MOOAT - Most overated of all time

Nadal! He wouldn't be anywere if it weren't for the roids! ( c'mon we all know he did them nobody can physically play a long 5 setter then come back and play another the next day without getting tired)
 
Results have nothing to do with talent - Talent wise Murray is wayyy above Nadal, and that is a fact.

Really now? I agree they're not the same thing, but they have everything to do with each other. Talent leads to results; if it didn't, what would stop you or me from winning a slam?
 
early career...roddick easily...sampras crushed him when he "contender"

then nalbandian was doing the same following year until done his wrist.

never believe the mainstream US sports media...ridiculous hype on young rod.

eg 5-6slams like many think djoko will end up with.

total career....possibly put coria or ferrero right up there as well.

Where did fererro go post 03, juan carlos fans.

In the early 90's enqvist and medvedev got alot of hype...titles please?

In the late 90's keifer and moya...titles please?

Gulbis and Berdych now obviously...going down same road.
 
Nadal! He wouldn't be anywere if it weren't for the roids! ( c'mon we all know he did them nobody can physically play a long 5 setter then come back and play another the next day without getting tired)

Which is why he never done that.
 
Maximo has been banned...i was reading this topic and his avy suddenly disappeared...

No player is really overrated..some are disappointing (Safin, Gasquet for ex) but never overrated because they get a lot of flack for their disappointing results.
 
Nadal.

For me he is just a one trick pony. Can't believe so many people obsessed with him and claiming he is goat. All the times he has beaten Federer, fed played horribly with like 50% first serve in. Compare that to the Roddick game 70% aces..

For me Federer is overrated because it only takes a "one trick pony" to beat him. Whatever happened to that "multi-talented player" everyone is whining about? Can't believe the people who thinks he is the goat when his balls shrunk tenfolds all those times he lost to Nadal.


I think it is spanish media. They like to hype therec athletes to heaven, On a Formula 1 forum I frequented it was the same thing with Fernando Alonso. They are religious in their idolization.

Yeah, it's the spanish media that rules the world, with aim to make the whole world idolize Nadal. What do you care if Nadal fans think he is the best?


I guess if you've got no talent just play left-handed to throw your opponent off.

That proves Federer might have achieved most but no way the best player ever. You don't need talent to beat him. All you need is play with your left hand to throw him off, according to you.
 
Nadal.

For me he is just a one trick pony. Can't believe so many people obsessed with him and claiming he is goat. All the times he has beaten Federer, fed played horribly with like 50% first serve in. Compare that to the Roddick game 70% aces.

I think it is spanish media. They like to hype therec athletes to heaven, On a Formula 1 forum I frequented it was the same thing with Fernando Alonso. They are religious in their idolization.

I guess if you've got no talent just play left-handed to throw your opponent off.

This is utter rubbish. I am a big Fed fan, but you got give credit where it is due. The reason for Fed's low first serve % is because Nadal forcing Fed to go for more aces. If you play against someone who makes you uncomfortable, your serve, along with the rest of your game, will break down.

I still believe Fed is a better tennis player than Nadal despite their h2h stat, but Fed's inability to handle Rafa's topspin fh to his bh is what contributes his miserable serving when playing Rafa.
 
For me Federer is overrated because it only takes a "one trick pony" to beat him. Whatever happened to that "multi-talented player" everyone is whining about? Can't believe the people who thinks he is the goat when his balls shrunk tenfolds all those times he lost to Nadal.

Yeah, it's the spanish media that rules the world, with aim to make the whole world idolize Nadal. What do you care if Nadal fans think he is the best?

That proves Federer might have achieved most but no way the best player ever. You don't need talent to beat him. All you need is play with your left hand to throw him off, according to you.
I do like Nadal. I do think he could make a strong attack on the GOAT title when he reaches 15+ slams. What I don't understand is why his fanboys are so utterly ******** compared to other fanboys on this forum?
 
I do like Nadal. I do think he could make a strong attack on the GOAT title when he reaches 15+ slams. What I don't understand is why his fanboys are so utterly ******** compared to other fanboys on this forum?

You do like Nadal? Are you ********? According to you he has no talent, overrated, a one trick pony and basically everyone in the whole freakin' world with a racket is better than him.

