Monfils vs Djokovic

[Krish872007]

Apparently the last time Djokovic played Monfils was back in 2014 Paris Masters

And that was before Djokovic started to completely dominate the tour again!

Djokovic edged Monfils in a 3rd set tie-break in Canada, then beat him again in Paris.

Wind back to 2010 as well: Djokovic beat Monfils at the US Open and then again at the Davis Cup (France vs Serbia Final) - and this was the beginning of Djokovic's 43 match win streak as he picked up 3 Slams in 2011.

This clearly shows how much of a learning experience it is for anyone to play Monfils - Djokovic has learned so much from these encounters that he's been able to translate this into dominating the tour. Of course, he would have learnt EVEN more had he lost these matches and then he may well have already completed the CYGS!

I'm really looking forward to the next encounter with Monfils now - to see just how much more Djokovic can learn.

 

[NatF]

At first I thought you were trolling but now I think there might be something to this.

Let's not forget after a string of tough matches against Monfils in 2014 - including a tough Davis Cup trashing, Federer emerged in 2015 playing his best ever tennis.

 

[nowhereman]

Monfils, as always, is the benchmark in these things, just like with quality of serve. Rewind to Doha 2006 for example, when he lost to Federer in the final. That match was a great learning experience for Federer and he would go on to have the most dominant season of his career, just like Djokovic in 2015. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[uliks]

Apparently the last time Djokovic played Monfils was back in 2014 Paris Masters

And that was before Djokovic started to completely dominate the tour again!

Djokovic edged Monfils in a 3rd set tie-break in Canada, then beat him again in Paris.

Wind back to 2010 as well: Djokovic beat Monfils at the US Open and then again at the Davis Cup (France vs Serbia Final) - and this was the beginning of Djokovic's 43 match win streak as he picked up 3 Slams in 2011.

This clearly shows how much of a learning experience it is for anyone to play Monfils - Djokovic has learned so much from these encounters that he's been able to translate this into dominating the tour. Of course, he would have learnt EVEN more had he lost these matches and then he may well have already completed the CYGS!

I'm really looking forward to the next encounter with Monfils now - to see just how much more Djokovic can learn.

Monfils didnt help Raonic this week. Maybe he isn't allmighty educator after all!

 

[Krish872007]

Monfils didnt help Raonic this week. Maybe he isn't allmighty educator after all!

Monfils is like God - and as we all know, God only helps those who help themselves.
And Raonic is not yet deserving of a tennis lesson from the greatest teacher and entertainer the world has seen.

 

[sdont]

Gael is a great teacher.

Don't forget how Nadal won AO 2009 and almost won AO 2012 after Monfils beat him in Doha.

 

[Krish872007]

Gael is a great teacher.

Don't forget how Nadal won AO 2009 and almost won AO 2012 after Monfils beat him in Doha.

All true tennis fans remember those two lessons - it's amazing how great and swift the impact of those lessons were on Rafa.

 

[nowhereman]

Here are all the lessons the big three have received after a match against Monfils
Federer: 2006 Doha - beats Monfils in the final, goes on to have his most dominant season
2009 RG - beats Monfils in the quarters, goes on to win his first RG and complete the career grand slam
2010 Paris - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning the WTF anyway
2014 Cincy - beats Monfils, goes on to win his first masters title in 2 years

Nadal: 2005 Monte Carlo - beats Monfils, goes on to win the first of his eight successive titles at the event
2009 Doha - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning his first AO a few weeks later
2010 Madrid - beats Monfils, wins the tournament and all 3 clay masters for the year
2012 Doha - loses to Monfils, but nearly ends up winning the AO, getting to 4-2 in the fifth set of the final
2014 Doha - beats Monfils, nearly goes on to win the AO again, but is stopped by a back injury

Djokovic: 2010 US Open - beats Monfils, goes on to make his first slam final in nearly 3 years
2010 Davis Cup - beats Monfils, goes on to dominate 2011 and goes on a 43 match win streak
2014 Paris - beats Monfils, goes on to win the title, and again dominates the tour next year

