2018, I believe. The grey, black, red.Which model did you get?
I am taking pictures of the progress and will share the result.
2018, I believe. The grey, black, red.Which model did you get?
Uups, sorry, got confused by TW website.Except that he uses the Vcore 95D... but I know what you mean. They are both great for OHBHs (as are many of the Yonex racquets - 97HD, VCORE 95, RDiS 100 MP, Vcore 89, Ezone DR98, etc etc).
Uups, sorry, got confused by TW website.
Is there any VCORE 95D for sale...hard to get why it was discontinued...?
The Vcore Tour 97 that replaced the 95 was an excellent racquet. Most people would benefit more from using that one over the 95D.
Tennis Warehouse - Yonex VCORE Tour 97 Racquet Review
www.tennis-warehouse.com
How is the feel of the VCP HD compared to the Tour G?Never played with that one... but the flex rating was 66... and for that reason I ended up getting the VCore Tour G 330g. That one was excellent (although beefy), and I love many things about it. The Duel G was easier to manoeuvre and also felt very nice. My latest addition in this range was the 97HD, which after some modification, has become an absolute beast.
Hope the upcoming iteration gets even better. Great line of racquets.
How is the feel of the VCP HD compared to the Tour G?
Despite some flaws, the current Dunlop CX200 Tour 18x20 is a 1hbh dream.
I only have experience with the 18x20 version of the CX200, the PT630, and the 6.1 95.Not sure whether you've seen the video review of some of the current 95 by AC Tennis? I found it very interesting. Would be interested in your thoughts.
I only have experience with the 18x20 version of the CX200, the PT630, and the 6.1 95.
As far as the 6.1 95, I love it with leather and lead at 3/9. It drives up the static and swing weights, but the result is super stable and insane feel. However, it also results in a frame that is unwieldy for most and too demanding in the modern game. As much as I love full poly setups, gut/poly takes this frame to a whole different level. And when you have the right setup and lay into the ball, nothing puts the hurt on the ball like the 6.1 does. The nCode iteration of the 6.1 95 18x20 is one of my GOAT frames.
The CX200 Tour's biggest fault is its vagueness. I get that Dunlop was attempting to make the sweet spot more generous, but the result to me was a racquet with little feedback and limited connection to the ball. However, the grip shape and the butt cap flare are absolute perfection. Flawless referencing for both forehand and backhand grips. I would put that grip on any racquet.
The PT630 is a legend in its own right for so many reasons. It's the definition of plush and the inception of feel fetishism. Again, gut/poly is a must in this frame. If you want a pure joy hit, this is the frame.
My general thought on frames like this is that they are fine for a casual hit but, for the majority of players at least, are not beneficial to the competitive game. They all bring something unique and attractive to the table. They're fun to flirt with but not something you go long-term.
For sure, it depends on your level and your opponent. And at a certain skill level, a player can adapt to any racquet. When I came back to tennis, I was trying to stick to smaller head sizes with dense patterns since those were what I played with previously. But as I played more and understood my game and my opponent's games better, I had to explore alternatives.Thanks for your feedback. We agree on most things.
I haven't hit the Dunlop (as I have too many racquets already), the PT630 is fantastic and a legend (the PT 2.0 is just as good), the 6.1 95 I have in the Classic 16x18 and the 2014 18x20 (love them both)... and you're right, nothing puts the hurt on the ball quite like the 6.1 95 (it has one of the best balances and feels in hand of almost any racquet out there - just holding it in hand gives you the feeling you're holding something special). The VCORE 95 (2018) I haven't hit enough with, but it's already good... therefore, the more I hit it the better it will get. Finally, I have the G360+ PMP and not the Prestige Pro... but the PMP is a great racquet and Head has done a great job with it. I think in time it will become one of the "classic" Prestiges.
Your last paragraph... I think depends on what you're used to playing with and what the standard of the opponent you're facing is.
Cheers
Thanks!They are both very soft and muted (of course the type of strings you use will also play a part - soft Vs firm polys, etc). There is a difference in the balance and location of weight within the frame (my Tour G has lots of mass in the throat area, whereas my 97HD had lots of mass in the top half of the head but was easier to swing due to the difference in static weight). Therefore, quite different in feel in stock form. The Tour G, due to it's mass, had huge stability and produced massive amounts of power and weight-of-shot (as long as the action was smooth and relaxed), the 97HD was good but not excellent (hence why I modified it).
