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Mac33

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“Regenerative Times” concludes: “We are particularly concerned that a single patty of Impossible burger very likely contains a clinically active level of an estrogen booster designed for post-menopausal women.”

But even for post-menopausal women, this much estrogen regularly is problematic.

The Impossible Whopper has 44 mg of estrogen, and a regular Whopper has 2.5 ng of estrogen. Now, let me refresh your metric system. There are 1 million nanograms (ng) in one milligram (mg). That means an Impossible Whopper has 18 million times as much estrogen as a regular whopper, according to Tri-State Livestock News.

Forty-four milligrams of estrogen! By comparison, an entire month of estrogen tablets for transsexuals transitioning from male to female is 60 mg, and a year or so of that hormone regimen causes them to grow breasts, the penis and testicles to shrivel, and makes them infertile. So, in reality, this is a depopulation burger.

Just six glasses of soy milk per day provides enough estrogen for a man to grow boobies. That’s the equivalent of eating four Impossible Whoppers per day. You would have to eat 880 pounds of beef from an implanted steer to equal the amount of estrogen in one birth control pill.

The Impossible Whopper patty is made from 24 ingredients. The most important ingredient is soy protein. The Whopper patty has just one ingredient: beef.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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The Impossible Whopper patty is made from 24 ingredients. The most important ingredient is soy protein. The Whopper patty has just one ingredient: beef.

Beef, only 1 ingredient? Guess again.

 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
The Whopper patty has just one ingredient: beef.

But what part of the cow is that one ingredient coming from? The expensive part? Or is it the stuff left over after the good stuff has been cut? What did they have to do to treat the beef to make it edible and not pathogenic? What kind of cow? How was it raised?

Note that I'm not advocating for any particular diet, just that people dig beyond the surface.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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Ingredients in Processed Meat Products
Elizabeth Boyle, Ph.D.
Department of Animal Sciences & Industry
Kansas State University
March 1995​

More than 200 kinds of sausages, luncheon meats, hams and canned meats are available to consumers. The use of nonmeat ingredients, or additives, provides the meat industry with the flexibility needed for the development of a wide diversity of products. All processed meat products have an ingredient statement on the product label. The ingredients are listed in order of predominance so that the ingredient present in the greatest quantity is listed first while the ingredient present in the smallest amount is last.

A typical ingredient statement might list "beef, pork, water, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, salt, dextrose, corn syrup, hydrolyzed milk protein, sodium phosphate, natural spices, smoke flavoring, sodium erythorbate, sodium nitrite." Each additive has specific functions in the product.

Water is added to many products for several reasons. Some products would be dry and
unpalatable without adding water. Using water improves tenderness and juiciness, and it serves as a processing aid when the product is made. The amount of water that may be used in a product is regulated by the government.

Some products may contain extenders and binders such as vegetable and milk proteins, nonfat dry milk, dried whey and cereal flours. These ingredients function to hold the
product together, and to improve flavor, texture and cooking yield.

In general, processed meat products may not contain more than 3.5 percent extenders or binders unless it is labeled as an imitation product.

Salt is used as a seasoning and a preservative, plus it functions to bind a product together. Many different spices are used to give meat products distinctive flavors. Red, white and black pepper, mustard, garlic, allspice and cinnamon are among the spices most commonly used in sausages. Liquid smoke is sometimes added to meat products to provide a smoky flavor and aroma.

Sweeteners such as dextrose and corn syrup are also used to enhance flavor. The addition of sugars or sweeteners to a product will also increase browning of meat during cooking.

Phosphates are used to enhance juiciness and texture, and to help prevent fat from
becoming rancid in products such as ham, bacon and cooked sausages. The amount of phosphate that can be used in meat products is limited to a maximum of 0.5 percent. That means that no more than 8 ounces of phosphate can be used in 100 pounds of finished product.

Sodium erythorbate is used to improve and maintain the color of processed meats.
Ascorbic acid, also known as vitamin C, sodium ascorbate and erythorbic acid are also used for this purpose.

Sodium nitrite contributes to the characteristic flavor and color of cured meats, helps to prevent rancidity and serves to inhibit the growth of some microorganisms in processed meat products.

By using nonmeat ingredients in processed meat products, consumers are provided with a large selection of meat products.
 

Rubens

Hall of Fame
So now every man who wants to become a woman can do it without a doctor!
Obesity is just a minor side effect.
 

Rubens

Hall of Fame
Just train in MMA, BJJ, grappling, and boxing; obesity goes out the window.

I did. Now I look like this.
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stringertom

Bionic Poster
The reel trooth haz bin expozed...the seacrit two Sabooshs’ impossibly big mantatas and Hiz impossibly beautiful game iz a steddy dyeit uv Impossible Whoppers.
 

megamind

Legend
Just offering a different perspective:


^ this study seems to say that estrogen is ok for men
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Prefer the taste of the Beyond Burger -- which contains no soy
Not yet tried it but am tempted to do so. Beyond Burgers contain pea protein rather than the soy protein found in Impossible Burgers. Little or no phytoestrogens in the BB. And many consider the amino acid profile of pea protein to be superior (more balanced or complete) than the profile for soy protein.

