broken neck is preferable.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Max is built for this. I expect a good game from himI have prayed for Corbin to have a great game. But he has not done it yet...
I have doubts about Scherzer in Game 7. 48 hours ago he could not put on a shirt or get out of bed. Now he is ready for Game 7??
For one desperate moment I entertained starting Corbin before I came to my senses.
ABC. Anybody But Corbin.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
0-6 and will need to win in relief tomorrow night to avoid taking that bagel home to Ms. Upton.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
The Astros are an easy team to dislike, from the GM on down.I wonder if Bregman taking the bat down to first has pissed off this Nationals team?
Soto returned the favor, so it was on their mind...
Personally, if I ever hit a World Series HR I'd celebrate by carrying the bat all the way around the bases.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Can’t believe he’s 1 and 4 in the playoffs. Doesn’t feel like it .
@MeatTornado question answered though Cole is the best pitcher on the team for one more gm til the Yankees swoop in with the benjamins.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Yep. Altuve and Cole are the only guys I like on their entire roster. I’ll give Reddick the nod for his service to Oakland.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
I think he’ll be an Angel if they’re willing to spend Trout-sized $$$.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Oh I’ll add Greinke to the mix I don’t have any beef with him. If he or max win it for their teams I’ll be happy for them.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Yankees don't spend "Stupid Money" like they used to. I'm not expecting to see Cole in pinstripes next year. It might happen, but I don't think they're the favorites.
Verlander's 1-4 record is also kinda deceiving. He's pitched pretty well, but his team hasn't been hitting. And one of those losses was on short rest (and on the road). He's pitching fine, just not MVP level god-like.
Verlander's 1-4 record is also kinda deceiving. He's pitched pretty well, but his team hasn't been hitting. And one of those losses was on short rest (and on the road). He's pitching fine, just not MVP level god-like.
NonP
Legend
As I like to remind y'all, the so-called home-court advantage is the biggest correlation-cum-causation fallacy in sports. (That is, teams with the advantage tend to win more not cuz they're playing at home but more likely cuz they're the better team to begin with.) That said I don't think anyone had expected these two gangs to steal every single road game going into the #7 crapshoot, apparently for the 1st time in NA league history. A highly unusual series indeed.
Kinda torn between Strasburg and Rendon for tonight's MVP but don't think I'm going out on a limb in declaring Steve's the best postseason outing since MadBum's '14 campaign (still the single greatest pitching performance I've seen). OTOH....
C'mon, a career 5.00+ ERA is poor for a future HoFer of his caliber no matter how you slice it. I don't mind cutting him some slack for this series but that actually makes the rest of his WS record look even worse.
One more thing:
Soto could still learn a lot from him. Yeah the wunderkind just hit another HR but he's been mostly whiffing since #2. Can't let the limited success go to your head quite yet.
Kinda torn between Strasburg and Rendon for tonight's MVP but don't think I'm going out on a limb in declaring Steve's the best postseason outing since MadBum's '14 campaign (still the single greatest pitching performance I've seen). OTOH....
C'mon, a career 5.00+ ERA is poor for a future HoFer of his caliber no matter how you slice it. I don't mind cutting him some slack for this series but that actually makes the rest of his WS record look even worse.
One more thing:
Soto could still learn a lot from him. Yeah the wunderkind just hit another HR but he's been mostly whiffing since #2. Can't let the limited success go to your head quite yet.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Stanton is making stupid money though. Not a yankee signing but they’re footing that bill. Good player but 300m good? No.
Verlander has been pretty bad in the WS. Don’t really think it’s a debate that Cole has had the far better postseason. Which was the question I was referring to. Not really a problem when you have both though. But Cole is the MVP if they win this series.
Hmm interesting. After tasting postseason glory I’m not sure if he’d give that up. The angels are pretty abysmal. I know a lot of guys take the money over the meaningful games so I guess we will see. If the Yankees are interested though I think Cole might take less to pitch there.
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Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Soto is so young so I think he will learn. The Astros players that do it are in their mid twenties or older.
Bregman is especially irritating.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
First time ever in all three of the playoff series sports that the visiting teams have won the first six games in a Bo7.
victorcruz
Hall of Fame
Lol at only road teams winning... I guess you can say the home team is due tomorrow. I would make sure Cole gets in before Verlander. I don't think he's any good in big moments.
Also, Rockets playing the Wizards tomorrow? Let's go Houston for both leagues.
Also, Rockets playing the Wizards tomorrow? Let's go Houston for both leagues.
T1000
Legend
What a clutch performance by Sandy StrasGOAT against the overrated and “classy” Mr. Upton. Blows my mind people call bumgarner the best postseason pitcher in baseball right now when he had one good series and StrasGOAT’s numbers are second only to Koufax. Also Trea Turner calling out that coward Joe Torre in the stands last night after the botched interference call was the second best moment in the World Series. Hoping for a gNats win tonight over the Houston zero tolerancestros
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Imagine the Angels with Trout-Cole-Ohtani and still not making the playoffs
Oh sure. I don't want to make it seem like the Yanks are a low budget or even mid tier squad. Their version of not spending means only being a top 5 payroll instead of number 1 by a mile.
Ever since George Steinbrenner died there has been a pretty big shift. In years past they would've signed both Machado and Harper, yet neither player even got an official offer last winter. They haven't gone after other top shelf free agents like Darvish, Arrieta, Corbin, etc. They let their own guy in Cano walk away because they didn't want to pay him. And that never used to happen.
And now they have to get ready to pay Judge, Sanchez and Torres.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
For that one series, Bumgardner had the most dominant performance. No question. IIRC, the guy won three games. Absolutely flawless and unhittable.
Strasburger's performance in this series is not on that level of perfection. First inning was a disaster and was lucky to escape with only two runs.
