Moving from a Pure "Control"

Hey all, just looking for some advice on a prospective new stick to replace my pure control standards, the first of which cracked under minimal duress and the second which was recently removed from my possession: an omen for change I feel ;) In my next racket I'm looking for a more control oriented offering as compared to the ineptly named pure "control" standard which I found to be quite powerful. I feel that I could handle some extra weight and have enjoyed a successful partnership with Prince sticks if this is any help. I'm around a 5.0, all-court type game reliant on angles and dropshots etc., considerable spin and lots of variety. Thanks in advance
 

cghipp

Professional
I would recommend trying the 03 Tour Mid, which offers lots of control but does take a decently powerful stroke to get a hard serve. I wasn't strong enough to stick with it, but I'm sure you're much stronger than I am. Also, give the Volkl DNX 10 Mid a try. It's a great racquet for control and spin, and I hit the best serves of my life with it. I ended up with the Pro Kennex Ki 5, which is a very nice control-oriented racquet, but probably not as heavy as you're looking for. You may also like the Head FP Prestige Mid. I wasn't too crazy about it because I liked my i.Prestige better, but it's a nicely weighted, extremely control-oriented racquet.

Edited to add: I haven't tried the O3 Hybrid Tour, but if you're a Prince fan it looks like a good one for you to demo.

Oh, one more thing: You might like the PK Ki 5 PSE. I forgot about that version!
 

Duzza

Legend
Hmm if you're 5.0 why not try the POG? Also maybe the PS 85, a lot more control oriented/less power than those Pure Controls.
 

Kevo

Legend
I actually like the Pure Storm better than the Pure Control. The *Control* seemed quite a bit more powerful. It was nice for serves, but I find much better control on ground strokes with the Storm. I also tried a lot of other frames like the DNX 10 mid, RDS 001 mid, I could go on, but I thought the Storm had the best combination of control and feel. I actually switched from the RDX 500 mid which I still think beats all the others. The problem for me was I was getting a little too much power from it as well. It had the best accuracy of any frame I've tried though. I would frequently hit 3 or 4 lines in a point with it. The Pure Storm doesn't quite have that accuracy.


Edited to fix that second sentence. I wrote Storm was more powerful, but meant Control.
 

Voltron

Hall of Fame
Kevo said:
I actually like the Pure Storm better than the Pure Control. The Storm seemed quite a bit more powerful. It was nice for serves, but I find much better control on ground strokes with the Storm. I also tried a lot of other frames like the DNX 10 mid, RDS 001 mid, I could go on, but I thought the Storm had the best combination of control and feel. I actually switched from the RDX 500 mid which I still think beats all the others. The problem for me was I was getting a little too much power from it as well. It had the best accuracy of any frame I've tried though. I would frequently hit 3 or 4 lines in a point with it. The Pure Storm doesn't quite have that accuracy.
I'm changing from the storm actually. I'm getting several RDS 001 mids, much better control I think.
 

Kevo

Legend
Voltron said:
I'm changing from the storm actually. I'm getting several RDS 001 mids, much better control I think.
By control do you mean opposite of power, or do you just mean that it's more precise in direction? I thought the RDS had more power than the Storm. It could have been the way it was strung though.
 

Voltron

Hall of Fame
Kevo said:
By control do you mean opposite of power, or do you just mean that it's more precise in direction? I thought the RDS had more power than the Storm. It could have been the way it was strung though.
I found it had less power than the storm, also more directional control, better on the serve, more touch, better volleys, better stability, just all around better. I love it, I was offered one strung with gut for $90...HELL YEAH!!!!!!
 

SFrazeur

Legend
Voltron said:
I personally don't like wilsons, mostly because the play kinda boardy.
Wilsons are thick and more stiff than say; Heads player racquets. So I can understand those feelings you have. By chance; have you only plyed with 18x20 wilson racquets?
 

Kevo

Legend
Voltron said:
Admit it, the storm is terrible on the serve.
I am actually having some good results with it on the serve. It took me a little bit of time practicing, maybe 6-8 buckets worth, but now that I'm used to the lighter weight and different feel I am serving quite well with it. I can finally generate the same level of spin and pace that I could with my RDX. The problem was mainly the timing difference. I wasn't hitting the ball when and where I wanted to. I was quite pleased with my last practice. A guy on the next court asked me if it was any fun hitting them in all the time.
 

Kevo

Legend
Voltron said:
I found it had less power than the storm, also more directional control, better on the serve, more touch, better volleys, better stability, just all around better. I love it, I was offered one strung with gut for $90...HELL YEAH!!!!!!
Well gut string in a racquet significantly changes the equation. It's interesting that you found the RDS 001 less powerful. It's stiffer and heavier. It seems like it should be more powerful. Anyway, it's a really nice frame. Hope you do well with it.
 

ragnaROK

Professional
I used to play with a Pure Control and I think a great step up from that racket would be a ncode 95, very similar but with more heft and stability and volleys a hell lot better than the Pure Controls. As for myself, I opted for something extreme and started to use the Prestige Classics. Don't ask why because I don't know, but I do know I enjoy the Prestiges a lot.
 
Thanks for all the great advice guys, much appreciated. I have been considering the POG very seriously however it is difficult to get a demo as I live in Oz and the racket isn't exactly hot off the press. I might also consider the O3 tour mid as I've seen it in my local shop. I've played with both the wilsons, 90 and 95. I didn't mind them but I wasn't exactly hooked either. On your advice I think I'll also give the DNX 10 and RDS 001 mids a whirl too. My main problem with my PCST is that I lack the directional control I'm used to and my volleys have suffered a lot too. Also the stiffness of the stick forced me, as I play with ALU power rough, to string loose so as to avoid arm pain which further added to the power problem. Thanks again for all the help and if you can think of any other alternatives I would be most appreciative. Cheers
 

andrew_b

Rookie
I went from Dunlop 200G (several generations worth) to the Pure Control+. 200G have similar balance and weight, not quite as much "pop" as the PC+. Might be worth trying, especially with the prices so low for them now!

I also considered an M-Fil 300 with weight to make it closer to the 200G, but didn't get to it once I found the PC+

play well,
Andrew
 
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