The launch angle of the Tour G was lower (but I'm not sure whether that was because it was an absolute tank, or just because of the denseness of the 16x20 string bed), but I didn't hit the net tape as much with it as I did with the 97HD (especially after my first modification). This lead me to continue to modify the 97HD, and after more tinkering it now had great control, excellent launch angle (no more unexpected shots that hit the top of the net tape), and awesome power.
I feel like the Tour G has a bit more feel off the string bed (slightly less muted - but it has been a while since I strung it up and it will also depend on the strings used - my Tour G came to me with fresh Solinco Tour Bite, while my 97HD I strung with Volkl Cyclone/ Weiss Cannon Explosiv), however, the placement of the mass within the frame, means that it requires ones full attention. Due to that, I feel that the way I set up my 97HD allows me to play with more flair and touch (the racquet is great on drop shots and change of pace), it's great on defence, and the transition from defence to offence. The Tour G, even though I like the feel when hitting the ball and it's stability, makes me feel like I have to be on the front foot from the very first point. I need to get on the attack and stay there in order to control the point. If I allow my opponent to get there first, the mass of the racquet (or at least it's distribution within the racquet) will work against me and make me feel like I'm a little on the back foot. I don't feel that with the 97HD. It allows me to better deal with the ebbs and flows of the point and pick my moments.
I will have to string them both with the same strings and tension and play them back-to-back one of these days. Too many racquets... too little time.
Hope that was helpful. Sorry for the long answer.
I had the tf40 305. I wanted to like it but gave up. It just felt too head heavy even though I tried to tail weight it. I was advised that the 315 version would be a better fit for me.The TF40 315 was top of my list for my 1HBH also. I did find it a tad too unwieldy but that could come down to QC. So an underspec'ed version could be perfect for me.
The other option I'm considering is getting the TF40 305 and add a heavier grip to it. TW say it's an easier swinging racquet in their reviews in comparison so that could be my ticket. I just can't find a demo locally being Canadian so probably will just buy it blind. Best feeling and most comfortable racquet of all that I tried recently. Foam filled core racquets from now on for me.
The other racquet that impressed me is the current Radical MP. Man, I was ripping some serious 1HBH with it. Great serving racquet too. It just feels too damn stiff and could cause elbow issues I'm foreseeing. That mainly, and it's retina burning paint job, are the reasons why I'm not getting it. The TF40 305's specs are nearly identical to the Radical so fingers crossed that it'll play similarly.
It also depends what specs yours was stock since the Gravity's have a pretty nasty QC lottery. All the ones I've tried have been 335-345 SW and from what I've seen they're over spec pretty often...if I'd have tried one that was maybe 325-329 SW I'd probably have a diff. opinionI don't find the Gravity Pro to be sluggish on the OHBH side at all... but mine is modified with weight in the head and handle.
It will be, the 315 is a gem for sure. I wish I had one that was on spec though (mine's over spec at 342g strung)...I had the tf40 305. I wanted to like it but gave up. It just felt too head heavy even though I tried to tail weight it. I was advised that the 315 version would be a better fit for me.
For sure, it depends on your level and your opponent. And at a certain skill level, a player can adapt to any racquet. When I came back to tennis, I was trying to stick to smaller head sizes with dense patterns since those were what I played with previously. But as I played more and understood my game and my opponent's games better, I had to explore alternatives.
Imagine my shock when I found myself playing my best tennis with 100 and a 16x19 pattern. But do I still take the nCode out for an occasion session? You bet I do.
It also depends what specs yours was stock since the Gravity's have a pretty nasty QC lottery. All the ones I've tried have been 335-345 SW and from what I've seen they're over spec pretty often...if I'd have tried one that was maybe 325-329 SW I'd probably have a diff. opinion
Am in my mid-50s... and I don't reckon you will. The 100s don't solve it. Y'll be in yr mid next-decade and you won't be much off yr present one btw. And yr 1hbh will still be yr 1hbh. If anything it might be more itself! Y'll adjust with strings or maybe a reduction in SW is all.I know there will come a day when I will start to rely on the 100s more... and then change them to more powerful 100s (like a Pure Drive or Dunlop SX 300 Tour)... but I'm not there yet.
Am in my mid-50s... and I don't reckon you will. The 100s don't solve it. Y'll be in yr mid next-decade and you won't be much off yr present one btw. And yr 1hbh will still be yr 1hbh. If anything it might be more itself! Y'll adjust with strings or maybe a reduction in SW is all.
