Modern PT57A ?
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Thanks for the suggestion. What do you think of The TF 40 18x20 ?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
The Auxetic Prestige Pro is worth trying. Low power, thin box beam, 18x20, plush layup.
Great stick. Slightly lower power than the 57A, excellent feel and feedback, larger sweet spot than the 57A, excellent control
I am loving the MP-L. It is a great layup, very similar to the PT2.0 (TGK57.5), crisper but comfortable and great feedback. Good power, and control for an open 99 sq in pattern.
Great stick. Slightly lower power than the 57A, excellent feel and feedback, larger sweet spot than the 57A, excellent control
I am loving the MP-L. It is a great layup, very similar to the PT2.0 (TGK57.5), crisper but comfortable and great feedback. Good power, and control for an open 99 sq in pattern.
ProRadTour
Professional
I think the new VCore Pro 97 has a similar feel to the old school head frames and the Blade 98 is also great. I could play with either and be content with them as a modern replacement for ageing PT.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
The Vcore feel is nothing like the PT57A2
shinminsoo86
Rookie
What about wilson ultra pro (18*20)?
That maybe kind of copy version of PT57A.
That maybe kind of copy version of PT57A.
McEncock
Professional
ProRadTour
Professional
Right, that's my opinion.
It's a soft and flexy frame, with very low vibrations. I didn't say it was the same, but to me it has a similar feel.
In terms of modern frames that have similar properties/characeteristics for me the VCore Pro line fits that bill, especially the 97D. The VCore Pro line feels way softer and more PT like than the Auxetic Prestige Pro for me.
It's a soft and flexy frame, with very low vibrations. I didn't say it was the same, but to me it has a similar feel.
In terms of modern frames that have similar properties/characeteristics for me the VCore Pro line fits that bill, especially the 97D. The VCore Pro line feels way softer and more PT like than the Auxetic Prestige Pro for me.
I was in Europe recently and thinking of the MP-L... can you compare with Gravity Pro? Thanks.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
They are very different.
Gravity pro is 18x20 vs 16x19 with MPL. Gravity has better control, MPL has more spin and slightly more power. It is 300g vs 315g for gravity. Gravity Pro has higher SW
The MPL is crisper layup, the Gravity is softer and Both have a nice feedback.
The Gravity Pro has slightly bigger and higher sweet spot.
Thanks!
You make me so curious about the MPL! Now playing the TGT 345.1
Roquestil
Semi-Pro
Dunlop Cx, Head Prestige Pro and Blade. But honestly only the pro tour 2.0 comes very close.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I’m really liking the Auxetic Prestige Pro. I like the softness of it.
PrinceYonex
Semi-Pro
Why are you trying to look beyond the PT2.0? Such a great frame, at an amazing price. It’s actually incredible that while prices for most racquets (including Head’s other racquet lines) are going up, this one is cheaper than many of the used frames sold on these boards.
SOY78
Professional
I have 4 of the original 2019 Gravity Pro and I can tell you that the Gravity Pro is like a PT57A but with more power, forgiveness, sweet spot, spin, and less weight. I can definitely switch between the two without too much adjustment. But my racquets are all with a leather grip and an overgrip so both the PT57As and the Gravity Pros are around 350 grams and headlight.
finalfantasy7
Professional
For me - the Prince ATS Textreme 98 plays as a modern version of a pt57a
GPro has more power, is it because of higher SW to start with?
Ultra Tour/Ultra Pro shouldn't be too far off it, me thinks.
Это две вообще разные ракетки с разными марками волокон в выкладке и разной концепции!! Ни один профи не переходил и не перейдет с PT57A на Gravity Pro любого поколения( даже на TGT 343.3/YT IG Speed MP 315) .. Вообще нельзя сравнивать!!
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
As the PT57a can weigh in around 360g strung ( I have weighed some north of that as well) if I wanted to replicate that without having to add a lot of weight I would be testing the current flexible heavyweights on the market and my demo list would be:
1. Pro Kennex Q Tour 325
2. Volkl C10 Pro or PB 10 Mid
3. Prince Phantom 93p 18/20
4. Yonex V Core Pro 97
If it was more about feel and you are going to weight these frames up yourself then I would choose.
1. Artengo 960 Control Tour
2. Wilson Ultra Pro
3. Head Prestige Pro
4. Pacific X Tour Pro 97
In terms of beam similarity I would say that the PK and Ultra Pro are closest.
1. Pro Kennex Q Tour 325
2. Volkl C10 Pro or PB 10 Mid
3. Prince Phantom 93p 18/20
4. Yonex V Core Pro 97
If it was more about feel and you are going to weight these frames up yourself then I would choose.
1. Artengo 960 Control Tour
2. Wilson Ultra Pro
3. Head Prestige Pro
4. Pacific X Tour Pro 97
In terms of beam similarity I would say that the PK and Ultra Pro are closest.
