Murray planning for Wimbledon/Olympic retirement

aldeayeah

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Andy has been having a rough time recently while trying to come back from his Miami injury, losing his latest 4 matches and dropping out of the top 100.

It seems this time he's really planning to hang the racquet in the following 2 months.

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'I would rather finish at Wimbledon or an Olympic Games,' Murray says on retirement plans

Andy Murray admits retiring at Wimbledon or the Olympic Games would be a fitting way to cap his iconic 19-year career.
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I do think now is the time to gracefully bow out and off-court he seems in a good place. He's had a few extra years after the last time he felt like he would retire, came back and won a title and made a few more finals but It does feel like this time with the injury he sustained that Wimbledon/Olympics are the ideal places to do it. Both places he's loved and won his big titles.
 
I think the best we can hope for is a few more wins. He was beaten by Giron in Stuttgart which doesn't bode well given last year Murray won a fair few grass matches. Hopefully when he does lose at Wimbledon it's against a top player. It'll be interesting to see how he moves to grass and back to clay.
 
Good riddance, he should have retired long ago. He didn't deserve all the wild cards he got in last few years. Even after getting a new hip he kept his pusher brand of tennis, totally embarassing, won't be missed for sure.
 
aldeayeah said:
Andy has been having a rough time recently while trying to come back from his Miami injury, losing his latest 4 matches and dropping out of the top 100.

It seems this time he's really planning to hang the racquet in the following 2 months.

www.eurosport.com

'I would rather finish at Wimbledon or an Olympic Games,' Murray says on retirement plans

Andy Murray admits retiring at Wimbledon or the Olympic Games would be a fitting way to cap his iconic 19-year career.
www.eurosport.com www.eurosport.com
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He should have the first time he got hip surgery. He just got some house money, was never a factor even in the lesser tournaments. Did he even win a title after his surgery?
 
NeutralFan said:
Good riddance, he should have retired long ago. He didn't deserve all the wild cards he got in last few years. Even after getting a new hip he kept his pusher brand of tennis, totally embarassing, won't be missed for sure.
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Yea, I watched him in Miami and it was the same nonsense as most of his career other than that 12-13 period. Battling on every single point, pushing his body to the extreme despite the new hip.
 
Murray won Antwerp 2019 over Wawrinka, that was his only post Hip op ATP tour level title. Murray was showing form in late 2019 then he got injured in a Davis Cup tie and he was never the same again.

The main and valid criticism about post Hip op Murray is that he continued to play counter punching tennis, if your movement is gone you can't play that way, you play more aggressive, try to finish points faster than long rallies. Maybe you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

He'll be in the Tennis Hall of Fame, he's had a great career and for the British annuls of sporting greats Murray will be near the top of that list.
 
tennis24x7 said:
He should have the first time he got hip surgery. He just got some house money, was never a factor even in the lesser tournaments. Did he even win a title after his surgery?
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Yes, he won 2019 Antwerp beating Wawrinka in the final. It gave me hope he could still be a factor at least in the smaller events but since then he has declined considerably. I doubt he will win any more singles matches before he bows out but, if he manages to do so, it will be a bonus.
 
Zardoz7/12 said:
Murray won Antwerp 2019 over Wawrinka, that was his only post Hip op ATP tour level title. Murray was showing form in late 2019 then he got injured in a Davis Cup tie and he was never the same again.

The main and valid criticism about post Hip op Murray is that he continued to play counter punching tennis, if your movement is gone you can't play that way, you play more aggressive, try to finish points faster than long rallies. Maybe you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

He'll be in the Tennis Hall of Fame, he's had a great career and for the British annuls of sporting greats Murray will be near the top of that list.
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He will be second only to Perry in the British Tennis Hall of Fame. Wonder if he will get a statue like they gave Perry (finally)?
 
Mainad said:
As expected. I just wanted him to win a couple more matches before he calls it quits but no guarantee of that sadly.

It will be hard for me to imagine the tour without him but there it is. :cry:
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It just won’t be the same tour without him. Even forgetting about his level on the courts he is just so entertaining with his sense of humour, honesty, insight to the game.

I hope he stays in the game in one way or another. He would make an amazing commentator.
 
Subway Tennis said:
It just won’t be the same tour without him. Even forgetting about his level on the courts he is just so entertaining with his sense of humour, honesty, insight to the game.

I hope he stays in the game in one way or another. He would make an amazing commentator.
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I'm hoping the same.
 
Mainad said:
He will be second only to Perry in the British Tennis Hall of Fame. Wonder if he will get a statue like they gave Perry (finally)?
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For sure he will get a statue. Wouldn’t be surprised if he has already been approached about it but is reluctant to do anything until he retires.
 
mahatma said:
2024 - the year of retirements, is it?

