Monfils is convinced he will win a slam title. Deluded or just plain nuts?

RedFoe

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In a recent interview Gael stated he was "100% convinced" he will win a slam eventually, as soon as he changes "a little thing here and there".

I am a fan of Monfils (who isn't), and I found this bold statement both comical but also encouraging, because I'd prefer players like him to believe in the impossible than to just hang in there a few more years to rake in some extra cash (which is perfectly legit as well, just not ideal motivation as far as fans go).

Or do you think he was joking? I didn't get the sense that he was.

Personally, the chances of him winning a slam were 0% 5 years ago. Now they are, well, there's no number for it maybe.
 

jga111

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If anything Wawrinka has shown that with determination, some luck on the day, it can be done. And Cilic - who would have predicted him to win a slam with the current crop of players?

Monfils knows his game, he knows what adjustments he needs to make - I trust his judgement over ours. He can certainly do it. I would love him to win a slam, would be great for tennis!
 

RedFoe

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If anything Wawrinka has shown that with determination, some luck on the day, it can be done. And Cilic - who would have predicted him to win a slam with the current crop of players?

Monfils knows his game, he knows what adjustments he needs to make - I trust his judgement over ours. He can certainly do it. I would love him to win a slam, would be great for tennis!
If there were one player I could pick to win the next slam, it would be him. In a finale against RF. 5 sets, defending 11 match points. And the chances of that happening are smaller than Tom Cruise winning the Nobel Prize in Physics.

Cilic and Wawrinka are serious professionals. Gael is a professional, but I'm not sure about the serious part. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to win a slam. Technically, he does.
 

jga111

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If there were one player I could pick to win the next slam, it would be him. In a finale against RF. 5 sets, defending 11 match points. And the chances of that happening are smaller than Tom Cruise winning the Nobel Prize in Physics.

Cilic and Wawrinka are serious professionals. Gael is a professional, but I'm not sure about the serious part. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to win a slam. Technically, he does.

Tom Cruise can certainly find a way to win that prize - in a film of course :)

Gael's mentality is the issue - but maybe that is one of the adjustments he is focusing on. Don't fully rule him out, sport has seen us witness far bigger surprises and upsets.
 
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I could see him stealing one to be honest before some other 2nd tier players.
 

DMTNA

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I really like Monfils. He is funny, crazy and sometimes he can have amazing shots. But he is inconsistent.
Monfils will never win a grand slam.
 

BringBackSV

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He has poor tactics, iffy stamina, inconsistent focus, and unreliable mental fortitude. I also don't like his net play. So, short of some great luck I don't see it.
 

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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And thus, so the tale goes, ones credibility sailed off into the horizon.
He is right, Monfils doesnt recover well between long matches so maybe 'strong enough' was the wrong term, but Monfils has not the best stamina thats actually one of his weaknesses
Monfils is actually one of the few players that I believe is 100 per cent clean.
 

mavsman149

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Monfils is deluded, extremely talented but doesn't have the tennis smarts. It's a shame the French have had so many solid top 20 players, it' shocking they haven't had a slam champion since Noah in 83. I would still love to see Tsonga win one or maybe Gasquet, neither is very likely but I think Tsonga has a better shot.
 
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Rosstour

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Too little too late, he is just now waking up to the fact that he is getting too old. He should have been thinking this way 5 years ago.

He got by on talent and shotmaking for so long that he assumed he could just flip a switch at some point and win one. I'm not sure he can now.
 

PDJ

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I can see that you are at the forefront of the Positive Mental Attitude crew :)
Actually I think @Mr.Lob is right. Monfils appears to prefer to grandstand rather than buckle down and work for it (his RG match v Murray last year was bizarre- he appeared to give up, stormed back to level sets at two a piece and then folded to lose the final set to love) . That said I rarely watch complete matches of his (RG v Murray an exception )but will seek out the edited highlights- he's good value.
But if he believes it then better that than otherwise.
 
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smoledman

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Monfils has yet to produce the equivalent of Stan's 2013 AO R16 result where he truly takes a top player to the limit. 2014 US Open doesn't count because he folded in the 5th set. I don't think he'll ever have the fitness to win a slam.
 
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TennisCJC

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Com' on, never say never. He could have 1 inspired run and win RG like Noah did but the draw would have to open up. He only has about 2 years left to hit the lottery.
 
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killerboi2

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People should take into consideration that the field is mug like at the moment. All it takes is a bad day from Djokovic and then almost anyone can win a slam. I'm not writing anyone off at the moment. However the mug under discussion would have to stop playing up to the crowd and take the sport seriously if he is to remotely have a chance.
 