Second time this series he has been rocked in the opening inning.
hollywood9826
Hall of Fame
I have prayed for Corbin to have a great game. But he has not done it yet...
I have doubts about Scherzer in Game 7. 48 hours ago he could not put on a shirt or get out of bed. Now he is ready for Game 7??
For one desperate moment I entertained starting Corbin before I came to my senses.
ABC. Anybody But Corbin.
Even Scherzer with a broken neck is preferable.
But you cant deny the power of drugs. I'm sure every drug with a chance to fix his problems is coursing through his veins right now.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
A case can be made that Corbin with three days rest is better than a drugged-up Scherzer with a bad neck.
Start Corbin and hope for three innings. Pull Corbin immediately for Scherzer at the first signs of trouble.
A presumably healthy Scherzer really struggled in Game 1. Now he has a bad neck. What is Martinez thinking here?
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hollywood9826
Hall of Fame
In what could potentially be his last game as a National Strasburg made the adjustment so they could not read his pitches after the first inning. A rocky 4th or 5th cant remember but righted the ship. At 104 pitches he wont be showing up tonight so why not just let him stay in atleast until he let a guy get on base? Instead Alvarez gets another look at Doolittle and the Astros get more data to comb over for any Doolittle advantage they can get.
Stras has 4 years 100 mill left but will more than likely opt out. Both will get over 30 annual and should get close in on the 35 mark. Both are Scott Boras guys (as well as Rendon) as well which means they could be sitting around unsigned until March.
Boras is probably gonna negotiate 3/4 of a billion in contracts this winter.
hollywood9826
Hall of Fame
A case can be made that Corbin with three days rest is better than a drugged-up Scherzer with a bad neck.
Start Corbin and hope for three innings. Pull Corbin immediately for Scherzer at the first signs of trouble.
A presumably healthy Scherzer really struggled in Game 1. Now he has a bad neck. What is Martinez thinking here?
I know Corbin's first innings are shaky and maybe you would want him to start. But I think if Scherzer's back/neck is bad you would want him starting the game if no other reason than he wouldn't have to rush the warmup. If you start Corbin with a short leash you cant time when Max is ready to go. I wouldn't want him trying to get looses in the bullpen with runners on base and pitcher struggling. Start him, see what hes got and go from there.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
It is a chicken and egg. Astros have won 107 and are awarded home field and are the better team... Both teams have the same record since May.
Even then, everyone would agree that the Astros have more depth and Nationals are somewhat overachieving.
Agree that MadBum's was the most dominant single series performance. Absolutely untouchable. No pitcher comes close to that type of domination in this series.
Verlander, Strausburger, Cole and Scherzer have all been rocked at various times... Credit to Cole for bouncing back to his flawless ways in Game 5.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
LOL at rating MadBum and/or Koufax GOATs of the postseason when there is a dude who SA Smith would have called “a bad man” if he had covered him in his day. I’ll give you stat lines and then you can blush in your recency bias:
2 WS MVPs, 2 chips
Rebounded from losing his first postseason start to a 19x-WS franchise to beat them in Games 5 and 7.
Won Games 1, 4 and 7 in his next WS, all complete games with a combined ERA of 1.00. In Game 7, he tossed a three-hitter AND hit a 3-run HR.
Won Games 1 and 4 in the WS the next year, outdueling a 30-game winning SP. Struck out 27 in those 18 innings. He lost Game 7 on a misplayed fly ball by his usually reliable CF but finished the Series 2-1 with a 1.67 ERA and 35 Ks.
Guess who that bad man is and then wish him recovery from pancreatic cancer he is battling right now at age 83.
2 WS MVPs, 2 chips
Rebounded from losing his first postseason start to a 19x-WS franchise to beat them in Games 5 and 7.
Won Games 1, 4 and 7 in his next WS, all complete games with a combined ERA of 1.00. In Game 7, he tossed a three-hitter AND hit a 3-run HR.
Won Games 1 and 4 in the WS the next year, outdueling a 30-game winning SP. Struck out 27 in those 18 innings. He lost Game 7 on a misplayed fly ball by his usually reliable CF but finished the Series 2-1 with a 1.67 ERA and 35 Ks.
Guess who that bad man is and then wish him recovery from pancreatic cancer he is battling right now at age 83.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
The Nationals have too much history to overcome.
1) Road team has never won all seven games. From over a thousand series played in 3 major spors.
2) Nationals already 5-0 in elimination games. 6-0 would be close to a MLB record?
3) The Astros just have more depth. Crowd will be insanely loud.
4) Suzuki and Scherzer battling injuries.
That said, the Nationals appear to be very loose and having fun.
Astros are confident as they have experience winning a seventh game WS in 2017. But they might be feeling more pressure than the underdogs.
1) Road team has never won all seven games. From over a thousand series played in 3 major spors.
2) Nationals already 5-0 in elimination games. 6-0 would be close to a MLB record?
3) The Astros just have more depth. Crowd will be insanely loud.
4) Suzuki and Scherzer battling injuries.
That said, the Nationals appear to be very loose and having fun.
Astros are confident as they have experience winning a seventh game WS in 2017. But they might be feeling more pressure than the underdogs.
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hollywood9826
Hall of Fame
Probably Bob Gibson that guy was beast.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
What was the makeup call regarding? Was it regarding National catcher Gomes standing up too soon?
At first I thought umpire Barksdale should be banned forever for not calling a third strike in the sixth because the catcher Gomes prematurely celebrated. Dumb reason. But apparently ump says the catcher stood up too fast and blocked his view.
In the fourth , another non call third strike hurt the Nationals as Correa homered.
Both calls went against Nationals. Where was Barkscale make up call?
Will have to check the replay. But Catcher does not look to be blocking his view.
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