Multi with Better Spin than Poly?
- Thread starter mkedda
- Start date
rofl_copter3
Professional
There is no multi with better spin than poly. Not even close...
Not even if you take the best spin potential multi and compare it to the worst spin potential poly?
loosegroove
Hall of Fame
Some here say that Head Rip Control can produce some poly like spin. I haven't tried it personally yet.
Muppet
Legend
I've read on this board that people who have lower racquet head speed (RHS) can't benefit from the spin of a poly. Also, they said that these lower-level players can get more spin from multis, synguts, and guts, with proper technique (at lower RHS.) I've gotten a lot more spin from NXT Max and Multifeel than I have from any of the polys I've tried. How do you weigh in on this?
Yes, RIP has lots of spin compared to other multis, but it isn't even close compared to RPM or Solinco Tour Bite.
D
Deleted member 120290
Guest
Don't fall for Mikeler's scam...
I know even a bigger secret multi that is softer than gut, has better tension maintenance and power than gut, has more spin, control and durability than poly, and costs less than syn gut. The secret is all yours for a down payment of $699 and a monthly subscription fee of $79.99 til eternity.
mikeler
Moderator
kcmiser
Rookie
RIP is the oddest string I've ever used. To the touch, it feels more like a poly than a multi. Noticeable bumpy texture unlike any multi I'm familiar with. However, it's also got this goofy slick outer layer that seems to prohibit getting much spin at all until it wears off.
I actually read someone on the TW review of this string say he lightly sands the stringbed to get rid of this and produce better spin right away. Craziest sounding idea I've ever heard, but kind of makes sense based on my experience.
I've got a half set of RIP sitting around. Maybe when I get bored some day I'll try it.
Sreeram
Professional
I experimented with full Multi for a while on a slightly stiff AST GT racquet. Based on the textured poly i tried including X1 only RIP gave me decent spin. Hexy Fibre came second.
Now I moved to a comfy racquet (Gold 99) with full bed soft copolys, Bighitter Blue was very nice and played way better than any multi on a stiff racquet.
In short if you have good swing then poly should be best for both Power and spin. If swing is not compact then go for multi, Polys will not be of any use to such swings.
Now I moved to a comfy racquet (Gold 99) with full bed soft copolys, Bighitter Blue was very nice and played way better than any multi on a stiff racquet.
In short if you have good swing then poly should be best for both Power and spin. If swing is not compact then go for multi, Polys will not be of any use to such swings.
Not fresh at least. A poly loses significant spin upon material fatigue and loss of flexibility.
sansaephanh
Professional
Does it have to be a Multi? I've been looking up spin/textured based strings and there are a decent amount of low topremium priced strings out there that seem to be built for spin and aren't poly/co-poly.
Gamma Ruff - Synthetic(?)
Construction: Solid core, braided wrap with extra wrap for 'Ruff' surface
"Gamma Ruff 16 is one of the most textured strings available on the market. Stringers hate it but you'll love Gamma Ruff if you're seeking maximum ball bite for spin without a stiff, harsh feel. "
Gosen Powermaster I-
Composition: Nylon monofilament
"Gosen's Powermaster I string features a unique flat construction. This shape helps the string grab the ball, creating a lot of spin. This Powermaster 1 has a thicker cross-section than Powermaster II for greater durability and more control. "
Gosen Powermaster II
Composition: Nylon monofilament
"Gosen's Powermaster I string features a unique flat construction. This shape helps the string grab the ball, creating a lot of spin. This Powermaster II has a thinner cross-section than Powermaster I for additional power. The greater difference in height and width also helps generate even more ball bite for increased spin potential. "
Gosen A. K. Control - Umishima is a basically a fancy core.
Construction: Nylon mono-filament in special Umishima construction
"Improving on the AK Pro, the AK Control upgrades spin and control with Gosen's new Umishima construction. A great combination of spin and power with nice feel makes accuracy easier to come by."
Dunlop Hexy Fiber
Composition: Multifilament with PU outer wrap
"Offering a hexagonal profile for added spin, this multifilament string provides excellent comfort and power. Durable monofilament outer wraps help the longevity of play. "
Volkl V-Twist, V-Feel, Gripper - Grouped as 3 textured multis.
Construction: Multifilament
"Volkl V-Twist is a string designed to enhance spin control. It offers a textured finish to the classic multi fiber construction to provide some extra bite to the ball. This arm-friendly string offers great control, feel and durability."
TNT Ruff? - Maybe an old failed TNT string. Seems interesting at the least.
It's hard to tell whats what. Some say different constructions of polys and all sorts of crap lol. Prices are up to you to look up. I'm gonna go with the cheapest ones to test. Good luck man. Hope I didn't screw up your entire tennis life.
PS: Keep in mind these are all the ones TW offer. The range is bigger if you want to go out of the box known as TW.