Mr.Lob

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And thus, so the tale goes, ones credibility sailed off into the horizon.
He is right, Monfils doesnt recover well between long matches so maybe 'strong enough' was the wrong term, but Monfils has not the best stamina thats actually one of his weaknesses
Monfils is actually one of the few players that I believe is 100 per cent clean.

Thx. Yes. Obviously in looking at Monfils he is a physical specimen... muscular and lean. But he cannot maintain that physicality over a long match, or over the course of a two week tournament. He needs to put in the work to build up his endurance.
 
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Mr.Lob

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Actually I think @Mr.Lob is right. Monfils appears to prefer to grandstand rather than buckle down and work for it (his RG match v Murray last year was bizarre- he appeared to give up, stormed back to level sets at two a piece and then folded to lose the final set to love) . That said I rarely watch complete matches of his (RG v Murray an exception )but will seek out the edited highlights- he's good value.
But if he believes it then better that than otherwise.

Monfils mentally tanks in tough matches against the tops guys. About the only player I've ever seen double over at the waist, after a rally, completely out of breath. I enjoy watching him play, and often pull for him, but he just doesn't have the mental strength or physical endurance to win slams.
 
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Better to believe and have faith than not to. Shows he has confidence in his game and himself if he can make these statements which is a positive sign.

I think his best shot at a major would be at the US Open to be honest, but he'd need Novak to be knocked out and be in blistering form when he meets Federer, Murray or Nadal. He can certainly win a major, but it is a long shot.
 
I haven't even seen Monfils play anywhere in a really long time. If he isn't even getting far enough into the tournaments I'm watching for me to see him then how can he possibly have a shot at a grand slam? He better drastically improve his form out of the blue.
 

RanchDressing

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I don't see it. He likes to play some really odd shots. Which can work, but his style is so random an un disiplined. Like just randomly bust out a 120mph forehand and otherwise roll the ball around.

Cilic and Stan always had decidedly aggressive style and shot selection. They figured out patterns that would win the matches and then were able to execute.

If gael can play more bread and butter tennis I would believe it. But from what I've seen of him he's just all over the place.
 

RedFoe

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Monfils is deluded, extremely talented but doesn't have the tennis smarts. It's a shame the French have had so many solid top 20 players, it' shocking they haven't had a slam champion since Noah in 83. I would still love to see Tsonga win one or maybe Gasquet, neither is very likely but I think Tsonga has a better shot.
French players are hands down the biggest chokers on tour, always have been.

Grosjean, Pioline, Gasquet, Tsonga, Forget, Tulasne, Monfils, Clement, Simon, Leconte... the list of their top 10 talent goes on and on, and yet the most any of them has won is a M1000, in Tsonga's case two. 0-5 in slam finales since Noah 1983, just one set won, and most have negative scores in ATP finales. Not to mention the dozens of players who underachieved so much they didn't reach the top 20 even.

This failure of French players deserves its own thread. A mystery.
 
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BHServe

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If anything Wawrinka has shown that with determination, some luck on the day, it can be done. And Cilic - who would have predicted him to win a slam with the current crop of players?

Monfils knows his game, he knows what adjustments he needs to make - I trust his judgement over ours. He can certainly do it. I would love him to win a slam, would be great for tennis!

Wawrinka clearly has his focus on slams, and tends to play his best there. Once he gets red hot, there is no one to stop him as we have twice witnessed

As for Cilic, he has been in/around top ten for many years, played very strong hc series before uso2014 and was a dark horse to go deep in my and many other's papers. Both him and wawrinka are stable when they hit the mode/A-game, even though that might not come together too often.

Monfils has skills thats for sure, but he is just too unconsistent to keep his act together two long weeks during a slam. Even though it would be great if he won a slam since he is very enjoyable to watch when on, i just cant see it happening:-/
 

RanchDressing

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French players are hands down the biggest chokers on tour, always have been.

Grosjean, Pioline, Gasquet, Tsonga, Monfils, Clement, Simon, Leconte... the list of their top 10 talent goes on and on, and yet the most any of them has won is a M1000, in Tsonga's case two. 0-5 in slam finales since Noah 1983, just one set won, and most have negative scores in ATP finales. Not to mention the dozens of players who underachieved so much they didn't reach the top 20 even.

This failure of French players deserves its own thread. A mystery.
Its horrible to say because they have some truely talented players but youre completely right.
Tsonga even had a very strong chance at beating stan to make it to rg final where who knows with novak and that crowd
 

mavsman149

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French players are hands down the biggest chokers on tour, always have been.

