Most impressive sweep: Rafa clay 2010 or Nole hc 2011

[Dutch-Guy]

Rafa clay sweep 2010:

-French Open
-Monte Carlo
-Rome
-Madrid

Side note: He didn't drop a set in RG and MC.

Djokovic hard court sweep 2011:

-Australian Open
-Dubai
-Indian Wells
-Miami

Side note: He handed out more breadsticks and bagels in Indian Wells and Miami than any other player in both draws combined.

 

[Pozarevacka]

Rafa clay sweep 2010:

-French Open
-Monte Carlo
-Rome
-Madrid

Side note: He didn't drop a set in RG and MC.

Djokovic hard court sweep 2011:

-Australian Open
-Doha
-Indian Wells
-Miami

Side note: He didn't drop a set in Doha

Wasn't Doha, it was Dubai.

 

[cc0509]

Rafa clay sweep 2010:

-French Open
-Monte Carlo
-Rome
-Madrid

Side note: He didn't drop a set in RG and MC.

Djokovic hard court sweep 2011:

-Australian Open
-Doha
-Indian Wells
-Miami

Side note: He didn't drop a set in Doha

Forget these tournaments, it is the fact that Rafa has 5 FO titles on clay and Djokovic has 2 HC slams (AO), that makes Rafa way more impressive than Djokovic thus far.

 

[Totai]

I would have to say Djoker's HC sweep. There are many more proficient HC players than clay players, which make winning on HC a tad harder. Plus, he had to beat Federer 3 times, Nadal twice and Murray on a final to get his victories.

I don't think Nadal had many palyers in the top 10 in his sweep... plus, we all remember that super thrilling Monte Carlo final last year..

 

[Cup8489]

I voted both equally, but i honestly think that Rafa's sweep was more difficult just because of how grueling playing 4 major tournaments on clay can be.

 

[Chenx15]

rafa is more impressive, and just the fact that he made it look so easy was fantastic

 

[PSNELKE]

I voted for Nole´s streak since it´s unlikely that this streak will continue in August and he had a lot of decent and great HC players on his way to the victories.
We all know that Ralph is the king of clay and that it isn´t too hard for him to win those tourney´s since there´s no real CC specialist who could trouble him.
I think Nole´s streak is incredible and unlikely that someone would do this again on HC since there are way more strong competitors on clay than on HC.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Rome is much more prestigious than Dubai
AO is just a bit less prestigious, and less difficult than the FO
Rafa's

 

[aphex]

Clearly Djokovic's.

There were no Verdascoes in any of the finals.

 

[shanked_it]

AO is just a bit less prestigious, and less difficult than the FO

Oh this makes alot of sense....

Is it less difficult for just Djoko or everyone else too? Or how does this pan out? Sorry but I kind of got mixed up here...

 

[single_handed_champion]

Clearly Nadal. He beat Verdasco and Ferrer in the middle of fantastic claycourt seasons, Federer and Soderling who wiped out a quality field at RG. Djokovic beat old and slow ********, puffball Murray who never got out of bed, moonballing Nadal and nobody with any real momentum during this part of the season.

 

[batz]

I'm going to say Rafa by a bawhair - he won 3 consecutive MS - the first person to do so.

 

[iriraz]

I would go for Djokovic.If someone would have said that Nadal would win all big clay tourneys in a year everyone would agree it is a big possibility but no one would have gone for Djokovic winning AO,IW and Miami.Nadal has proven he can play lots of matches and win big titles in a short period of time but with Djokovic it was tough to predict as either he looses to a better player on the day or wins a big tourney and is exhausted for the next

 

[MagneticCurls]

Clearly Djokobic's is more impressive. The HC field is much more deep than the clay. Nadal really only had Federer all those years, a guy with whom he has a big matchup advantage. Nadal's streak isn't really that impressive given all of the spanish players who bend over for him time and time again.

 

[Tennis sensation]

I would say Rafa's streak was better but just by a whisker.