Gamma Ruff - Synthetic(?)
Construction: Solid core, braided wrap with extra wrap for 'Ruff' surface
"Gamma Ruff 16 is one of the most textured strings available on the market. Stringers hate it but you'll love Gamma Ruff if you're seeking maximum ball bite for spin without a stiff, harsh feel. "
Gosen Powermaster I-
Composition: Nylon monofilament
"Gosen's Powermaster I string features a unique flat construction. This shape helps the string grab the ball, creating a lot of spin. This Powermaster 1 has a thicker cross-section than Powermaster II for greater durability and more control. "
Gosen Powermaster II
Composition: Nylon monofilament
"Gosen's Powermaster I string features a unique flat construction. This shape helps the string grab the ball, creating a lot of spin. This Powermaster II has a thinner cross-section than Powermaster I for additional power. The greater difference in height and width also helps generate even more ball bite for increased spin potential. "
Gosen A. K. Control - Umishima is a basically a fancy core.
Construction: Nylon mono-filament in special Umishima construction
"Improving on the AK Pro, the AK Control upgrades spin and control with Gosen's new Umishima construction. A great combination of spin and power with nice feel makes accuracy easier to come by."
Dunlop Hexy Fiber
Composition: Multifilament with PU outer wrap
"Offering a hexagonal profile for added spin, this multifilament string provides excellent comfort and power. Durable monofilament outer wraps help the longevity of play. "
Volkl V-Twist, V-Feel, Gripper - Grouped as 3 textured multis.
Construction: Multifilament
"Volkl V-Twist is a string designed to enhance spin control. It offers a textured finish to the classic multi fiber construction to provide some extra bite to the ball. This arm-friendly string offers great control, feel and durability."
TNT Ruff? - Maybe an old failed TNT string. Seems interesting at the least.
It's hard to tell whats what. Some say different constructions of polys and all sorts of crap lol. Prices are up to you to look up. I'm gonna go with the cheapest ones to test. Good luck man. Hope I didn't screw up your entire tennis life.
PS: Keep in mind these are all the ones TW offer. The range is bigger if you want to go out of the box known as TW.
Last edited:
thebuffman
Professional
Nothing spins like poly. Put some of that Spiky Shark in your bed at 30 tension and report back to this thread.
Here's the link:
http://twu.tenniswarehouse.com/learning_center/spinandstiffness.php
Prince Syn Gut DF at 30lbs in a 16x19 pattern had more spin than Babolat RPM and Luxilon Big Banger Rough!
Now when you go to 60lbs, the reverse is true.
However, I've encountered wrist pain w/ poly strings except for one setup w/ the strings set up at 30#... and at that setup, I couldn't really demonstrate a significant difference in spin... at least my opponent didn't really pick up on anything different.
I would not think too much of studies based on clamped racquets.
One of the main reasons polys produce so much spin is that it allows the user to swing much harder without fearing the ball going out. Polys reward faster racquet head speed, whereas multis and synthetic gut reward the more consistent strokes.
So if you eliminate the difference in racquet head speed by clamping the racquets, then all sorts of unexpected data can emerge.
mixedmedia
Professional
How about natural gut? I have been getting better spin than all synthetic multis. It's a better spin too--what my former coach would call "three-dimensional movement." You do have to both relax more and use more energy though to unlock it, if that makes any sense and doesn't sound too mysterious.
sansaephanh
Professional
Yeah i get more spin when i take a relaxed aggressive swing. Great for hitting short angles. It's just hard to get into the habit of doing it
Gut gives a lot of spin, but because of the power, the spin/power ratio isn't really high. I've found for softly hit shots my gut main/poly cross hybrid gives a lot more spin than all poly. When I rip into the ball, I'll get more spin with the poly and with the gut mains, it becomes very difficult to keep the ball in the court - either because of trampolining or sometimes just because of the extra power.
sansaephanh
Professional
So do you guys think a textured nonpoly could stand up to the spin potential of poly?
I'm looking at something like Gamma ruff/dunlop hexfibre mains with a slippery/budget poly/mono as a cross for maximum snap back. I'm hoping to max out at 5-6$ hybrid with decent playability. I'm not expecting it to last as long for me as bhbr16 though... Which kind of discourages me from even trying this idea.
I'm looking at something like Gamma ruff/dunlop hexfibre mains with a slippery/budget poly/mono as a cross for maximum snap back. I'm hoping to max out at 5-6$ hybrid with decent playability. I'm not expecting it to last as long for me as bhbr16 though... Which kind of discourages me from even trying this idea.
Winners or Errors
Legend
Dunlop Hexy mains will snap quickly. It's not durable. I use it in crosses and break it a little after the poly mains have gone dead... I'd use it as a cross, but YMMV.
