Murray: Bo5 sets “not good” for tennis

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oldmanfan

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I'm starting to lean towards only slam quarters onwards should best of five
I understand your reasoning for this, but I 100% disagree.

My reasoning is that Bo3 at slams favors the 'lesser' players. These unseeded/lower-ranked players can win 2/3 sets, but these same winners have a much lower chance of winning these matches if played Bo5. Isner was up 2 sets to one against Nadal in 1R RG2011. So had slams played Bo3 before QF's, Nadal would've suffered the worst slam defeat of any player ever in history considering his clay prowess, especially at RG (only 2 losses!). And I'm saying this as a Federer fan (Fed likely would've won RG2011 had Nadal been knocked out of 1R by Isner).

Keep slams Bo5 in all rounds to make it fair to everyone, win or lose; EVERYone should only win a slam match by winning 3 sets (retire/walkover exceptions).
 

heninfan99

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I understand your reasoning for this, but I 100% disagree.

My reasoning is that Bo3 at slams favors the 'lesser' players. These unseeded/lower-ranked players can win 2/3 sets, but these same winners have a much lower chance of winning these matches if played Bo5. Isner was up 2 sets to one against Nadal in 1R RG2011. So had slams played Bo3 before QF's, Nadal would've suffered the worst slam defeat of any player ever in history considering his clay prowess, especially at RG (only 2 losses!). And I'm saying this as a Federer fan (Fed likely would've won RG2011 had Nadal been knocked out of 1R by Isner).

Keep slams Bo5 in all rounds to make it fair to everyone, win or lose; EVERYone should only win a slam match by winning 3 sets (retire/walkover exceptions).
This is true but it makes outcomes more interesting rather than based on superior iron man fitness.

IIRC the olympics are 3 sets except for the final. Even now qualies to slams are best of 3 and no one minds. We shouldn't go out of our way to protect Nadal or whoever from losing, we should put their long-term health first.
 

Kaptain Karl

Hall Of Fame
Were I the King of Tennis:
• All majors would have 5th Set tie-breakers
• At all majors the men would play Best Of Three Sets in the 1st and 2nd Rounds

You're welcome.
 

MugOpponent

Hall of Fame
The problem with going to bo3 for everything is that damages the sport. The slams have always been five and they are the crown jewels. They should be more difficult to win and require more sweat and tears. If you make the slam tournaments bo3 then why is winning Rome, Madrid or Monte Carlo any less prestigious than winning Roland Garros? Why would winning Cincy or Canada mean less than winning the US Open? The problem with bo3 is it would be completely water down the best products the sport offers.
 

WarrenMP

Professional
Bo3 would be good for the grand slams. It's time for change. I can see the Bo3 for the first four rounds and Bo5 after that. Or save the best of 5 for the finals
 

MLM

Rookie
Best of 5 for all Slam matches.
5th set tiebreak from R1-SF.
Advantage 5th set in the F.
 

Kaptain Karl

Hall Of Fame
If you make the slam tournaments bo3 then why is winning Rome, Madrid or Monte Carlo any less prestigious than winning Roland Garros?
Since I despise Roland Garros, I already think Rome, Madrid and Monte Carlo are better events. They play on actual clay, not that crushed brick junk.

Why would winning Cincy or Canada mean less than winning the US Open?
Hello??? Because of the prize money.
 
Other sports have the timed matches while baseball, tennis are not a timed sport so my suggestion is to speed up court surface where points end earlier and move on to next points, saving a lot of time on a match. The longer rallies in a point, over the match would accumulate the match time. The shorter rallies, the shorter match, without deuce in theory, including shot clock. If the clock reads zero but the ball is in air, then it's live ball for a bad toss. if he catches the toss, it's a fault. You would see players speeding up the game a lot more which leads to many errors due to rushed serve under pressure situations. Every time a players catch the ball, it's resetting his service routine which typically last about 10 seconds more after the ball bouncing and winding up serve motions. Most players do that over a long match which would add up a couple of minutes a match. It's little things that do add up time in a bo5 sets. Be strict with shot clock and surface speed.

Another option is to ban the newer tennis racket technology and go back to wooden racket to slow down and encourage the points to end earlier and to speed up court surface a lot more to encourage serve and volley. This is a reason why baseball outlawed aluminum bats to preserve the integrity of the sport so it applies to tennis as well.
 

Daniel Andrade

Hall of Fame
As a spectator I want to see Bo5.
However I understand how those matches destroy athlete's bodies.
My take on it to make everyone happy is to have less tournaments in the year and maintain 5 Bo5 tournaments.
Less quantity, more quality.
 

reaper

Legend
As a spectator I want to see Bo5.
However I understand how those matches destroy athlete's bodies.
My take on it to make everyone happy is to have less tournaments in the year and maintain 5 Bo5 tournaments.
Less quantity, more quality.
Are their bodies being destroyed? Yes there are injuries but there's been little change at the top of the sport for about 15 years.
 
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Daniel Andrade

Hall of Fame
Are their bodies being destroyed? Yes there are injuries but there's been little change at the top of the sport for about 15 years.
Those injuries players suffer don't come just because.
It would be interesting to see if today's players suffer more injuries than the ones from the past.
 

WarrenMP

Professional
I've always thought the 2008 Wimbledon final would have been better with a scoreline of 6-4 6-4, than 6-4 6-4 6-7 6-7 9-7.
I would have preferred it that way. It is crazy to have matches go 5 hours long. I can understand Bo5 with no ad scoring. I would rather see Bo3 with advantage in the 3rd
 

insideguy

Legend
Use to be most guys were retired around 30. Now many are playing to 35. Honestly they r full of it. They want to work less and make the same. Thats what it comes down to.
 

reaper

Legend
This comes down in part to how the viewer engages with tennis. Most 5 set matches I don't sit down to watch from start to finish. I'm more likely to have it on in the background while doing something else. I tune in at what I perceive to be interesting stages. The ebb and flow of 5 sets is more interesting to me, but it doesn't necessarily mean watching every point.
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
The whole idea of making the game quicker came from a study about how to attract more millennials. That's all this is about.
 
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