 

[PSNELKE]

I would go for Djokovic.If someone would have said that Nadal would win all big clay tourneys in a year everyone would agree it is a big possibility but no one would have gone for Djokovic winning AO,IW and Miami.Nadal has proven he can play lots of matches and win big titles in a short period of time but with Djokovic it was tough to predict as either he looses to a better player on the day or wins a big tourney and is exhausted for the next

Exactly my thoughts. I mea Ralph had to deal also with his lapdogs Tobasco and Ferrer, Nole had to deal with Ralph and Fed at IW and with Ralph in a long final in Miami.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Oh this makes alot of sense....

Is it less difficult for just Djoko or everyone else too? Or how does this pan out? Sorry but I kind of got mixed up here...

AO is less difficult than the FO: for Djoko, for Federer, for Sampras and everybody else (except Nadal and Kuerten), learn some history, man ...

AO is also more recent at the top level, only really since the 80s, Mac didn't even play it.

 

[GasquetGOAT]

I'm going to say Rafa by a bawhair - he won 3 consecutive MS - the first person to do so.

Looking at Dubai's draw, it was just as difficult to win if not more difficult than any clay masters. Only 500 in status but the field was one of the strongest of all best of three sets tournaments.

 

[GasquetGOAT]

On the topic, I'd pick Djoko.

 

[PSNELKE]

Looking at Dubai's draw, it was just as difficult to win if not more difficult than any clay masters. Only 500 in status but the field was one of the strongest of all best of three sets tournaments.

I also voted for Nole but this is not true.

 

[Dutch-Guy]

I would go for Djokovic.If someone would have said that Nadal would win all big clay tourneys in a year everyone would agree it is a big possibility but no one would have gone for Djokovic winning AO,IW and Miami.Nadal has proven he can play lots of matches and win big titles in a short period of time but with Djokovic it was tough to predict as either he looses to a better player on the day or wins a big tourney and is exhausted for the next

Why not? Since Djoko is a better hc player than Nadal.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

What Nadal did has been achieved only once in history and that's a much longer history, as IW and Miami are only since 1985, while Rome and Monte Carlo have been around for ever, close to one hundred years.

What Djoko did has been achieved if memory serves 3 times since 1990 (AO, IW, Miami); OK, add Dubai, but that's not on the level with Rome then, and not an MS anyway

 

[Lemoned]

Djokovic hard court sweep 2011:

-Australian Open
-Doha
-Indian Wells
-Miami

Side note: He didn't drop a set in Doha

It was Dubai and he dropped 2 sets. 1 to Feli, 1 to Berdych

 

[MichaelNadal]

rafa is more impressive, and just the fact that he made it look so easy was fantastic

I agree, he was more dominant, and no one had ever won 3 straight MS before. Not to mention he never lost a set.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

I agree, he was more dominant, and no one had ever won 3 straight MS before.

Plus a GS.

 

[cknobman]

I agree, he was more dominant, and no one had ever won 3 straight MS before. Not to mention he never lost a set.

Lets go out on a limb here and say that by some miracle Djokovic wins Monte Carlo, then hands down Djokovic's streak will be more impressive.

Right now its just about neck and neck with maybe a slight tip to Djoker because of the multiple and consecutive wins over both Rafa and Roger.

 

[The-Champ]

Lets go out on a limb here and say that by some miracle Djokovic wins Monte Carlo, then hands down Djokovic's streak will be more impressive.

Right now its just about neck and neck with maybe a slight tip to Djoker because of the multiple and consecutive wins over both Rafa and Roger.

so its about people you play then, not the titles?

 

[Pozarevacka]

Forget these tournaments, it is the fact that Rafa has 5 FO titles on clay and Djokovic has 2 HC slams (AO), that makes Rafa way more impressive than Djokovic thus far.

I think the question was each streak. We can continue what you are saying and say that what Rafa is doing is nothing compared to Roger's 16 GS titles, 23 Semis in a row, 3 different occasions having an opportunity at the calendar slam.