Pea protein is a little bit weak in the amino acid, methionine, but fairly robust in its content of the other 8 essential amino acids. OTOH, soy protein has relatively low levels of leucine, isoleucine, methionine, and lysine (particularly when compared to whey or egg protein).

My own no-beef, no-soy alternatives:

GardenBurger (veggie but not vegan)
Salmon burger (fish, of course)
Masala Burger (TJs)
Quinoa Cowboy Veggie Burger (TJs)
Falafel Burger (chickpeas)
Boca Burger
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Just offering a different perspective:


^ this study seems to say that estrogen is ok for men
But how much phytoestrogens are ok?

From other studies/sources that I've seen, a moderate amount of phytoestrogens are probaly ok, perhaps even healthy, for males and females.

However, phytoestrogens might be competing with real estrogen at estrogen receptor sites in the body. Likely not ideal. I believe that males have fewer of these receptor sites and, thus, have a lesser requirement for estrogen and a lower tolerance for high levels of phytoestrogens.

Some scientists are concerned that a high intake of phytoestrogens may disrupt the body's hormonal balance. In fact, phytoestrogens are classified as endocrine disruptors. These are chemicals that may interfere with the body's hormonal system when consumed at a sufficiently high dose.

 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
^ this study seems to say that estrogen is ok for men

the study (review article, actually) suggests merely that estrogen plays a role in sexual development of males, but we also know that estrogens in adult males seem to increase the risk of dementia, so the notion that it's "ok for men" is misleading
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
(there's also evidence that men with higher estrogen levels may be more likely to develop breast cancer -- men accounting for 1 to 2 percent of breast cancers -- Journal of Clinical Oncology 2015)
 

megamind

Legend
the study (review article, actually) suggests merely that estrogen plays a role in sexual development of males, but we also know that estrogens in adult males seem to increase the risk of dementia, so the notion that it's "ok for men" is misleading


i get confused tbh, i hear 2 different sides of the story from scientific ppl, both perhaps with vested interests

dont really know what the truth is

soy is a very common ingredient for a good chunk of the global population, surely it can't be that bad?
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
i get confused tbh, i hear 2 different sides of the story from scientific ppl, both perhaps with vested interests

dont really know what the truth is

soy is a very common ingredient for a good chunk of the global population, surely it can't be that bad?
Yeah, the "science" can be tricky. Many, if not most, scientific studies are not looking at the whole picture. They are typically only looking at 1 or few aspects of sustance or action. Often with very specific constraints. Many will look at these studies and will draw larger, over-reaching conclusions that are not actually supported (or often not really even suggested) by the study.

In the latter half of the 20th century, studies indicated that we should be consuming more polyunsaturated fats. But these studies did not make a distinction between omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. As a result, we got a lot of cooking oils and a fats added to food that were very high and omega-6 fats but had little or no omega-3 fats. Because of this we developed a gross imbalance of omega-6 to omega-3 fats in our diet. It is believed that this has contributed to runaway inflammation as a health issue.

In the 1980s and 1990s, coconut oil and other tropical fats were demonized. I believe this was due, in large part, to the efforts by soybean growers and the American Soybean Association. They wanted to sell mote soybeans by replacing tropical fats with soybean oil.

Unfortunately, much of this soybean oil was partially hydrogenated which, we found out later, results in very unhealthy trans fats. It wasn't until the late 90s that many of us discovered that those evil tropical fats for actually much healthier than the soybean oil that replace them.

It it is possible that some sources of soy protein might be healthier than others. Edamame might very well be more nutritious than soy milk, tofu, or other soy products. But, like anything, too much of a good thing is often not a good thing.

I have also heard that tofu and, possibly, some other soy products were implicated in dementia and other health issues for males. I'm fairly certain that these studies we're not referring to conservative intakes of these foods.
 
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When reading any article punting a specific product you need to find out who is paying for the article and what relation that person/company (and the article author) has to the product being written about.

If I want to sell my own product of course I will look to find at least one fact that is positive and ignore all the negative aspects when advertising.
 
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Chadalina

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Far out.


“Regenerative Times” concludes: “We are particularly concerned that a single patty of Impossible burger very likely contains a clinically active level of an estrogen booster designed for post-menopausal women.”

But even for post-menopausal women, this much estrogen regularly is problematic.

The Impossible Whopper has 44 mg of estrogen, and a regular Whopper has 2.5 ng of estrogen. Now, let me refresh your metric system. There are 1 million nanograms (ng) in one milligram (mg). That means an Impossible Whopper has 18 million times as much estrogen as a regular whopper, according to Tri-State Livestock News.

Forty-four milligrams of estrogen! By comparison, an entire month of estrogen tablets for transsexuals transitioning from male to female is 60 mg, and a year or so of that hormone regimen causes them to grow breasts, the penis and testicles to shrivel, and makes them infertile. So, in reality, this is a depopulation burger.

Just six glasses of soy milk per day provides enough estrogen for a man to grow boobies. That’s the equivalent of eating four Impossible Whoppers per day. You would have to eat 880 pounds of beef from an implanted steer to equal the amount of estrogen in one birth control pill.

The Impossible Whopper patty is made from 24 ingredients. The most important ingredient is soy protein. The Whopper patty has just one ingredient: beef.

Wonder if its intentional. Do other plant based meats turn you into a lady?
 
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