Murray PT57A-2 is switching to XL +10mm??

Stein

New User
Has anyone got confirmation? I have heard that Murray is switching to XL rackets now: PT57A-2 XL 16/19
 

bleno567

Professional
Anyone know what he's testing? .25" or .5"? .25' is barely noticeable IMO. He could make the change very easily.
 

Louis33

Semi-Pro
I think this would be a good change for him. He needs more free power to be competitive in today’s pro tennis.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Anyone know what he's testing? .25" or .5"? .25' is barely noticeable IMO. He could make the change very easily.
I disagree. I have Novaks personal that I set to my spec and is 27.1” (0.1” extended) and is noticeable vs non extended same spec same racket (PT346.1).
Murray is testing a few different lengths which is a normal procedure when thinking about changing the specs
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Oh I know dr325i has all the sources, I just want to know who it is
I honestly believe he works at/for Head, and has contacts with the pro stock rooms for Head. Either that or he works for one of the slams and gets access to all the racquets of the pro’s.
 

Lavs

Hall of Fame
I honestly believe he works at/for Head, and has contacts with the pro stock rooms for Head. Either that or he works for one of the slams and gets access to all the racquets of the pro’s.
He is part of one great austrian tennis/ski Company.
 

Alexh22

Professional
This is the worst shameless self promoting. Murray never switched to the racquet you re selling. Sorry.
 

bleno567

Professional
I disagree. I have Novaks personal that I set to my spec and is 27.1” (0.1” extended) and is noticeable vs non extended same spec same racket (PT346.1).
Murray is testing a few different lengths which is a normal procedure when thinking about changing the specs
Yeah. Well, I think my opinion is biased because I could never tell a difference between some 27.25" racquets and 27", e.g. the diablo MP and the burn 95, but I think that's because I was never dialed into 27" in the first place.

I recently switched from a full 28" to 27.9, and can tell a difference, so I believe you in saying the difference between 27 and 27.1 was noticeable.
 
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Alexh22

Professional
all I said was Andy Murray has not made the switch. It is a fact and I said it as it is. How is that bashing head ? Why do you have to be so defensive about it ? I even bought a pt 2.0 from a TW to pair with my MIA 280. I can differentiate good stock from garbage and if that offends you you need to seek help.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
all I said was Andy Murray has not made the switch. It is a fact and I said it as it is. How is that bashing head ? Why do you have to be so defensive about it ? I even bought a pt 2.0 from a TW to pair with my MIA 280. I can differentiate good stock from garbage and if that offends you you need to seek help.
1) Who said AM made a switch
2) Title clearly says PT57A2 with different length which is completely true!

"This is the worst shameless self promoting. Murray never switched to the racquet you re selling. Sorry."
How is this stupid statement:
1) anything to do with what the thread is about
2) not bashing Head???

@TW Staff -- you guys really need to contain this behavior from this particular poster
 

esm

Hall of Fame
hi Alex H21.5 +/- 7, what did you forget in this thread?
or is it just another occasion to bash Head?

wanna finally tell us what happened, were you fired from Head? or something else?
Gees man.. I spilled the drink and luckily my iPhone is sort of liquid proof.... hahahahaha
 

esm

Hall of Fame
all I said was Andy Murray has not made the switch. It is a fact and I said it as it is. How is that bashing head ? Why do you have to be so defensive about it ? I even bought a pt 2.0 from a TW to pair with my MIA 280. I can differentiate good stock from garbage and if that offends you you need to seek help.
which part of the “ing” in the thread title you did not understand?
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
I disagree. I have Novaks personal that I set to my spec and is 27.1” (0.1” extended) and is noticeable vs non extended same spec same racket (PT346.1).
Murray is testing a few different lengths which is a normal procedure when thinking about changing the specs
Didn't Djokovic change from 26.8 to 27.1 as well? .3 would certainly be noticeable.
 
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Alexh22

Professional
dr325. Censorship is all you strive for and it is you who need to be contained. People like you are not the norm in this industry and I am actually gratified to see Wilson, Babolat and Yonex surpassing head and the margin is getting larger and larger. You really need to learn how to read basic texts and face constructive feedback on products made by head, who until this very day, does not have a true signature line. where your focus, dr325, is to misguide consumers to maintain your superiority on some head pro stocks never accessible by the public. is that my fault ? Are you now forcing people to admit Murray is using the new radical ?
I had an exchange with you sometime ago ,in good faith, I was willing to buy Djokovic 346 radical and Murray’ s PT 57 from retail stores or TW. But that is likely to never happen. Should I be silenced for simply talking facts ?
You made numerous false statement but demanded respect from newer members when you were called out. This is not the first time dr325 has asked @TW Staffto terminate my access to this site.
I hope one day you can finish fixing your crappy 325i in your garage, so many issues.