I just wish, I had made enough money in my life to retire this year lol. Sadly I can’t.
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Many of these players don't have enough money to retire. Murray probably does, but someone like Fognini? I doubt it, though it depends on how he's invested and how much he's spent. Same with Bautista Agut. And a lower-ranked player than that absolutely can't afford never to work again. But retiring from sports doesn't necessarily mean never working again. It rarely means that.
 
Many memories from sir murray but the two most memorable are both slam final losses.

1. Wimby 2012 final - Andy Murray was better player than anyone else other than the big 3 that time. I genuinely thought Andy would win this final. He played very well in the match and in the end the speech was classy.
2. AO 2013 final - The first set and half Andy went toe to toe with Djokovic. This time it looked like he would win the title. It was ping pong tennis.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Many memories from sir murray but the two most memorable are both slam final losses.

1. Wimby 2012 final - Andy Murray was better player than anyone else other than the big 3 that time. I genuinely thought Andy would win this final. He played very well in the match and in the end the speech was classy.
2. AO 2013 final - The first set and half Andy went toe to toe with Djokovic. This time it looked like he would win the title. It was ping pong tennis.
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His Slam final losses aren't the most memorable things for me!!!
 
BeatlesFan said:
Then Magnus Norman will be available and the smart players will be lining up to try and snag him.
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Magnus is not exclusively with Stan - he's only ever available part time because hes running an academy in Sweden, has kids and a new wife etc... and I believe has no intention of going full time on tour again for the moment
 
helterskelter said:
Many of these players don't have enough money to retire. Murray probably does, but someone like Fognini? I doubt it, though it depends on how he's invested and how much he's spent. Same with Bautista Agut. And a lower-ranked player than that absolutely can't afford never to work again. But retiring from sports doesn't necessarily mean never working again. It rarely means that.
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Ya you are right. I though probably while talking about myself, require ample money to retire.

That is the reason why while I love tennis, I like my desk job a lot more. You literally earn more and more while working less and less as you grow old lol.
 
helterskelter said:
Many of these players don't have enough money to retire. Murray probably does, but someone like Fognini? I doubt it, though it depends on how he's invested and how much he's spent. Same with Bautista Agut. And a lower-ranked player than that absolutely can't afford never to work again. But retiring from sports doesn't necessarily mean never working again. It rarely means that.
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Fognini should definitely have enough in his kitty to retire. Over $18 mill in prize earnings. Not to mention “the wife” ;) being a slam champion herself - Flavia Pennetta of course.

He’s in the top echelon of the sport and has been for a long time. However yes, someone who’s mostly been on the challenger circuit, never been top 50 would struggle to retire.
 
mahatma said:
Ya you are right. I though probably while talking about myself, require ample money to retire.

That is the reason why while I love tennis, I like my desk job a lot more. You literally earn more and more while working less and less as you grow old lol.
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This is bull

Even if a player has around 5 million at the age 35, they can just retire comfortably living anywhere. These top 20 players earn huge money from sponsors as well.
5 million at age 35 can become 10 million by age 60.
 
The top players will never need money problems unless they spent without a thought.

Eg. Someone like Mike Tyson would lose a lot of his wealth by expensive divorces but that's separate issue.

I don't know why would Fognini retire though. He was earning more than a million dollar each year until 2022. Even if he saved around 40% of it, he would be among the richest earners in the world.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
This is bull

Even if a player has around 5 million at the age 35, they can just retire comfortably living anywhere. These top 20 players earn huge money from sponsors as well.
5 million at age 35 can become 10 million by age 60.
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How many make 5M $ post deductions of travel/coaches/stay etc in a tennis career.

I can guarantee a loooot more make more than a tennis career in their careers.

And hey, you don’t have to be like top 50 in your field in the world to make that sort of money. In tennis - you have to be. It’s a damn tough career choice to have ( I mean a tennis career).

The shelf life of a tennis career is about 20 years. Shelf life of a regular career is about 45 years. In tennis you earn more while young as you earn endorsement deals which are better early on, in other regular careers you earn more as you age. Long term gains out of both would not be “in average” different. And the key term is “average” here
 
mahatma said:
How many make 5M $ post deductions of travel/coaches/stay etc in a tennis career.

I can guarantee a loooot more make more than a tennis career in their careers.

And hey, you don’t have to be like top 50 in your field in the world to make that sort of money. In tennis - you have to be. It’s a damn tough career choice to have ( I mean a tennis career).
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Yes and Fognini has 17 million prize money before taxes + sponsors.