SOY78
Professional
I am not talking about professional players at all, this is just my personal opinion using both racquets my fellow russian speaking tennis buddy
Yes the racquets are different for sure. There is nothing compared to the PT57A that is close. But the Gravity Pro is somewhat similar to the feel and all those other things I listed in my original post.
finalfantasy7
Professional
i disagree the Prince ATS Textreme Tour 98 plays nearly identical to the pt57a - but imo plays etter as its lighter. It has the the butter smooth feel you get from the pt57a, same feel, same control, same topsin, same volleying, same power, like i said just plays lighter and faster to swingI am not talking about professional players at all, this is just my personal opinion using both racquets my fellow russian speaking tennis buddy
ProRadTour
Professional
The ATS 98 is awesome and agree it's the closest you will get from a current retail frame.
Recently got the new Prestige Pro, not as soft and buttery as the ATS 98, but a great frame also. It's a viable replacement for a PT57A. The sweet spot has the PT57A DNA.
The ATS 98 is easier to use, much larger sweet spot and more power and spin. But the feel is more muted than the Prestige Pro. Hard for me to say which one I like more in terms of feel, the Prestige has more feedback. The Prestige Pro is like the Porsche 911 of racquets, I can't really fault it in anyway. But super demanding.
The Prestige Pro is like a hybrid of the IG Prestige Mid and the PT57A. Softer than the IG Mid, but a little firmer than the PT57A. I think Head have succeeded in creating a modern PT57A. Don't think they can do much more to improve it. Hopefully they don't change it.
The Yonex VCore Pro is also an option, but not as close as the ATS or Prestige Pro.
I originally thought the VCore Pro was closer to the PT than the Prestige but after spending some more time with the Prestige Pro, I was wrong.
Recently got the new Prestige Pro, not as soft and buttery as the ATS 98, but a great frame also. It's a viable replacement for a PT57A. The sweet spot has the PT57A DNA.
The ATS 98 is easier to use, much larger sweet spot and more power and spin. But the feel is more muted than the Prestige Pro. Hard for me to say which one I like more in terms of feel, the Prestige has more feedback. The Prestige Pro is like the Porsche 911 of racquets, I can't really fault it in anyway. But super demanding.
The Prestige Pro is like a hybrid of the IG Prestige Mid and the PT57A. Softer than the IG Mid, but a little firmer than the PT57A. I think Head have succeeded in creating a modern PT57A. Don't think they can do much more to improve it. Hopefully they don't change it.
The Yonex VCore Pro is also an option, but not as close as the ATS or Prestige Pro.
I originally thought the VCore Pro was closer to the PT than the Prestige but after spending some more time with the Prestige Pro, I was wrong.
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finalfantasy7
Professional
Yeh i completey agree with yu regarding the ats 98 and the prestige pro, hence why i settled with the ats98, prestige pro is too demanding - especially on the run/defence shots
J-Wildcard
Semi-Pro
Maybe I got a bad prestige, I have got the 360+ mp version which is very similar to the prestige auxetic I hear but feel like I cannot get any power from the frame. It's got a good solid hit and decent sweetspot but when you actually go for the big hit the frame doesn't comply and deliver. I would say the gravity pro allowed me to hit a little bit bigger but not as good as the older IG MP which I do have a bit of tungsten to lift the swingweight a bit.
I am tempted on switching over to a speed pro, blade v8 or gravity pro or vcore pro 97D but I feel all those frames will have a bit less feel. I have got a pro tour 2.0 to try still though?
ProRadTour
Professional
Yeah not a lot of power at you disposal with the Prestige. It's a nice frame to have in the collection, not sure how many people would benefit from the Prestige in competitive competition. You really need a big game.
The Gravity Pro from past version is bigger version of Prestige. More forgiving and bit more power, but it's also a demanding frame IMO. Most people would probably benefit more with the Speed Pro.
The Blade isn't to much more powerful imo. The 97D and ATS 98 are worth a demo, they are more powerful with bigger sweet spots.
The Gravity Pro from past version is bigger version of Prestige. More forgiving and bit more power, but it's also a demanding frame IMO. Most people would probably benefit more with the Speed Pro.
The Blade isn't to much more powerful imo. The 97D and ATS 98 are worth a demo, they are more powerful with bigger sweet spots.
WYK
Legend
I would ditto this. The MP-L is a good modern take on it. It's not the same, but it is definitely more modern. Murray played a few sets with it in competition, after all. So can't be too far off.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
J-Wildcard
Semi-Pro
Yes, the speed pro has become more like the prestige and gravity pro it seems in the last two generations. They have reduced the power and made it a more controlled power frame than it used to be. The prestige is the best racket to enjoy the feel and touch and I would probably enjoy it for doubles more but to hit with big power it is a demanding racket which I enjoy but for the effort you put in it is physically demanding as time goes on. When you are in top shape these are the frames that let you hit full and and still make the court but I am still unsure how the raw power has gone from this frame, it's a bigger head size yes but still smaller than the speed pro and gravity pro. I guess the lay up whilst being soft just seems to lack something when you want to hit through a ball really hard, it's always around 75-80% power for me and that's strung low at 46/48lbs. I was thinking of weighting it up to 330ish SW and putting the tension up a bit towards 50lbs to see if it can get a bit more predictable solid top end power.
WYK
Legend
I think with stiff and maybe thin polys the Gravity pro works very well for a former Prestige owner.
I have one strung up with MSV focus hex 118 and it's one of my favourite sticks.