1) Who said AM made a switch
2) Title clearly says PT57A2 with different length which is completely true!

"This is the worst shameless self promoting. Murray never switched to the racquet you re selling. Sorry."
How is this stupid statement:
1) anything to do with what the thread is about
2) not bashing Head???

@TW Staff -- you guys really need to contain this behavior from this particular poster
 
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dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Censorship is all you strive for and it is you who need to be contained. People like you are not the norm in this industry and I am actually gratified to see Wilson, Babolat and Yonex surpassing head and the margin is getting larger and larger. You really need to learn how to read basic texts and face constructive feedback on products made by head, who until this very day, does not have a true signature line. where your focus, dr325, is to misguide consumers to maintain your superiority on some head pro stocks never accessible by the public. is that my fault ? Are you now forcing people to admit Murray is using the new radical ?
You made numerous false statement but demanded respect from newer members when you were called out. This is not the first time dr325 has asked @TW Staffto terminate my access to this site.
Show me where I mentioned or did anything to censor any data!
Please point us to your "basic" text and a SINGLE thing that is not correct in my reply above
Who mentioned that Murray is using new Radical???

What is wrong with you, you lunatic?

I will report you for wrongfully accusing about things NEVER done or mentioned by me
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Censorship is all you strive for and it is you who need to be contained. People like you are not the norm in this industry and I am actually gratified to see Wilson, Babolat and Yonex surpassing head and the margin is getting larger and larger. You really need to learn how to read basic texts and face constructive feedback on products made by head, who until this very day, does not have a true signature line. where your focus, dr325, is to misguide consumers to maintain your superiority on some head pro stocks never accessible by the public. is that my fault ? Are you now forcing people to admit Murray is using the new radical ?
I had an exchange with you sometime ago ,in good faith, I was willing to buy Djokovic 346 radical and Murray’ s PT 57 from retail stores or TW. But that is likely to never happen. Should I be silenced for simply talking facts ?
You made numerous false statement but demanded respect from newer members when you were called out. This is not the first time dr325 has asked @TW Staffto terminate my access to this site.
"face constructive feedback"
you are probably the last person on Earth to give constructive feedback.
so many posters already asked you: what happened between you and Head?
it's so obvious that you hate this particular company, that sorry bro, you can't hide behind "constructive feedback"

I don't have any ties neither to Head, nor to Wilson nor to Babolat.
I can give constructive feedback to Babolat for example, as I played with Babolat rackets and moved to Head.
And you will see plenty of it across my posts in this forum section.
But I don't bash Babolat or Wilson on every possible occasion.
Just like I don't say that Head has some magical frames.

If there is someone who posted numerous fakes, it is you buddy.
with your statements that Novak started to play with Wilson for example and then moved to Head.
or your ridiculous implies that the Radical line was developed for Novak to change from Wilson to Head.

common buddy, time to move on. It doesn't matter what happened between you and Head. We all know that you hate Head.
just focus on praising Wilson, no need to spit so much salt about Head.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
"face constructive feedback"
you are probably the last person on Earth to give constructive feedback.
so many posters already asked you: what happened between you and Head?
it's so obvious that you hate this particular company, that sorry bro, you can't hide behind "constructive feedback"

I don't have any ties neither to Head, nor to Wilson nor to Babolat.
I can give constructive feedback to Babolat for example, as I played with Babolat rackets and moved to Head.
And you will see plenty of it across my posts in this forum section.
But I don't bash Babolat or Wilson on every possible occasion.
Just like I don't say that Head has some magical frames.

If there is someone who posted numerous fakes, it is you buddy.
with your statements that Novak started to play with Wilson for example and then moved to Head.
or your ridiculous implies that the Radical line was developed for Novak to change from Wilson to Head.

common buddy, time to move on. It doesn't matter what happened between you and Head. We all know that you hate Head.
just focus on praising Wilson, no need to spit so much salt about Head.
oh... let's be the bigger person and let's help him out.... :-D
as much as he hates Head, he has been asking around if the Head tk82s pallet can go onto a/his Wilson K90..... any idea.....? :rolleyes:
(is this because maybe, just maybe, in his opinion that Head produces better quality pallet.... and got salty, but needs must?)

