Most evenly spaced 18 main racquet

zipplock

Semi-Pro
Hey All,
Which 18 main racquet between 97-100 has the most evenly spaced, or uniform string pattern? I can find a definitive answer. Maybe one of you or the TW Staff has the answer.
Thanks in advance.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
The thought is that more even spacing will equal a more even response across the string bed. Maybe wrong, but that's the idea.
Feel free to try it out, but there is more natural power in the center of the stringbed, so players usually want it denser at the center for more control.

The 360 Speed Pro has a more even spacing 18 M as well.
 

zipplock

Semi-Pro
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Feel free to try it out, but there is more natural power in the center of the stringbed, so players usually want it denser at the center for more control.

The 360 Speed Pro has a more even spacing 18 M as well.
Thanks for the suggestion. I guess maybe I'm thinking about forgiveness for than power, while still playing with a player-ish frame.
 

SumYungGai

Semi-Pro
Feel free to try it out, but there is more natural power in the center of the stringbed, so players usually want it denser at the center for more control.

The 360 Speed Pro has a more even spacing 18 M as well.
This was the main reason I got the speed pro. I wanted another 18x20 but not super dense. It fits the bill and plays very consistently, tho it is still very weak outside the strike zone.
 

zipplock

Semi-Pro
This was the main reason I got the speed pro. I wanted another 18x20 but not super dense. It fits the bill and plays very consistently, tho it is still very weak outside the strike zone.
Cool. Just added it to my demo. Got the Prince Tour 100P and Phantom 100P and the Head 360 Speed Pro. Excited to hit with them next week. Thanks for seconding the recommendation.
 

SumYungGai

Semi-Pro
Cool. Just added it to my demo. Got the Prince Tour 100P and Phantom 100P and the Head 360 Speed Pro. Excited to hit with them next week. Thanks for seconding the recommendation.
I will say that the Tour 100P is also a great racquet. It was a hard decision but I got a deal on the speeds. Haven't tried the phantom but heard good things. Have fun!
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
The thought is that more even spacing will equal a more even response across the string bed. Maybe wrong, but that's the idea.
That's the wrong thinking. As you move from the sweetspot the power levels of the string bed drop significantly so wider spacing will provide more string movement to increase power response over the area. Wider spaces will also provide less twist force on off center hits since less string bed is being hit by the ball in those areas. So theoretically to have a bigger sweetspot with more even response there should be tighter spacing in the center to add control to the most powerful section of the string bed and then less tight spacing moving away from that spot to add some power and lower twist forces.
 

zipplock

Semi-Pro
That's the wrong thinking. As you move from the sweetspot the power levels of the string bed drop significantly so wider spacing will provide more string movement to increase power response over the area. Wider spaces will also provide less twist force on off center hits since less string bed is being hit by the ball in those areas. So theoretically to have a bigger sweetspot with more even response there should be tighter spacing in the center to add control to the most powerful section of the string bed and then less tight spacing moving away from that spot to add some power and lower twist forces.
Interesting. I wasn't thinking of power at all, just the same control across the string bed. I get that power will drop outside the center, but wouldn't the control stay the same if the string bed was the same everywhere?
 

esgee48

Legend
@Dartagnan64 is correct. You need forgiveness out near the edges of the frame and denser patterns near the center where the sweetspot is for control. That is the whole intent of FSI/FST drill patterns. What you forgot is that the mains and crosses are much shorter near the sides and top/bottom of the frame. Marry this with restrictions on string movement and you have a recipe for NO control/very uneven responses. Wider spacing on strings located out there provide the forgivenss on "mis-hits."
 

zipplock

Semi-Pro
@Dartagnan64 is correct. You need forgiveness out near the edges of the frame and denser patterns near the center where the sweetspot is for control. That is the whole intent of FSI/FST drill patterns. What you forgot is that the mains and crosses are much shorter near the sides and top/bottom of the frame. Marry this with restrictions on string movement and you have a recipe for NO control/very uneven responses. Wider spacing on strings located out there provide the forgivenss on "mis-hits."
Thanks for the info. Makes sense.
 

zipplock

Semi-Pro
So, I received the demo racquets today and hit with my kid. Of the Head and 2 Prince racquets, I liked the Head the least. I'm a low tension poly guy and this was strung tight, so I'm sure that played into it. Overall, the head provided no feel. It was just bash bash bash.
Of the 2 Princes, I preferred the Phantom Pro 100P to the Tour 100P, and I was surprised. I thought I would prefer the Tour 100P because of the 18x20 pattern, but I was getting crazy directional control and spin with the Phantom 100P. I was NOT expecting the control and spin. The craziest thing was getting the spin with a lower launch angle. I get massive spin with my Steam 99S, but the launch angle is super high.
I am very intrigued by this Phantom 100P. I have a match tomorrow and I'll play the Phantom. I did add some weight to the handle under the butt cap to get it to 12 oz and 8 HL. Racquet feels very stable.
 

blablavla

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the info. Makes sense.
the other thing to consider, less strings that enter in contact with the ball, provide not only increased power level at the expense of control, but as well more spin as opposed to a denser pattern.
so, if in your case control = spin, then a more "open pattern" will translate into more spin / control.
 

Zoolander

Hall of Fame
Im with op, i like the consistency of evenly spaced mains and crosses. 18*20 is not so bad but in 16*18 or 16*19 if they are variably spaced it can be really unpredictable.
 

graycrait

Hall of Fame
OP should do like I did and just for educational purposes, buy a PK Micro Mid 93" 22x30 pattern that takes 24' of string in the mains and 23' in the crosses. Recommended string tension is something like 28-40 and one post I saw said that 40lbs in the Micro Mid is like 75lbs in a "normal" racket.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Interesting. I wasn't thinking of power at all, just the same control across the string bed. I get that power will drop outside the center, but wouldn't the control stay the same if the string bed was the same everywhere?
The biggest thing that affects control off center is the twistweight and string density. Higher TW and lower density will reduced deflective forces on off center hits and provide better control.
 
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