Multi mains / poly crosses spin and string friction

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  1. Issle

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    I'm playing with a textreme warrior 107T racquet ( NTRP 3.5 player ) and I've tested plenty of string setups from full multi to full poly and hybrids. It turns out that at my current level a hybrid setup helps me achieve great depth with my shots, forgiving contact, comfort and easy access to spin.

    I'm using Head fibergel power 16 in mains (26kg) and Luxilon Adrenaline 16 in crosses (24 kg). The setup helps me a lot but it doesn't last long. After about twenty hours of play the mains get notched pretty hard and their elasticity and tension seems to fade away as they move all over the stringbed. What I also notice is that after about twenty hours of play my shots start getting flatter and I get way too much power. I usually restring every two weeks since I play about 2 hours a day.

    I was wondering if I could get something more out of my strings if I switch to a higher quality multifilament main and poly cross. During my search in TWU string tool I found some data that I could not explain and I wonder if anyone could help me.

    What I'm looking at is for :

    1)A multifillament with good tension maintenance and as low as possible string-to-string friction.

    I found the Wilson NXT string having good tension maintenance based on the data but the different varieties of the string seem to have a completlely different string-to-string friction levels. For example Wilson NXT 15L seems to be much more slippery than Wilson NXT 17 based on the TWU data. Also the variations of NXT such as NXT control, NXT power, NXT tour seem to also have a wide difference in string-to-string friction when compared to each other. Could it possibly be that the data are incorrect or am I not getting something ?

    2)A poly with lower than 200 stiffness (to prevent too easy sawing of the mains) and very low string-to-string friction.

    Contrary to the pattern I saw in NXT in the multifillament category where thicker gauges seem to be more slippery, it seems that in poly thicker strings have more friction which also puzzles me.

    EDIT: Seems I posted in the wrong section, should be moved into Strings sub-board, my bad.
     
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  2. esgee48

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    Your hybrid is doing well to get 20 hours. Your issue is the coatings on multis will always get worn out by the surface of the any poly. That surface is always harder more durable that any multi. Once the multis' coating goes, the rubbing starts to eat into the mains (notches) and eventually, the mains break. That's good because your poly loses what little elasticity it has by hour 12-16. Best hybrids use thicker round polyesters. Not shaped as the edges cut into the mains much more quickly. The COF in TWU are FB string to string, i.e. poly main/poly crosses. Use the numbers only a guides in you want a semi slippery main and a real slippery cross. You do not want a really thin poly cross as that will cut into mains faster than a thicker poly cross relative to the mains. For example, 15L NG and 18 Ga poly does not make any sense. 15L NG and 16 Ga poly does.

    If you want a slippery cross, Zyex [non poly] is your candidate. Anything with that cross will glide and it is more durable than any other material out there currently. It is brittle, but if you can get it strung, it will last.
     
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  3. fjcamry

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    The 18g (1.15) round poly crosses isn’t cutting through my 16g multi mains, and is allowing more feel, comfort, and playability than a stiffer 17g (1.25) poly cross.


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  5. Imago

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    Still wrong section...

    What about 1.40 NG and 1.28 Poly?
     
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  6. Paragon

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    Hey guys im looking into trying out Wilson Nxt and Lux 4g, i used to play with 4g full bed @ 50. Any recommendations on where i should put the NXT either in the mains or crosses? and what would be the benefits of both? Thank you.
     
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  7. Irvin

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    That will depend on the feel and durability you’re looking for. I string for a guy that uses 4G mains and Sensation crosses and he likes it quite well. If you’re going to use 4G mains NXT / Sensation won’t make much different except for price. And the price difference for a half set isn’t that much.
     
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  8. gmatheis

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    Have you ever thought about , just once, a good natural gut main and poly cross?

    You might be surprised.
     
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  9. 10shoe

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    The only synthetic string I found to be a suitable replacement for natural gut in a natural gut/poly hybrid was Prince Recoil, long since discontinued. Go with the gut.
     
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  10. am1899

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    In my experience, multi mains and poly crosses offers terrible durability. Spend the extra coin for natural gut mains.
     
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  11. Arafel

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    I use an 18 gauge poly cross (Volkl V Star) and 17 gauge multi main (Prince Precision Tour), and it lasts a long time. Doesn't notch. I sometimes use Babolat Xcel for my main, The V Star is very soft for a poly
     
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  12. Rabbit

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    Oh, I hate to think of anyone wasting a perfectly good half set of natural gut on crosses!!!!!! :mad:
     
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  13. SavvyStringer

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    Gamma TNT2 main and thin cross 17 or 18g. I use gammaTNT2 as my go to durability multi. I've broken vtorque 16 mains before the TNT2 and I had a guy bring back broken squarex mains with TNT2 crosses in a spin pattern racket. My typical multi main hybrid is 17g vanquish with 17g tour its but it usually bites the dust in 4-6 sets. I don't play it often but it plays well when I do go with it.
     
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  14. SavvyStringer

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    Lasts way longer than any multi I've tried plus the tension is there the whole way.
     
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