Murray >>>> Lendl as coach

Wow, very interesting. I didn't know that Lendl was getting into tennis coaching. I think it's great. He's certainly seen it all and lived it. He'd have immense credibility with Murray as he could refer to his own early struggles in the finals of majors before breaking through in 1984 with a French Open title. He had lost in his three previous finals, so I'm sure that he can relate to Murray somewhat on that topic.
 
This would be fun....Never mind Murray...watching Lendl in the coach's corner would be awesome. A legend...
 
Yep. Definitely very interesting.

... although Conners didn't really help Roddick....

Just because Lendl was money doesn't mean he will make a good coach.
 
Murray should coach Federer. Federer needs a psychological coach who can strengthen his mind, esp remove the "Nadal block".
 
Not a bad idea but Murray must completely swallow his ego and treat Lendl as his Sensei and do whatever the man tells him to do be it ban mommy or throw away his PS3. Also, he will have to get a close crewcut. :p

In fact, the only phrase Murray will be allowed to say will be "Sir, Yes Sir!"

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Not a bad idea but Murray must completely swallow his ego and treat Lendl as his Sensei and do whatever the man tells him to do be it ban mommy or throw away his PS3 :p

In fact, the only phrase Murray will be allowed to say will be "Sir, Yes Sir!"

After all of the disappointment, I honestly don't know if Murray has any ego left.
 
I think what Lendl did right throughout his career would give him lots of knowledge which would be of great use to Andy. His mental strength and dedication was in the right areas - something I'm not sure Andy is getting right even if he is training as hard as anyone else.

As they say: correct training makes perfect. Andy is just not getting it right in terms of mindset/mental preparation.
 
Interesting... espc. the fact that Lendl never captured Wimbledon himself and that has to be Murray's primary goal. I never really liked Lendl back in the day but he is immensely respectable in his ethic.
 
ROGER FEDERER is backing Andy Murray to bounce back from the worst slump of his career.


But 16-time Grand Slam champion Federer, 29, said: "Andy not playing well for three tournaments is not that big a surprise. I struggled hugely between 19 and 23.
"So for it to happen once in a while, I don't think it's that much of a worry.
"It's important he picks it up before the French Open and Wimbledon. But he's too good a player to continue like this."
That said I'd love to see Sir Ivan in the player's box.
 
Murray should coach Federer. Federer needs a psychological coach who can strengthen his mind, esp remove the "Nadal block".

Hmm perhaps however I think Amélie Mauresmo would make a better psychological coach. Roland Garros being her home turf, gives her an unbreakable psych edge, coupled with her already formidable mental strength.
 
The difference between Lendl and Connors as coaches is that Lendl's strength in work ethic and consistency and aggressive toughness can be taught as a form of discipline. Connor's competitive fire cannot and that is Roddick's problem, he should have won Wimbledon in 2009...he was playing better and with that serve couldn't close out those set points? Problem, no killer instinct for Roddick.

I think Murray has that instinct, he's a fiery personality but he needs to calm down and be aggressive at the same time, that's Lendl's territory and if he can coach that... well that would be perfect for Murray. Mom has got to go too.
 
Even if this were to happen, I don't see the relationship lasting very long.

Murray is a whiny brat, and if he pulls the kind of stuff he did on Brad Gilbert, Ivan is not going to sit there and take it.

If Murray is to hire a coach, I hope he pays the entire fee out of his own pocket. No help from the British tennis organization. This kid needs to learn how to treat coaches with respect.
 
Even if this were to happen, I don't see the relationship lasting very long.

Murray is a whiny brat, and if he pulls the kind of stuff he did on Brad Gilbert, Ivan is not going to sit there and take it.

If Murray is to hire a coach, I hope he pays the entire fee out of his own pocket. No help from the British tennis organization. This kid needs to learn how to treat coaches with respect.

Murray has paid for his own coaches, trainers and medical staff since November 2007.
 
Confidence, inspiration, discipline, courage, perseverance. All these Murray will gain, if he allows his mind to.
 
tbh, I will be sorry to see Lendl wasting his valuable time on this guy. Guys like these; Murray, Safin... are uncoachable and Murray is too old anyway. Bob Brett found Ivanisevic to be completely impossible. Find some seven year old with world beating talent and concentrate on that kid for the next 10 years instead.
 
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Connors - Roddick

Yep. Definitely very interesting.

... although Conners didn't really help Roddick....
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I dispute that. Connors improved Roddick's backhand (Roddick has acknowledged him in this). He also was a big part, I'm sure, of Roddick's run to the US Open final in 2006 - the only time he has got to that final since his win in 2003.
 
tbh, I will be sorry to see Lendl wasting his valuable time on this guy. Guys like these; Murray, Safin... are uncoachable and Murray is too old anyway. Bob Brett found Ivanisevic to be completely impossible. Find some seven year old with world beating talent and concentrate on that kid for the next 10 years instead.

I agree. Why jump on a sinking ship
 
Yep. Definitely very interesting.

... although Conners didn't really help Roddick....

Just because Lendl was money doesn't mean he will make a good coach.