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

 

[Krish872007]

Here are all the lessons the big three have received after a match against Monfils
Federer: 2006 Doha - beats Monfils in the final, goes on to have his most dominant season
2009 RG - beats Monfils in the quarters, goes on to win his first RG and complete the career grand slam
2010 Paris - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning the WTF anyway
2014 Cincy - beats Monfils, goes on to win his first masters title in 2 years

Nadal: 2005 Monte Carlo - beats Monfils, goes on to win the first of his eight successive titles at the event
2009 Doha - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning his first AO a few weeks later
2010 Madrid - beats Monfils, wins the tournament and all 3 clay masters for the year
2012 Doha - loses to Monfils, but nearly ends up winning the AO, getting to 4-2 in the fifth set of the final
2014 Doha - beats Monfils, nearly goes on to win the AO again, but is stopped by a back injury

Djokovic: 2010 US Open - beats Monfils, goes on to make his first slam final in nearly 3 years
2010 Davis Cup - beats Monfils, goes on to dominate 2011 and goes on a 43 match win streak
2014 Paris - beats Monfils, goes on to win the title, and again dominates the tour next year

Most of these are absolutely HUGE lessons. Massive credit to Monfils for shaping the modern tennis landscape.

In fact, they should set the following question as an essay in an exam in all schools worldwide (probably in English Language/Literature):

"To what extent has Monfils shaped the modern (21st Century) tennis landscape? Please refer to statistics from the ATP website in your answer."

 

[nowhereman]

Most of these are absolutely HUGE lessons. Massive credit to Monfils for shaping the modern tennis landscape.

In fact, they should set the following question as an essay in an exam in all schools worldwide (probably in English Language/Literature):

"To what extent has Monfils shaped the modern (21st Century) tennis landscape? Please refer to statistics from the ATP website in your answer."

He is the father of tennis after all. The greatest teacher and entertainer of the game.

 

[Krish872007]

He is the father of tennis after all. The greatest teacher and entertainer of the game.

Just one of the many examples Monfils has set for guys like Isner and Federer to follow:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?esp...mg..0.2.208.c-K95KYiBvk#imgrc=BD5Bz3YCJbcXRM:

 

[Doflamingo]

Novak's next lesson:

GG tour

Nole will become truly unbeatable if he can drive backhands and forehands mid-air. Omnipotence. ​

 

[nowhereman]

Just one of the many examples Monfils has set for guys like Isner and Federer to follow:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?espv=2&biw=1366&bih=681&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=gael+monfils+king&oq=gael+monfils+king&gs_l=img.3...13741.14894.0.15616.5.5.0.0.0.0.124.526.2j3.5.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.2.208.c-K95KYiBvk#imgrc=BD5Bz3YCJbcXRM:

If only Murray learned something from his matches against Monfils. So far, in the 6 matches they've played, nothing significant has happened to Murray. Perhaps that's why he hasn't won another slam yet.

 

[Krish872007]

If only Murray learned something from his matches against Monfils. So far, in the 6 matches they've played, nothing significant has happened to Murray. Perhaps that's why he hasn't won another slam yet.

Not everyone is a quick learner, but Murray and Monfils played a 5 set match at Roland Garros in 2014 - and that helped Andy realise his need for improved fitness and guile on the surface and he was able to dominate clay the following season (only lost 1 match in 2015!)

 

[nowhereman]

Not everyone is a quick learner, but Murray and Monfils played a 5 set match at Roland Garros in 2014 - and that helped Andy realise his need for improved fitness and guile on the surface and he was able to dominate clay the following season (only lost 1 match in 2015!)

And don't forget that one match he lost went 5 sets. He is clearly learning more and more each time he faces Monfils. I have a feeling the next match against Monfils will be the thing that will propel him to his 3rd slam.

 

[Krish872007]

And don't forget that one match he lost went 5 sets. He is clearly learning more and more each time he faces Monfils. I have a feeling the next match against Monfils will be the thing that will propel him to his 3rd slam.