Grosjean, Pioline, Gasquet, Tsonga, Monfils, Clement, Simon, Leconte... the list of their top 10 talent goes on and on, and yet the most any of them has won is a M1000, in Tsonga's case two. 0-5 in slam finales since Noah 1983, just one set won, and most have negative scores in ATP finales. Not to mention the dozens of players who underachieved so much they didn't reach the top 20 even.

This failure of French players deserves its own thread. A mystery.

Completely agree and don't forget....Forget
 

RedFoe

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Wawrinka clearly has his focus on slams, and tends to play his best there. Once he gets red hot, there is no one to stop him as we have twice witnessed

As for Cilic, he has been in/around top ten for many years, played very strong hc series before uso2014 and was a dark horse to go deep in my and many other's papers. Both him and wawrinka are stable when they hit the mode/A-game, even though that might not come together too often.

Monfils has skills thats for sure, but he is just too unconsistent to keep his act together two long weeks during a slam. Even though it would be great if he won a slam since he is very enjoyable to watch when on, i just cant see it happening:-/
I agree with everything except this.

Ehem, twice? Rafa was injured in that AO finale.
 
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Chadillac

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He is getting better, remember how far he used to hang behind the baseline? I havent been keepin up with him lately but doesnt he have a brutal match then lose. Like him vs Simon that goes for 4hours
 

BHServe

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I agree with everything except this.

Ehem, twice? Rafa was injured in that AO finale.

Valid notion, but im sure my point was understood. Monfils has not even been in a slam final and has only one sf from 7 years ago. And stan could have very well win even healthy rafa, he already beat novak in that epic sf. Just wanted to say that stan can get the job done, and i dont see monfils winning slams with his tendencies to inconsistency.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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No, not just plain nuts...


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tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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French players are hands down the biggest chokers on tour, always have been.

Grosjean, Pioline, Gasquet, Tsonga, Forget, Tulasne, Monfils, Clement, Simon, Leconte... the list of their top 10 talent goes on and on, and yet the most any of them has won is a M1000, in Tsonga's case two. 0-5 in slam finales since Noah 1983, just one set won, and most have negative scores in ATP finales. Not to mention the dozens of players who underachieved so much they didn't reach the top 20 even.

This failure of French players deserves its own thread. A mystery.
Most have/had a mentalty problem: Gasquet, Monfils, Leconte, Grosjean...
some dont have that problem IMO: Simon and Tsonga have the mentality to be slam winners. Simon just doesnt have the right game/power to succeed while Tsonga doesnt have the backhand.
 

SublimeTennis

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In a recent interview Gael stated he was "100% convinced" he will win a slam eventually, as soon as he changes "a little thing here and there".

I am a fan of Monfils (who isn't), and I found this bold statement both comical but also encouraging, because I'd prefer players like him to believe in the impossible than to just hang in there a few more years to rake in some extra cash (which is perfectly legit as well, just not ideal motivation as far as fans go).

Or do you think he was joking? I didn't get the sense that he was.

Personally, the chances of him winning a slam were 0% 5 years ago. Now they are, well, there's no number for it maybe.

If he trains and takes the sport seriously he can definitely win a slam, personally I have zero doubt, but can he change? That's the big question.
 

heftylefty

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Yes, crap on the guy who has the audacity to believe he could win a Slam. Whether you are a world class playing or a 3.5 hack, who walks into a tennis court without the stones to believe you can win?
 

PDJ

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Yes, crap on the guy who has the audacity to believe he could win a Slam. Whether you are a world class playing or a 3.5 hack, who walks into a tennis court without the stones to believe you can win?
I don't think that's especially fair: Quite a few of us have written that it's good that he believes he can win a major. However, the majority of us believe he's not capable for the reasons listed. I think they are valid points and Monfils can only prove us wrong.
over-all I personally think this thread, given the norm, is pretty civilised and constructive.

From a personal point of view: living in France it does seem to me that the tennis-at club level- is mostly about the drama and as being as vocal as possible without the work ethic to improve. It's all about the talent not the tactics. Just my take.
 

RanchDressing

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I agree with everything except this.

Ehem, twice? Rafa was injured in that AO finale.
Rafa was NOT the man to beat. Novak was. And for two years in a row stan took it to novak like a semi truck going 150 miles an hour. Those were both some of the most epic matches ive ever seen and are incredible.

Nadal got his ass absolutely handed to him that first set. I think most people recognize that nadal was getting truely outclassed BEFORE the injury. I also think most non nadalturds (rafa fans) will agree that that injury seemed too well placed and nadal almost staged a comeback. Not very believable.