Doesn’t mean he won’t be a good coach either. Maybe Lendl is the best coach in history, we don’t know yet. At least Lendl has experience coaching with his academy. I don’t know what experience Connors had coaching before he got with Roddick.
 
Perfectionist Lendl coaching whinger Murray? That sounds like a match made in hell.

Murray hasn't won a slam because he's been far too flat, far too inhibited and seemingly content to push, in all 3 of the slam finals he's played in. That is never going to win a player a slam final.

Doesn’t mean he won’t be a good coach either. Maybe Lendl is the best coach in history, we don’t know yet. At least Lendl has experience coaching with his academy. I don’t know what experience Connors had coaching before he got with Roddick.

I think Lendl would be a good coach to a player who is absolutely willing to do everything in their power to be as good a tennis player as possible. For some reason, I don't think Murray is this player. If he can't cope for long with Gilbert as his coach, then I certainly can't see him coping for long with Lendl. That's my gut feeling. Still, I wouldn't mind if I was proved wrong.
 
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Perfectionist Lendl coaching whinger Murray? That sounds like a match made in hell.

Murray hasn't won a slam because he's been far too flat, far too inhibited and seemingly content to push, in all 3 of the slam finals he's played in. That is never going to win a player a slam final.



I think Lendl would be a good coach to a player who is absolutely willing to do everything in their power to be as good a tennis player as possible. For some reason, I don't think Murray is this player. If he can't cope for long with Gilbert as his coach, then I certainly can't see him coping for long with Lendl. That's my gut feeling. Still, I wouldn't mind if I was proved wrong.

You seriously can't compare an 18 year old Murray with Gilbert to Murray now. Murray has matured and no way does he act like he did with Gilbert. Get with the times!
 
You seriously can't compare an 18 year old Murray with Gilbert to Murray now. Murray has matured and no way does he act like he did with Gilbert. Get with the times!

I'm not so sure anyone who waves their arms around when they get aced is Mature.


Perhaps you mean, 'Murray has gotten older'
 
I'm not so sure anyone who waves their arms around when they get aced is Mature.


Perhaps you mean, 'Murray has gotten older'

He's more grown up than before, silly to say otherwise.

Maybe you saw him swear to someone in his box lately?
 
You seriously can't compare an 18 year old Murray with Gilbert to Murray now. Murray has matured and no way does he act like he did with Gilbert. Get with the times!

At this year's AO Final, the way Murray treated his entourage brought back a lot of memories of how he treated Gilbert back then.

Old habits die hard.
 
tbh, I will be sorry to see Lendl wasting his valuable time on this guy. Guys like these; Murray, Safin... are uncoachable and Murray is too old anyway. Bob Brett found Ivanisevic to be completely impossible. Find some seven year old with world beating talent and concentrate on that kid for the next 10 years instead.

I'm agree,

Lendl should coach a young player like Dimitrov, Tomic, Harrison instead of Murray who is too old now ( 24 )
 
Great!! If Lendl instills in Murray the work ethic and killer instinct he was famous for - that coupled to Murray's variety and reactive abilities could make for an awesome combination.
 
I'm agree,

Lendl should coach a young player like Dimitrov, Tomic, Harrison instead of Murray who is too old now ( 24 )

If I were Lendl I'd choose Milos to coach.

Just read Becker's unusually frank remarks about Lendl coaching Murray.

It will be a battle like trying to push a boulder up a steep endless slope. :(
 
murray's a great player, but relative to the other three guys at the top, his game's always looked a bit mechanical to me-novak, roger, nadal, all three have such fluid, live arms on the forehand side in particular, whereas murray seems to hold his wrist tighter, muscling the stroke more than whipping through it. he's proven a willingness to train hard from a physical standpoint, but if it's mentality and mechanics that are what's causing him problems, it's a trickier fix. we'll see what happens.
 
murray's a great player, but relative to the other three guys at the top, his game's always looked a bit mechanical to me-novak, roger, nadal, all three have such fluid, live arms on the forehand side in particular, whereas murray seems to hold his wrist tighter, muscling the stroke more than whipping through it. he's proven a willingness to train hard from a physical standpoint, but if it's mentality and mechanics that are what's causing him problems, it's a trickier fix. we'll see what happens.

Murray believes that he must be in supreme physical shape to beat the top 2 dogs.

I assume you think he's barking up the wrong tree?
 
I think Lendl would be a great tennis coach, but Murray would have to be willing to change significantly for this to work out.

Murray likes having an entourage to take care of all his needs and entertain him, this is simply not Lendl's style, I can't see Lendl standing around on the court for 30-45mins while Andy and his entourage play footy tennis before every practice session.

There is a time for having fun and a time for serious training, that line is often blurred with Andy Murray.
 
Murray believes that he must be in supreme physical shape to beat the top 2 dogs.

I assume you think he's barking up the wrong tree?

He puts all that time and energy into improving his fitness. But come the grand slam final and once he gets behind, he always puts his hand over his thigh, acting like he is cramping or injured.
 
Will Lendl hit at his face when he comes up with a question?