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...allets-on-a-wilson-stick.578827/post-14703995

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/new-head-rackets-pallets.669519/post-14704006

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...k82-to-tk82s-pallet-swap.346894/post-14704001

okay, thats all, i think i have wasted enough time on this... lol
 

Kalin

Legend
This thread's poasts are making me confuse. So what is Andy Murray selling? I've always been very complimenting of his mother; do I get a discount?
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
"face constructive feedback"
you are probably the last person on Earth to give constructive feedback.
so many posters already asked you: what happened between you and Head?
it's so obvious that you hate this particular company, that sorry bro, you can't hide behind "constructive feedback"

I don't have any ties neither to Head, nor to Wilson nor to Babolat.
I can give constructive feedback to Babolat for example, as I played with Babolat rackets and moved to Head.
And you will see plenty of it across my posts in this forum section.
But I don't bash Babolat or Wilson on every possible occasion.
Just like I don't say that Head has some magical frames.

If there is someone who posted numerous fakes, it is you buddy.
with your statements that Novak started to play with Wilson for example and then moved to Head.
or your ridiculous implies that the Radical line was developed for Novak to change from Wilson to Head.

common buddy, time to move on. It doesn't matter what happened between you and Head. We all know that you hate Head.
just focus on praising Wilson, no need to spit so much salt about Head.
Yeah to some people constructive criticism is equatable to outright calling stuff he hasn't played garbage and hating on everything... it'd be kinda excusable if the guy was 14 but based on the racquets he uses I doubt he is...
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I disagree. I have Novaks personal that I set to my spec and is 27.1” (0.1” extended) and is noticeable vs non extended same spec same racket (PT346.1).
Murray is testing a few different lengths which is a normal procedure when thinking about changing the specs
Maybe the castoffs will make it's way into the gray market.
 

Bobble

Semi-Pro
I disagree. I have Novaks personal that I set to my spec and is 27.1” (0.1” extended) and is noticeable vs non extended same spec same racket (PT346.1).
Murray is testing a few different lengths which is a normal procedure when thinking about changing the specs
many update on Murray and his racquet length?
 

Keizer

Hall of Fame
Do you know which length he used against Evans in BoB?
You read my mind and I actually came here looking for this thread. I am watching him against Norrie right now and it seems as if he is being more aggressive and getting more pop off both wings.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Racquets more than 29" long are illegal. If XL is 27.5" long, it would be legal. 10 mm is 0.4", so if true, he would be using ~28" long frame. He must b channeling Chang.
 

Automatix

Hall of Fame
Racquets more than 29" long are illegal. If XL is 27.5" long, it would be legal. 10 mm is 0.4", so if true, he would be using ~28" long frame. He must b channeling Chang.
Ummm, it might be just me but aren't you overthinking what the title implies? If you ask me the OP implied that Murray is possibly switching to frame which is 10mm longer then the standard so circa 27.4 inches.
Besides our resident Head insider already stated he is testing various lengths and when Sir Murray decides to settle on one, @dr325i will fill us in. ;)
 

bleno567

Professional
Ummm, it might be just me but aren't you overthinking what the title implies? If you ask me the OP implied that Murray is possibly switching to frame which is 10mm longer then the standard so circa 27.4 inches.
Besides our resident Head insider already stated he is testing various lengths and when Sir Murray decides to settle on one, @dr325i will fill us in. ;)
No doubt from the context it's 27.4" that's being alleged.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
Don't know. Multiple sticks with different lengths were sent to him so he could have used any combo...
My speculation, based on watching the highlight clip, is that he is indeed using an XL frame, but probably something in between 27.4 and 27. I say this from noticing that his angled crosscourt 2hb looked more confident than ever with sharper angle, while he played safer than usual on the fh. His slice bh was still looking solid as a go-to option, which is why I don’t think it’s a full 27.4. His sw still looks huge in the 380 range, judging by how easily he was maintaining control of the rallies without swinging nearly as hard as Evans. I look forward to finding out the details.
 

Keizer

Hall of Fame
My speculation, based on watching the highlight clip, is that he is indeed using an XL frame, but probably something in between 27.4 and 27. I say this from noticing that his angled crosscourt 2hb looked more confident than ever with sharper angle, while he played safer than usual on the fh. His slice bh was still looking solid as a go-to option, which is why I don’t think it’s a full 27.4. His sw still looks huge in the 380 range, judging by how easily he was maintaining control of the rallies without swinging nearly as hard as Evans. I look forward to finding out the details.
If you get the chance to watch the Norrie match highlights and have any additional reactions, I'd be interested in hearing them. I also thought his CC BH was exceptional vs Norrie.
 
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