It would take a braindead person to not have 5 million left from earning probably around 25 million before taxes, or even more.

If players live very extravagant life, its on them. But most of these players do very smart business decisions.
 
helterskelter said:
Many of these players don't have enough money to retire. Murray probably does, but someone like Fognini? I doubt it, though it depends on how he's invested and how much he's spent. Same with Bautista Agut. And a lower-ranked player than that absolutely can't afford never to work again. But retiring from sports doesn't necessarily mean never working again. It rarely means that.
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Murray and probably, he could have retired after his two GS titles any day. Any GS winner can retire.
 
Aussie Darcy said:
Fognini should definitely have enough in his kitty to retire. Over $18 mill in prize earnings. Not to mention “the wife” ;) being a slam champion herself - Flavia Pennetta of course.

He’s in the top echelon of the sport and has been for a long time. However yes, someone who’s mostly been on the challenger circuit, never been top 50 would struggle to retire.
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If Fognini and Pennetta have been sensible, they should have enough, yes. (Though they'll have to have spent a lot of money on trainers, travel, and equipment). Endorsements will have added to the kitty, too, as well as fees for exhibitions. The two of them might well both have earned a bit modeling, too!

Some players spend way beyond their means, though. They spend as though their net worth and their career earnings are identical, which they are not - unless they have planned carefully, their net worth is likely to be much lower than their career earnings; if they have invested wisely, their net worth might well be higher than their career earnings. Tomic and his Ferraris is a classic example. If Fognini and Pennetta have done that, they'll need to top up. Per a google search, Fognini's net worth is $7 million, which is pretty decent given how high the expenses a tennis player incurs are. Tomic probably has negative net worth. If Boris Becker can go bankrupt, almost any tennis player can do so!

nolefam_2024 said:
Yes and Fognini has 17 million prize money before taxes + sponsors.

It would take a braindead person to not have 5 million left from earning probably around 25 million before taxes, or even more.

If players live very extravagant life, its on them. But most of these players do very smart business decisions.
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According to Google, Fognini's net worth is about $7 million. That was a couple of years ago, so probably a bit more now.
 
helterskelter said:
If Fognini and Pennetta have been sensible, they should have enough, yes. (Though they'll have to have spent a lot of money on trainers, travel, and equipment). Endorsements will have added to the kitty, too, as well as fees for exhibitions. The two of them might well both have earned a bit modeling, too!

Some players spend way beyond their means, though. They spend as though their net worth and their career earnings are identical, which they are not - unless they have planned carefully, their net worth is likely to be much lower than their career earnings; if they have invested wisely, their net worth might well be higher than their career earnings. Tomic and his Ferraris is a classic example. If Fognini and Pennetta have done that, they'll need to top up. Per a google search, Fognini's net worth is $7 million, which is pretty decent given how high the expenses a tennis player incurs are. Tomic probably has negative net worth. If Boris Becker can go bankrupt, almost any tennis player can do so!




According to Google, Fognini's net worth is about $7 million. That was a couple of years ago, so probably a bit more now.
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Ok so he is easily top 1% guy.
 
I kind of wish he'd retire at Wimbledon. He's not going to win either tournament but at least at Wimbledon he's a home favourite, and I feel it's a guarantee he'll get a much better send off there than at the Olympics.
 
Hood_Man said:
I kind of wish he'd retire at Wimbledon. He's not going to win either tournament but at least at Wimbledon he's a home favourite, and I feel it's a guarantee he'll get a much better send off there than at the Olympics.
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Yes then
Plan huge send off at Wimby and small send off at OG
 
tennisjedi said:
Mury Goat to win his final singles Olympic gold at Paris. The perfect farewell.

A gold medal on grass, hard and clay.
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Not even a Murray fan in that sense but I wouldn’t mind seeing him, Rafa, or Novak win the Olympics this year as historically it would be the icing on the cake for either one of those if they lifted the gold medal
 
Dominic & Andrey said:
Well he won't become an ATG then I guess.
I won't miss him and his game at all but great career nonetheless.
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He's indeed an ATG - All Time Glaswegian. But he's not even close to an all-time-great and will never be for sure.

Won't miss him either. Didn't bring anything new to the table in terms of playing style, was a pusher for much of his career, and destroyed his body for the #1 ranking. He should've retired a while ago.
 
dapchai said:
He's indeed an ATG - All Time Glaswegian. But he's not even close to an all-time-great and will never be for sure.

Won't miss him either. Didn't bring anything new to the table in terms of playing style, was a pusher for much of his career, and destroyed his body for the #1 ranking. He should've retired a while ago.
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Yikes lol, wonder how an internet geek would critique your career :whistle::whistle::whistle:
 
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