Murray string setup change for 2024

Bambooman

Hall of Fame
I thought I heard them mention that yesterday and guessed the combo had been switched. Surprised he didn't do this earlier.
 

Better_Call_Raul

Hall of Fame
Changing string setup. Now. After all these years.
To copy Fed.

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dr325i

G.O.A.T.
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).
What kind of gut are you using? 6lbs drop on the cross? That is quite a lot. What is the specific reason for 6 lbs drop? Did you test out other variations with lower or higher on the cross?
 
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).
meant to ask in the other thread, but what did AM think of TGK57.5? of course he ended back up with his PT57A, but I would imagine he would have had some feedback on it given the wide net he cast for testing different frames
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
What kind of gut are you using? 6lbs drop on the cross? That is quite a lot. What is the specific reason for 6 lbs drop? Did you test out other variations with lower or higher on the cross?
VS Touch 1.30
50/48 was my standard setup with full poly. When I tried Gut at 50, it was too powerful, so I increased the tension and 54 felt great and never looked back
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
meant to ask in the other thread, but what did AM think of TGK57.5? of course he ended back up with his PT57A, but I would imagine he would have had some feedback on it given the wide net he cast for testing different frames
I don't think he tested that one ever. It is 18x20, it is retail and possibly not easy to achieve his setup (weight, balance, SW, TW...). It is also LOWER powered than his current PT57A, so I do not see the logic in him trying the PT2.0.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
How?? He had the same old set up when he hit his peak in 2016 making 3 GS finals (winning one), won mulitple titles that included the WTF and Olympic Gold.
I believe he should have switched then, he started slowing down immediately after 2016 and it would have benefitted him.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
I believe he should have switched then, he started slowing down immediately after 2016 and it would have benefitted him.
I think he got injured pretty much at the start of 2017/possibly during the offseason - not sure the strings had anything to do with it
 
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).
Has he tried the pt346? If it works for djokovic it might work for him... I imagine it's a bit more powerful too
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
I think he got injured pretty much at the start of 2017/possibly during the offseason - not sure the strings had anything to do with it
I was saying that regardless of injuries, he was getting old and slow and extremely slow by 2018, switching by 2016/2017 would have been smart rather than not being stuck in his ways until it’s too late. My opinion, at least.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
I was saying that regardless of injuries, he was getting old and slow and extremely slow by 2018, switching by 2016/2017 would have been smart rather than not being stuck in his ways until it’s too late. My opinion, at least.
Literally when his hip injury happened… of course he was slow…
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Literally when his hip injury happened… of course he was slow…
Point still stands in my opinion. Murray’s movement had been consistently getting slower year by year, by that point he should have just swapped the strings around.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
He was getting slower, less power, could have used the gut Mains over crosses. Hindsight is 20/20 of course.
He was #1, won Wimbledon, Olympics, Masters in Rome, Shanghai, Paris and the WTF. Why would he consider changing a thing after that season?
He slowed down because of injury not strings. Around 2021/2022 maybe he could have considered some changes (which he did in 2022 briefly)
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
I was at IW yesterday watching Murray practice. During the practice session, he had brought out two rackets to test, and at least one had a different string setup. It had a bronze hue to the stringbed, possible a Lux Element. But tbh, I wasn't really pay that much attention. But at one point, when Murray was practicing his serving, the racket completely slip out of his hand and smacked onto the ground, to the disbelief of all of us sitting courtside. He tossed the racket to the side as it was probably cracked. I wanted to stick around and maybe ask the coach if I could have the racket, but ended up leaving early for another court.
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).

Nice, that’s what I’m using now. VS main/ALU cross. The switch was easy, added exactly what was lacking. Slight adjustment but nothing major. Biggest improvement was feeling the longer ball dwell time on the strings and more comfortable less harsh feel. I can’t go back.
 

Federerkblade

Hall of Fame
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).
How long does this set up last you before you feel a loss of control ? Hawk rough lasts long time as cross , big tension difference in cross , is this with your novak racquets too ?
 

Federerkblade

Hall of Fame
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Nice, that’s what I’m using now. VS main/ALU cross. The switch was easy, added exactly what was lacking. Slight adjustment but nothing major. Biggest improvement was feeling the longer ball dwell time on the strings and more comfortable less harsh feel. I can’t go back.
how long does the set up last before tension loss
 

Wurm

Professional
He started looking like old man Murray in Australia in 2017. It was all down hill from there.

IIRC his 2017 went something like: Shingles, Flu, shoulder injury, Flu again, hip past the point of return. FIN.

From what I remember he looked fine at Doha a few weeks earlier but looked really sluggish at the AO and after the tournament revealed he had a bout of shingles. Even if he didn't have evidence of shingles at the tournament itself it's likely whatever had flattened his immune system was active during the tournament and slowing him down.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
IIRC his 2017 went something like: Shingles, Flu, shoulder injury, Flu again, hip past the point of return. FIN.

From what I remember he looked fine at Doha a few weeks earlier but looked really sluggish at the AO and after the tournament revealed he had a bout of shingles. Even if he didn't have evidence of shingles at the tournament itself it's likely whatever had flattened his immune system was active during the tournament and slowing him down.
elbow injury in there too

Murray's injuries (up to 2017)​

Knee injury - six months - 2004

Back injury - three months - 2005

Wrist injury - three months - 2007

Wrist injury - six weeks - 2009

Back injury - four weeks - 2013

Back injury - three months - 2014

Elbow injury - one month - 2017

Hip injury - 2017
 

swish41

Rookie
AM has tried multiple Head alternatives in search for more power and larger sweet spot (PT334.1 16x19, PT339.2, PT333.2, and a few other TGT frames). Ultimately, he came back to his trusted PT57A 16x19. Another way to increase power would be to put gut in the mains and poly crosses. However, it does require some adjustment.
Obviously, not comparing myself to AM, however, when I made a switch, i quit the setup a few times before I decided to give it enough time to adjust and feel comfortable and in control with the setup. I have been using this setup (gut @54; hawk rough @48) last 3-4 years and absolutely loving it (but it does not work well in all rackets -- some more powerful ones like Boom MP, Speed Pro, Extreme Pro...I'd stay away from this setup).
What is the retail model of PT333.2? Or did Head ever released that mold?
 
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