-agree here ^^I just cannot seem to get along with 100sq on my 1hbh and although I love the forgiveness of such a racq (Speed MP) it just doesn't chime over time...
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So once again... small headsize, HL balance
Bloddy 'ell mate, tuff as nails!nails in the handle,
Yeh see we're not going to better what appears to be a suitable formula, something like where dynamics meets mechanics! I do believe Justine Hennin(Hardenne?) used head-heavy I think? If so she was small stature countering the likes of Serena power.it's 330gm 7HL strung. It's my fav currently and surprisingly good for my 1HBH too. Very comfy and I can get more spin on the backhand
-agree here ^^
-over time ,(to compensate on the extra drag) i find myself slicing the backhands more than coming over top with the 1HBH, with 100"< racquets
-97s seem to be ok, but i wish there were more 95s
-my 93" k-blades are something "special" on the 1HBH, i miss them
You are right, Justine did..Bloddy 'ell mate, tuff as nails!
Yeh see we're not going to better what appears to be a suitable formula, something like where dynamics meets mechanics! I do believe Justine Hennin(Hardenne?) used head-heavy I think? If so she was small stature countering the likes of Serena power.
Feel sure 2hbh would larf at us... "extra drag" whattya talkin' 'bout! However, totally agree. Whatever it is, freeing up the 1hbh seems to require some careful plotting on our part. Like it's sensitive to whatevers right. Otherwise we wouldn't be fussing about it here. Think the window for contact with the ball when 1hbh is a bit harder to meet, technique-wise, hence we have to get the equipment right.
(I mean a Sampras slaughters with like 340 or 360 grams but up close that guy was a phenomenal athlete, a big panther padding around the court, when by contrast he was playing little Lleyton Hewitt was that Lleyton was just popping his 2hbh guiding it back into crt using a 90sq in.)
Yes the 93 blade bit unsure if I had it, may have for short time only, seem to remember the tan leather grip, the nippy thru-the-air feel, but also this (again short time) http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/wilson-k-pro-tour-96.342334/
Am in my mid-50s... and I don't reckon you will. The 100s don't solve it. Y'll be in yr mid next-decade and you won't be much off yr present one btw. And yr 1hbh will still be yr 1hbh. If anything it might be more itself! Y'll adjust with strings or maybe a reduction in SW is all.
Yeh see we're not going to better what appears to be a suitable formula, something like where dynamics meets mechanics! I do believe Justine Hennin(Hardenne?) used head-heavy I think? If so she was small stature countering the likes of Serena power.
- if one has, as I do, a traditional technique (Eastern FH, OHBH, slice) that suits a 95sq.in., dropping static weight in the racquet does help making it more manageable and less tiring. I went from 330g unstrung for the 93P to 310g
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That's because the TC95 has a relatively high swing weight even at 310g / 315mm due to its foam filled construction. But even non foam filled racquets like, say, a Yonex Vcore 95 could be brought to high 320 / low 330 SW with the addition of just a few g of lead in the hoop, while keeping static weight manageable at < 315g unstrung
Interestingly, my Ktour95 is similar in that the static weight is 311g, but my rough estimate of the swingweight (until I bring it into a proshop for a sw test) is probably >= 320g.
Am in my mid-50s... and I don't reckon you will. The 100s don't solve it. Y'll be in yr mid next-decade and you won't be much off yr present one btw. And yr 1hbh will still be yr 1hbh. If anything it might be more itself! Y'll adjust with strings or maybe a reduction in SW is all.
I don’t think people have a problem with heavy, so long as it is head light. I was surprised by how difficult I found it to hit light frames that were balance towards the head. I like the racquet to rotate around the throat.I'm soon to be 60 and have what seems to be a pretty good OHBH for a 4.5 player of my age. I don't notice problems with hitting my backhand with a wide variety of racquets. I'm currently using a 350 gram 345 SW 28" long SW104 and have no problems, and had a couple of month flirtation with a 27.5", 112 square inch Aero 112 racquet also with no problems. Sure, there are differences, but there are also differences if you play on a hot day versus a cold day, or with the wind against you versus at your back, or with Penn Champ balls or Wilson US Open balls. And I also have preferences but only at the extreme top end of my tennis capability. If I'm hitting 90% or less, I can rally with most anything. So I wonder how much of a problem people have with racquets and the OHBH is because they believe they will have problems. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
As an example, here's a video I shot of my first day with a demo Aero 112 from Tennis Warehouse. Not only was this racquet about 6 points HH (versus my SW104 which is about 10 points HL), it also had synthetic gut strings when I always use a full bed of poly. And the strings were well used. And the grip size was a 3/8 while I use a 6/8. And it was within a week or two of when our club finally reopened after a long pandemic closure. And the balls were flat from sitting for more than six weeks totally unused. Still, it seems that good contact is good contact, and good contact leads to balls going generally where they are supposed to go.