I'm a Nadal fan but I don't start threads discussing how good he is or how bad the other players are. You on the hand opened an account just to bash Nadal and his fans, now that is ********. In fact the you are the biggest ****** we have in this forum.
 
Wow all you fanboys sound like complete idiots. Federer and nadal are both great players. Even though I'm a federer fan I respect nadals fighting spirit and his massive topspin. It takes a great player to beat the greatest of all time who IMHO is federer.
 
You do like Nadal? Are you ********? According to you he has no talent, overrated, a one trick pony and basically everyone in the whole freakin' world with a racket is better than him.
No I think Nadal is ranked #2 on the ATP rank and I respect that. I didn't mean Nadal have no talent. It is common knowledge Nadal excels at clay and has been successful on other surfaces in slams and it is due to his playing style of running down every ball. I don't ever see him serving like roddick or volleying like edberg like federer do. I believe much of OMFG!! NADAL IS GOAT NOT LAVER is due to his left-handed play suitable against federer.

I'm a Nadal fan but I don't start threads discussing how good he is or how bad the other players are. You on the hand opened an account just to bash Nadal and his fans, now that is ********. In fact the you are the biggest ****** we have in this forum.
No I didn't - I respect Nadal. But his fans like you are the continuously embarrasing Nadal by showing your '****ity. Why do you constantly blame injuries for Nadals losses? Talk down Söderlings achievements? Nadal fans on this forum is horse dung. And no I didn't start this account to talk down Nadal but it is the natural occurence that you get in conflict with Nadal fans because the majority of Nadal fans are full blown retards who can never discuss anything honestly.
 
No I think Nadal is ranked #2 on the ATP rank and I respect that. I didn't mean Nadal have no talent. It is common knowledge Nadal excels at clay and has been successful on other surfaces in slams and it is due to his playing style of running down every ball. ..

But Federer runs down every ball as well, he has amazing defense. What do you want Nadal do, let every ball pass by him?


I don't ever see him serving like roddick or volleying like edberg like federer do. I believe much of OMFG!! NADAL IS GOAT NOT LAVER is due to his left-handed play suitable against federer..

Where has Roddick serve taken him? Maybe he should play more like Nadal so that he can win more than one slam. Nobody today volleys like Stefan. You are an idiot if you think Federer can. The ATP is not only about Federer in case you didn't know. Nadal has a winning record against everyone in the top 10.

There are probably some Nadal fans who joke around claiming he is GOAT. I've been here long enough to know that there are probably 2 or three guys who did that, and it makes you mad because you want everyone to worship Federer. If that's the case, I hope these few individuals never stop doing that, and hopefully it drives you even more insane.


No I didn't - I respect Nadal. But his fans like you are the continuously embarrasing Nadal by showing your '****ity. Why do you constantly blame injuries for Nadals losses? Talk down Söderlings achievements? Nadal fans on this forum is horse dung. And no I didn't start this account to talk down Nadal but it is the natural occurence that you get in conflict with Nadal fans because the majority of Nadal fans are full blown retards who can never discuss anything honestly.

Did you hear what Birger Folke and Rolf Nordberg said during Nadal's 1st or second round match at the FO? They said Nadal's knees have not fully recovered after the Djokovic match in Madrid where he had cortisone shots on both knees directly after the match. They didn't think it would carry him to the FO title.

No. I don't make excuses for every Nadal's loss. Tsonga outplayed him last year at the AO and Gonzales the year before that. Nalbandian crushed him twice indoors. Federer has beaten him fair and square, twice at wimbledon and Hamburg, and twice at the YEC. Murray has outplayed him a couple of times and so has Djokovic and there a couple more where he was fully fit and got beaten.

Did Söderling outplay a healthy Nadal at the FO? HELL NO!!

If you think some Nadal fans are ******** for claiming Nadal is the GOAT, then that's nothing compared to what you said here:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3716046&postcount=83


Söderling will win the calendar slam next year? Du har verkligen förgiftat tråden med dina trams!:)
 
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MOOAT is Marat Safin, or at least he was MOOAT here on this board.

I remember at some point, there was constant adulation for Marat to the point of almost reaching mythical proportions. All this because he had a handful of memorable matches.
 
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