 

[NoleDjoko]

I choose nole sweep not because iam a fan but because most of the top players are better hardcourters than claycourters and the fact that djokovic beat rafa roger murray berdi in HC makes it bigger acheivment

 

[cknobman]

so its about people you play then, not the titles?

Nope if you look at Djoko's titles they are just about as impressive as Rafa's. Of course 1 of those for Djoker is ATP 500 where Rafa's is a Masters but that is where I go to the player/competition breakdown.

 

[Frankauc]

equally impressive

 

[tennisdad65]

I voted Nole. Maybe because I take Nadal for granted on clay

 

[Zildite]

I agree, he was more dominant, and no one had ever won 3 straight MS before. Not to mention he never lost a set.

He lost 2 sets. One to Gublis in Rome and the other to Almagro in Madrid.
Not that it isn't still very impressive

 

[Polvorin]

Rafa's biggest competition on clay is a guy whose worst surface is clay. Based on the difficulty of the competition I'd have to say Djokovic's feat is a bit more impressive.

 

[Tony48]

They were both impressive sweeps but everyone expected Nadal to clean up on clay. With Djokovic, it was more of a surprise.

 

[cc0509]

I think the question was each streak. We can continue what you are saying and say that what Rafa is doing is nothing compared to Roger's 16 GS titles, 23 Semis in a row, 3 different occasions having an opportunity at the calendar slam.

Yes, I can read, thank you. I just think that both streaks are equally impressive so I took the liberty of answering the question my own way.

 

[TennisAddict121]

I agree, he was more dominant, and no one had ever won 3 straight MS before. Not to mention he never lost a set.

He lost 2 sets actually 1 to Almagro and 1 to Gulbis

I think they are both tremendous achievements and anyone that tries to belittle either of these players runs is flat out ********.

Nadal won 3 masters in a row which is amazing because nobody ever did it before.

But to belittle Djokovic is stupid. Winning 24 matches in the beginning of the season is incredible, considering how many players lose early in the beginning of the year because they are not match tough. The whole argument of RG and the clay masters having more prestige means nothing, it makes you just sound bitter. They are equal, the end.

 

[The-Champ]

Rafa's biggest competition on clay is a guy whose worst surface is clay. Based on the difficulty of the competition I'd have to say Djokovic's feat is a bit more impressive.

did you mean federer?

everyone's worst surface is clay when facing nadal on it.

 

[Murrayfan31]

Djokovic's accomplishment is way more impressive.

 

[stringertom]

Bottle of White, Bottle of Red

Djok bcoz: 3 continents, almost 3 months, plays the major first instead of last, two 96-draws, much more varied conditions and here's the trump: beat world #1 twice in a row to close the sweep. It's a no-brainer!

 

[GOAT BAAH!!!]

Nadal stands alone in history with the achievement of the 2010 clay season.

The most impressive is Murray's streak of early exits. Can he keep that going for the books?

 

[sdont]

Given MC's draw last year, it wasn't more difficult to win than a 500 tournament like Dubai.

Overall, the quality of opponents gives the edge to Nole, even though it's close.

Moreover 24 straight wins>22.

Nadal's sweep seems more impressive because he followed it by winning W. But that's it.

 

[Carsomyr]

Both are equally impressive. However, to me at least, the hard court field is more competitive and Djokovic beat one of two (or both) of the best players of all time in each victory.

 

[Agassifan]

Djoker . Easily.. because there are a few players that are good on hard courts.

 

[Polvorin]

did you mean federer?

everyone's worst surface is clay when facing nadal on it.

Yes, I meant Federer. Clay being his worst surface has nothing to do with Nadal. It has always been his weakest surface although he is still one of the best on it.

 

[namelessone]

Djok bcoz: 3 continents, almost 3 months, plays the major first instead of last, two 96-draws, much more varied conditions and here's the trump: beat world #1 twice in a row to close the sweep. It's a no-brainer!