I agree - Murray and Monfils have only met once in the last 6 years, so it is imperative that they meet more often for Andy to start sniffing Slams again

 

[metsman]

Wow this is why the TTW membership is invaluable. Just the groundbreaking research and work that goes on here...rivals the Washington Post's uncovery of Watergate! Really great work guys.

 

[nowhereman]

I agree - Murray and Monfils have only met once in the last 6 years, so it is imperative that they meet more often for Andy to start sniffing Slams again

I should a make a thread about this to inform the rest of us here. Be right back.

 

[nowhereman]

Wow this is why the TTW membership is invaluable. Just the groundbreaking research and work that goes on here...rivals the Washington Post's uncovery of Watergate! Really great work guys.

Indeed. If you look at my post above and see all the lessons the big three have received after facing Monfils, it will become clear that Monfils has shaped the modern landscape of tennis significantly.

 

[metsman]

Monfils seems to be the Master Yoda of tennis. May not look that intimidating but when he chooses to fight properly he has wins over peak Federer on fast hard and clay and peak Nadal on hard. But his real talent is as a teacher in training the best.

 

[Krish872007]

Wow this is why the TTW membership is invaluable. Just the groundbreaking research and work that goes on here...rivals the Washington Post's uncovery of Watergate! Really great work guys.

Really useful analysis we have here - in fact, I think they should start charging new users for logging on to TTW to receive our great insights.

 

[nowhereman]

Here are all the lessons the big three have received after a match against Monfils
Federer: 2006 Doha - beats Monfils in the final, goes on to have his most dominant season
2009 RG - beats Monfils in the quarters, goes on to win his first RG and complete the career grand slam
2010 Paris - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning the WTF anyway
2014 Cincy - beats Monfils, goes on to win his first masters title in 2 years

Nadal: 2005 Monte Carlo - beats Monfils, goes on to win the first of his eight successive titles at the event
2009 Doha - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning his first AO a few weeks later
2010 Madrid - beats Monfils, wins the tournament and all 3 clay masters for the year
2012 Doha - loses to Monfils, but nearly ends up winning the AO, getting to 4-2 in the fifth set of the final
2014 Doha - beats Monfils, nearly goes on to win the AO again, but is stopped by a back injury

Djokovic: 2010 US Open - beats Monfils, goes on to make his first slam final in nearly 3 years
2010 Davis Cup - beats Monfils, goes on to dominate 2011 and goes on a 43 match win streak
2014 Paris - beats Monfils, goes on to win the title, and again dominates the tour next year

I forgot 2011 RG for Federer. After he beat Monfils there, he would beat Djokovic and end his 43 match win streak.

 

[Krish872007]

All hail Gael.

 

[mike danny]

Let's not forget at Shanghai 2013. Fed loses to Monfils but it helped him gain his first top 10 win since the AO in Paris masters as well as regrouping nicely in 2014 .

 

[Livedeath]

Novak's next lesson:

GG tour

Nole will become truly unbeatable if he can drive backhands and forehands mid-air. Omnipotence. ​

He would be better off to learn the dive from Becker aka the Becker dive, the original diver

 

[sdont]

I agree - Murray and Monfils have only met once in the last 6 years, so it is imperative that they meet more often for Andy to start sniffing Slams again

Miami organizers have probably read this thread before making the draw.

 

[Bender]

I think Nadal needs to lose hard to Monfils ASAP.

That way he can learn hard and improve by 570%, and therefore get back #1.

 

[Krish872007]

Yep, further undeniable evidence that tennis experts and ATP officials read TTW - they have the spirit of Monfils in them.

 

[nowhereman]

Yep, further undeniable evidence that tennis experts and ATP officials read TTW - they have the spirit of Monfils in them.

Monfils is love, Monfils is life.

 

[Krish872007]

Monfils is love, Monfils is life.

They should rename France to "Monfrance", and rename the English Channel (la Manche) to laMonf.