For those of you who have problems, what kind of problems do you have? All I've read in this thread is that a heavier racquet can be sluggish for a OHBH. I can believe that. But what else? And how do you not encounter that same issue when playing with your preferred OHBH racquet and in some environmental condition that mimics that problem?
Angell ASL2 is good for this.I’ve been trying a few frames recently. Still a few I want to test but on the following I am wondering what others think.
Head extreme tour
Yonex ezone 305
Both of these frames feel ok. But I notice that both, whilst being 20-25gms lighter in static weight than my current leaded up frame, feel head heavier. I find them good on my forehand, but on my 1hbh I think they feel a bit sluggish. I started to wonder if this sort of balance really only suits a 2hbh.
Also, is the a modern players frame that really suits a 1hbh, offers some pop on serve and is quick and solid at the net?
I'm playing with the Prince Phantom 97p. But the Angell ASL2 was a nice balance between being lighter, whippier and more powerful while still having 'player frame' characteristics.@Blahovic What did you choose in the end?
Long term there's still a few other racquets I'm interested in though.
But the Angell ASL2 was a nice balance between being lighter, whippier and more powerful while still having 'player frame' characteristics.
Dunlop CX Tour, Babolat Pure Strike Tour, Volkl C10 Pro, Head Speed Pro, Head Gravity Pro.What do you have on your wish list?
There's an updated recent version of the Wilson Six. One 95 at wilson pro labs. But the ones with 4 3/8" handles seem out of stock currently.
Pro Staff Six.One (18x20) v13 Tennis Racket
A favorite of advanced and professional players for the past two decades, the Pro Staff Six.One (18x20) carries a one-two punch of sleek design and intimidating performance to the court. Crafted for experienced players who hit the sweet spot with consistewww.wilson.com
(a march 2021 review)
Head Boom Pro reviews say manoeuvrable and is a 98....
I guess I don’t agree that there are racquets that are better for volleys, singles, doubles, FHs etc. either. Just look at the incredible diversity of racquets that players at both the club, college and pro levels use whether they are singles or doubles specialists, FH-weapon or 1HBH players. You’ll literally see every spec under the sun - if there were racquiet specs good for particular shots or styles, you would expect to see more uniformity in what doubles specialists and 1HBH players play with. The only thing I agree with is that most players will probably prefer a lighter SW for serving than they do from the baseline/net - usually the racquet they use will be a compromise SW somewhere in the middle where they can do both serving and groundstokes/volleys reasonably well, but not perfectly.Bethany matek sands was going through choosing a racquet w TW and remarked how some racquets worked on certain shots and some knobbled others.
If a racquet can be lauded as a good serving racquet, or a good volleying one, or one's good for singles while one's good for doubles, or ppl felt their FH come alive with such and such, or they get great flat-out penetrative shots with this racquet, and so on, then most certainly players can group around discussing how one racquet just plain suits their 1hbh.
And trying to isolate the characteristics that contribute is half the fun along the way.
@socallefty
How about Gravity Pro (360+) ?1HBH is biomechanically very different from a forehand or 2HBH. It's a difficult shot, even for Federer. He said in the interview that he sometimes misses his old racquet for attacking forehand, but had to sacrifice a little bit to stabilize his backhand.
Exhibit 1. Polarized racquet like Blade is excellent for forehand but a bit difficult for 1HBH
Exhibit 2. OS raquets - much better for FH, 2HBH
Exhibit 3. PD style racquets - stiff, thick, 100 head - again, great for FH, less so on 1HBH
Ideally, I would like a racquet that would be a bit forgiving from both wings, provide some free power when I'm tired or not in my best shape, but will also give me enough control on all-out forehand attacks. So far, I found three racquets that may work:
- VCP 310 (weighted up to 330 SW)
- Head Radical Pro (360+)
- Babolat Pure Strike Tour 3d (the @socallefty 's racquet)
Fix your 1HBH technique or volley and you don’t need to look for a 1HBH or Doubles friendly racquet.