LOL, how does continents fit into how impressive it is?

Or how long? Nadal's clay streak lasted from 10 Apr - 6 Jun 2010, that's a 56 day span. He played 4 tourneys, MC,Rome,Madrid,RG. Nadal won 3 MS + 1 GS.

Djoker's HC streak started 17 January - 4th April 2011, 76 days.
Djoker also played 4 tourneys, AO,Dubai,IW,Miami. Djoker won 2 MS + 1 GS + 1 500 event.

I don't get the more varied conditions for Djoker. IW and AO play pretty much the same court wise, only it's a bit more windy in IW and Miami is also slow HC, only with a more sandpaper'ish feel.

For Nadal's streak he also has windy conditions in MC depending on the day(see this year in Ljubicic match for examle) and the clay speed differs quite a bit, MC being molases slow, Rome and Madrid being faster and RG falling somewhere in between.

As for the nr.1 bit. The saying goes that Nadal was beating Fed(in Madrid),a nr.1 whose worse surface is clay. Ok. Well, turns out that Djoker beat in his streak Nadal twice, whose worse surface is HC. Imagine that.

Nadal had to beat hyped up nightmare soderling in RG final(imagine the pressure for a loss there), in straights no less and took revenge on Fed in Madrid. Not to mention the HUGE pressure he had coming in(plus his form at the time was questionable and he had knee problems in Miami)to defend, not having won a title in like 11 months whereas Nole came into his streak with no little to no pressure(pressure was on Rafa in AO 2011) with a mental boom after winning DC.

 

[DjokerIsTheBest]

LOL, how does continents fit into how impressive it is?

Or how long? Nadal's clay streak lasted from 10 Apr - 6 Jun 2010, that's a 56 day span. He played 4 tourneys, MC,Rome,Madrid,RG. Nadal won 3 MS + 1 GS.

Djoker's HC streak started 17 January - 4th April 2011, 76 days.
Djoker also played 4 tourneys, AO,Dubai,IW,Miami. Djoker won 2 MS + 1 GS + 1 500 event.

I don't get the more varied conditions for Djoker. IW and AO play pretty much the same court wise, only it's a bit more windy in IW and Miami is also slow HC, only with a more sandpaper'ish feel.

For Nadal's streak he also has windy conditions in MC depending on the day(see this year in Ljubicic match for examle) and the clay speed differs quite a bit, MC being molases slow, Rome and Madrid being faster and RG falling somewhere in between.

As for the nr.1 bit. The saying goes that Nadal was beating Fed(in Madrid),a nr.1 whose worse surface is clay. Ok. Well, turns out that Djoker beat in his streak Nadal twice, whose worse surface is HC. Imagine that.

Nadal had to beat hyped up nightmare soderling in RG final(imagine the pressure for a loss there), in straights no less and took revenge on Fed in Madrid. Not to mention the HUGE pressure he had coming in(plus his form at the time was questionable and he had knee problems in Miami)to defend, not having won a title in like 11 months whereas Nole came into his streak with no little to no pressure(pressure was on Rafa in AO 2011) with a mental boom after winning DC.

HC field has much more depth. Djoker much more impressive than beating a bunch of spaniards who bend over for their country mate.

 

[MichaelNadal]

HC field has much more depth. Djoker much more impressive than beating a bunch of spaniards who bend over for their country mate.

10char.

 

[namelessone]

HC field has much more depth. Djoker much more impressive than beating a bunch of spaniards who bend over for their country mate.

 

[powerangle]

The competition was relatively more difficult for Djokovic so he may get the nod in that respect. But honestly I was more "awed" by Nadal's clay achievements last year. No other player has done the clay sweep and the fact that they were 4 major tournaments in a row made it feel like it had more weight and/or historical perspective. For Djokovic's hard court sweep, Fed already came close just a few years ago (2006), only faltering in the finals of Dubai in a 3-setter to his bad-matchup nemesis.