 

[sdont]

Here are all the lessons the big three have received after a match against Monfils
Federer: 2006 Doha - beats Monfils in the final, goes on to have his most dominant season
2009 RG - beats Monfils in the quarters, goes on to win his first RG and complete the career grand slam
2010 Paris - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning the WTF anyway
2014 Cincy - beats Monfils, goes on to win his first masters title in 2 years

Nadal: 2005 Monte Carlo - beats Monfils, goes on to win the first of his eight successive titles at the event
2009 Doha - loses to Monfils, but ends up winning his first AO a few weeks later
2010 Madrid - beats Monfils, wins the tournament and all 3 clay masters for the year
2012 Doha - loses to Monfils, but nearly ends up winning the AO, getting to 4-2 in the fifth set of the final
2014 Doha - beats Monfils, nearly goes on to win the AO again, but is stopped by a back injury

Djokovic: 2010 US Open - beats Monfils, goes on to make his first slam final in nearly 3 years
2010 Davis Cup - beats Monfils, goes on to dominate 2011 and goes on a 43 match win streak
2014 Paris - beats Monfils, goes on to win the title, and again dominates the tour next year

Federer: 2014 Davis Cup final - loses to Monfils in straights in the 2nd rubber. Wins the doubles and the 4th rubber in straights in the following days.

 

[nowhereman]

Federer: 2014 Davis Cup final - loses to Monfils in straights in the 2nd rubber. Wins the doubles and the 4th rubber in straights in the following days.

Yes, I forgot about this one. This was definitley an important lesson for Federer, one which helped him win the Davis Cup which furthered his legacy. Thank you for reminding me of this.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

He would be better off to learn the dive from Becker aka the Becker dive, the original diver

Coupled with the direction change, that leap was ludicrous though!! No idea how he even had the traction to take flight like that.

 

[Livedeath]

Coupled with the direction change, that leap was ludicrous though!! No idea how he even had the traction to take flight like that.

The way he applied his brakes, and then leaped mid air in opposite direction of his run to get to the ball was indeed ludicrous and awesome at the same time, but in my opinion La Monf gets injured by these antics a lot.
I was wondering if he were to show off these skills on net, he will be a nightmare for players on grass courts, sort of "No ball shall pass"

 

[Krish872007]

Mega-BUMP.

Monte Carlo draw pits The Best Player in Novak Djokovic against Gurufils in a potential Round 3 encounter

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Mega-BUMP.

Monte Carlo draw pits The Best Player in Novak Djokovic against Gurufils in a potential Round 3 encounter

Cygs is coming baby.....

 

[Krish872007]

Cygs is coming baby.....

Perfect preparation.

Here's a wind back to 2011 - their tune-up match at The Real Slam (Cincy) to help Djokovic win the US Open and take home 3 Slams for the year:

 

[Krish872007]

And if anyone doubts the entertainment value of this match-up:

 

[Noelan]

Perfect preparation.

Here's a wind back to 2011 - their tune-up match at The Real Slam (Cincy) to help Djokovic win the US Open and take home 3 Slams for the year:

Monfils face when Novak hit one of scorching winners

Scary stuff from Djok in this match

 

[Krish872007]

Monfils face when Novak hit one of scorching winners

Scary stuff from Djok in this match

Gael is not the only one who can hit those kinds of shots

Love their matches!

 

[nowhereman]

Mega-BUMP.

Monte Carlo draw pits The Best Player in Novak Djokovic against Gurufils in a potential Round 3 encounter

The long wait is over. A CYGS it is for Nole I guess. Nole 3.0 is coming.

 

[Noelan]

 

[Krish872007]

Some of the best aggressive tennis I've ever seen from Novak - that Montreal 2011 match is a masterclass on how to play Monfils

 

[Noelan]

Loved ths pic

 

[Krish872007]

2009 Paris Final - how about 2016 Paris (RG) Final?

 

[Noelan]

It's hardly unlikely to happen

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

2009 Paris Final - how about 2016 Paris (RG) Final?

Would The Guru have mercy like in 2009? If yes, ok.

 

[Nonsense]

It's happening!!

 

[Noelan]

Almost clowned his way to win Canada 2014 R2 match. Peak La Monf antics