" I didn´t ask him to come to the net"
 
A new coach is long overdue.

Lendl was so mentally strong & such a perfectionist in his playing days, he would make a good coach & mentor

Bollettieri had said (in 2010) that he would love to work with Murray, but Murray did nothing.
 
The word from the BBC's tennis correspondent is that this is a non-starter.

Where did you see that Batz?

He puts all that time and energy into improving his fitness. But come the grand slam final and once he gets behind, he always puts his hand over his thigh, acting like he is cramping or injured.

I've wondered for a long time now whether Murray has the physical strength and frame to go the distance in a slam. He definitely has the talent, no doubt, but as Scotus says his body seems to break down at the later stages of slams as if his joints stiffen and get sore more so than other players.
Maybe his body just can't take the physical strains required to win a slam.
I've seen it so many times before with Murray and each time it happens I become more convinced.
Remember I mentioned these fears to you years ago Batz?
Maybe deep down Murray knows this and these are the mental demons of doubt that creep in in the later stages.
 
Where did you see that Batz?

I've wondered for a long time now whether Murray has the physical strength and frame to go the distance in a slam. He definitely has the talent, no doubt, but as Scotus says his body seems to break down at the later stages of slams as if his joints stiffen and get sore more so than other players.
Maybe his body just can't take the physical strains required to win a slam.
I've seen it so many times before with Murray and each time it happens I become more convinced.
Remember I mentioned these fears to you years ago Batz?
Maybe deep down Murray knows this and these are the mental demons of doubt that creep in in the later stages.

I heard Jonathon Overend say it last night mate. BBC website saying the same.
 
Intriuging but I can't see it happening. Lendl has no proven track record of success as a coach either.

Neil Harman Tennis Correspondent, Key Biscayne, Florida
March 28 2011 12:01AM

Ivan Lendl, one of the greatest champions in the sport’s history, is ready to make his first move into coaching and has already made tentative inquiries as to whether Andy Murray would be keen on hiring him, The Times has learnt.

Lendl witnessed Murray’s 6-1, 7-5 defeat by Alex Bogomolov Jnr in the first round of the Sony Ericsson Open, in Miami, the British No 1’s fourth successive setback during which time he has lost nine consecutive sets and, for the first time, lost consecutive matches to two players outside the world’s top 100.

Never has the 23-year-old world No 5 required a greater sense of purpose, direction and inspiration. The thought that it could be provided by such a figure as Lendl, legendary for his application, work ethic and drive for perfection, means that any approach from the 51-year-old needs to be treated with the respect it merits.

It is understood that, after 12 years out of the game, Lendl’s zest for tennis has been reinvigorated by a succession of appearances on the ATP Champions Tour and in exhibition events.

Lendl, a Czech-born American citizen, believes that the time is right for him to take a player under his wing, much in the same way as he turned to Tony Roche in his early twenties, in the hope that the left-hander would put his career on the right track.

Lendl lost in the first four of his grand-slam final appearances, so he has been where Murray is now, fretting over his game and knowing he has the talent, but worried about how it may eventually fit into place.

If the pair could be drawn together — and The Times understands that a preliminary conversation has taken place, but nothing of serious consequence has yet been discussed — it would be a remarkable moment in Murray’s development. At present, he is at one of his lowest ebbs, confidence whittled away, feet not moving and his mind in a thick and apparently impenetrable mist.

I was told that Lendl’s desire to enter the world of coaching is “serious” and that it has to be under the right conditions and with someone who is prepared to work in the same way he did. Players such as this do not fall off trees.

When I asked him last year how he coped with losing his first four grand-slam finals, Lendl said: “The key was to know that I had to make changes. I was just never quite sure I was going about it the right way and you cannot be 100 per cent sure the changes will work. A lot of guys give up when they don’t get immediate results. You have to be incredibly patient.”

Lendl and Murray are nearneighbours. The Scot has an apartment on the Miami seafront and the man who won 94 singles titles, five year-ending Masters and spent 270 weeks at No 1 in the world has his Champions Academy (motto: where greatness happens) at the Boulevard Village and Tennis Club at nearby Vero Beach.

There is the question, of course, about the pair’s compatibility. Lendl has never been anything other than ferociously single-minded and could be said to have a kindred spirit in Murray, whose stubborn streak has meant him dispensing with three coaches inside five full seasons on the ATP Tour.

One of those, Brad Gilbert, was appointed on the LTA’s wage bill in 2006 and departed a year later, when the pair were exhausted by each other’s company. At present, Murray is coached on a consultancy basis by Àlex Corretja, the Spanish former world No 2, and he talked last week of his desire to spend more time in the company of Dani Vallverdu, the Venezuelan who is his best friend and hitting partner. After his shocker of a defeat by Bogomolov on Friday, he said that what was happening to his game required sorting out quickly. “It’s all to do with me and I need to change it,” Murray, who has reached the finals of three grand-slam championships, said.

“I can’t spend all the time in the gym, practise as well as I do and then go out and play like that. I don’t want to play like this for the rest of the year.”
 
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