Either way injured fake injured, nadal was fine the first set and was getting absolutely wrecked. He had no solutions for stan. And stan beat the djokonaught on his home ao turf. That alone is not something nadal has ever done. Remeber 2012 ao final? Stan played a higher level and intensity for two years in a row agains novak and won.

Stop taking away from that ao title. He deserved it. I thought stan would win the whole thing as soon as he beat novak. That was probably the most impressive performance I've seen in a long time.

You can defend your china bull (get it because hes a fragile hunk a junk), but dont take away from a player who deserves a lot of admiration. Not just for winning, but showing everyone across the globe what hard work and perserverance can do for you. Even when your age and the doubts are against you.
 

RanchDressing

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If he trains and takes the sport seriously he can definitely win a slam, personally I have zero doubt, but can he change? That's the big question.
I think he could. Like he has the technique to hit the ball crazy hard and the serve is pretty good too. So the technique is absolutely there. And the belief is there apparently. Kind of funny because most of the players around him try to throw the kitchen sink every point, but dont have the talent. He's got the talent, but the drive to win seems questionable
 
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RedFoe

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I don't think that's especially fair: Quite a few of us have written that it's good that he believes he can win a major. However, the majority of us believe he's not capable for the reasons listed. I think they are valid points and Monfils can only prove us wrong.
over-all I personally think this thread, given the norm, is pretty civilised and constructive.

From a personal point of view: living in France it does seem to me that the tennis-at club level- is mostly about the drama and as being as vocal as possible without the work ethic to improve. It's all about the talent not the tactics. Just my take.
Highly fascinating. This is precisely what I had always suspected. The Spaniards seem to focus more on kids who really WANT it, rather than just obvious talents. Which is why the Spanish have 5 slam champs since the 90s and the French zero, plus the Spanish are much better in finales and close matches.
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
If you compare the major French female champions they have all taken a different route to glory.
Mauresmo - I think came through the French Federation system but had to fight a French Press that vilified her. Odd, because now they love her as they do Noah.
Bartoli remained apart from the system (her father had a very fractious relationship with the Federation ) for most of her career.
Pierce was US based.
I think it's fair to say the Federation breeds great players but not champions...for now.

To be honest you only have to look at their very excitable tennis federation president to get an idea how it is here.

Quite a culture shock initially after tennis in England. But I'm used to it now :)
 
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RedFoe

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Rafa was NOT the man to beat. Novak was. And for two years in a row stan took it to novak like a semi truck going 150 miles an hour. Those were both some of the most epic matches ive ever seen and are incredible.

Nadal got his ass absolutely handed to him that first set. I think most people recognize that nadal was getting truely outclassed BEFORE the injury. I also think most non nadalturds (rafa fans) will agree that that injury seemed too well placed and nadal almost staged a comeback. Not very believable.

Either way injured fake injured, nadal was fine the first set and was getting absolutely wrecked. He had no solutions for stan. And stan beat the djokonaught on his home ao turf. That alone is not something nadal has ever done. Remeber 2012 ao final? Stan played a higher level and intensity for two years in a row agains novak and won.

Stop taking away from that ao title. He deserved it. I thought stan would win the whole thing as soon as he beat novak. That was probably the most impressive performance I've seen in a long time.

You can defend your china bull (get it because hes a fragile hunk a junk), but dont take away from a player who deserves a lot of admiration. Not just for winning, but showing everyone across the globe what hard work and perserverance can do for you. Even when your age and the doubts are against you.
Oh boy, here we go again. I remember you.

Rafa managed to win a set while injured. What would he have done against Stan un-injured esp considering he had a 11-0 or 12-0 without a lost set against him until then? Case closed.

Nobody said Stan didn't play brilliant tennis several years in a row at AO, or that he didn't deserve that title because of that. Try to READ comments and understand them before replying.
 
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Yes, crap on the guy who has the audacity to believe he could win a Slam. Whether you are a world class playing or a 3.5 hack, who walks into a tennis court without the stones to believe you can win?
This too.
I say good on him, however likely it actually may be.
You must always believe you can win, or you may as well hand in your tour card on the next possible business day.

He's not really trying to be arrogant here I think, he's just trying to set the bar for himself.
 
Most have/had a mentalty problem: Gasquet, Monfils, Leconte, Grosjean...
some dont have that problem IMO: Simon and Tsonga have the mentality to be slam winners. Simon just doesnt have the right game/power to succeed while Tsonga doesnt have the backhand.
Tsonga's backhand is like Roddick's. Their motion are stiff and they don't have great touch on their backhand side. although Tsonga's net play is better than Roddick's
 
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