Murray superior to Federer in every aspect of the game apart from the forehand

[Blake0]

I would tend to agree with your list, although I wouldn't say Federer's known for a bad backhand. During his prime, it was excellent except vs. Nadal on clay. Now, it is still excellent when he's playing well, just it isn't as consistent.

Re return of serve, right now I'd say Murray; but if you're comparing primes, I'd say it's much closer and more difficult to tell. Mainly since Murray is such a passive player.

Sufficed to say, if Murray was really better than Federer in every aspect of the game except the forehand, he'd have multiple slams by now.

I also think Murray is particularly weak mentally and strategically.

I didnt mean fed's backhand being a weak shot..but weaker of the 2.."lesser of 2 evils" (forehand vs backhand) while murray is the opposite. Fed's also vulnerable in his backhand side somedays..especially now days..(i gotta agree with you though, during feds prime..his backhand dtl during 2006..especially against blake in a masters i think..amazing).Return of serve, fed has his moments but i see murray as an overall better returner because he can return the ball deep more often and doesn't tend to miss or chip as often as fed..especially this year.

Mentally fed would be stronger because of his match experiences in highly pressured situations (basically he's been more pressured then andy ever has since he became a consideration for GOAT).

Stragetically..im not sure..murray is known for his strategy and game plans..while federer does have good game plans too..i think i might give this to Andy.

 

[Docalex007]

LOL... after what just happened tonight, it's very easy to laugh at this thread.

Murray superior to Feds in every way besides the forehand? Who won tonight again?

Fed gave Murray a right good beating like he deserved. Poor brits.

 

[MuseFan]

Yeah what a stupid thread. Superior in choking perhaps.

 

[GustafsonFanatic]

oops



hehe



lol







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:lol:

 

[Blinkism]

Murray lost to Federer tonight, but he was very superior while doing it.

Excellent thread.

 

[rk_sports]

LOL... after what just happened tonight, it's very easy to laugh at this thread.

Murray superior to Feds in every way besides the forehand? Who won tonight again?

Fed gave Murray a right good beating like he deserved. Poor brits.

LOL!
Add to that Fed said it before the match that he wants to beat Murray. Now that makes it extra painful to swallow for Murray for sure! Plus in front of his home fans too.

IMHO, Fed has very little regard to Murray's game and that makes his thinking less clear.. not be himself.. calm and efficient.. now that approach costed him few matches.. ofcourse add some great retrieval abilities of Murray.. in-turn frustate Fed into making numerous unforced.
Now, Fed realized that .. that approach wont work and he has to work at it

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Sucker ............. the OP, I mean.

 

[TheMagicianOfPrecision]

I hope the OP have the decency to feel like a jackass now :twisted::twisted::twisted:

Oh, he is banned...:twisted:

 

[TheFifthSet]

You personally attacked me because we don't agree on whose is better. Wow, grow up,child.

Fixed.

Oh, and:

Prediction*

Learn how to spell,child...

You dummy.

 

[Omega_7000]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Anaconda]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

Footwork - Federer

Physical conditioning - Federer

Mental state - Federer

You conviniently forgot the most important characteristics to make it as a pro tennis player, probably because you know deep down that Federer is ahead of Murray in these three stage.

 

[Ambivalent]

Murray's 80 mph second serves sure are powerful. Also, according to OP he has good volleys? I am confused.

 

[Anaconda]

Murray's 80 mph second serves sure are powerful. Also, according to OP he has good volleys? I am confused.

It sets the point up well though!

 

[GustafsonFanatic]

This thread was started long ago by a banned poster.

Leave it be.

 

[Anaconda]

This thread was started long ago by a banned poster.

Leave it be.

Lol at your sig.

did serena actually say that?

 

[grafselesfan]

Damn, you beat me too it Nam. Oh well...I'll still post it. :twisted:

Steffi Graf is better than Monica Seles in nearly every aspect

Serve - Graf, no contest
Forehand - Graf, no contest
Backhand - Seles
Volleys - Graf, no contest
Return of serve - Even
Movement - Graf by such a significant margin that it would be utterly ridiculous for you to even compare the two here.

Oh, and the most important of all.

Number of Slams - Steffi Graf.

The only thing I see Seles having the advantage in is number of Big Macs eaten. She definetly would have won Wimbledon if it were a hot dog eating contest.

What complete disrespect for the great Monica Seles. Yes Graf is greater than Seles, Graf is the undisputed female GOAT and the greatest female player of all time on every major surface- grass, hard courts, and clay (I will give Navratilova indoors). However Seles was an incredible champion who despite taking a knife in the back when she was not yet 20 has almost as many slams as the great Serena, and more than greats like Henin and Venus (though especialy Henin will probably pass her but that is aside the point). Had it not been for the stabbing Seles would likely currently be the 2nd greatest female player of all time behind only the incredible Graf. She most certainly would have won Wimbledon in 1994, with chances of winning in 1997 and 1998 as well, without the horrific stabbing. She has arguably the greatest return of serve and groundstrokes womens tennis has ever seen, and is one of the games all time fiercest competitors. She also is an extremely classy and beloved women, who has kept an amazing sense of perspective through a trying and difficult series of events in her life that transpired over nearly a whole decade- from the brutal stabbing, her fathers illness and subsequent death, her own eating disorder.

 

[jamesblakefan#1]

What complete disrespect for the great Monica Seles. Yes Graf is greater than Seles, Graf is the undisputed female GOAT and the greatest female player of all time on every major surface- grass, hard courts, and clay (I will give Navratilova indoors). However Seles was an incredible champion who despite taking a knife in the back when she was not yet 20 has almost as many slams as the great Serena, and more than greats like Henin and Venus (though especialy Henin will probably pass her but that is aside the point). Had it not been for the stabbing Seles would likely currently be the 2nd greatest female player of all time behind only the incredible Graf. She most certainly would have won Wimbledon in 1994, with chances of winning in 1997 and 1998 as well, without the horrific stabbing. She has arguably the greatest return of serve and groundstrokes womens tennis has ever seen, and is one of the games all time fiercest competitors. She also is an extremely classy and beloved women, who has kept an amazing sense of perspective through a trying and difficult series of events in her life that transpired over nearly a whole decade- from the brutal stabbing, her fathers illness and subsequent death, her own eating disorder.

My post was a joke in response to the trolling, Seles loving OP julesb.

Obviously not meant to be taken seriously.

Funny how you quoted my post, seeing as how NamRanger posted damn near the exact same thing, save for the quip about Big Mac eating contests. So yeah, my post was a joke. But thanks for wasting 5 minutes of your life to address a joke as if it were serious.

 

[crackbillionair]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

You're only as good as your 2nd serve. That means Murray sucks. Murray is 15 slam titles less superior than Roger.

 

[malakas]

In video-game Murray is certainly superior in every aspect.

 

[Carsomyr]

Et tu, GSF?



This is like the Great Purge, only considerably less fun.

 

[coloskier]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

Serve better? Surely you jest. Fed has more aces for the year, and he doesn't hit 85 mph 2nd serves.
Return of serve, can't argue that one. Murray has the best ROS on tour.
Forehand, Yes, Fed
Backhand, Consistency - Murray, winners - Fed
Volleys, When does Murray ever volley unless it is a sitter???? I don't think he has hit a volley knee level or lower all year. Not that Fed hits it much better. I like Fed, but like most players on tour, he really doesn't handle difficult volleys very well (add Nadal to this list). Stepanek, Dent, and Ljubicic all volley better than Fed and Murray.
Movement, Murray is quicker/faster, Fed is much smoother.

 

[Blinkism]

Unfortunately for Murray, Federer's math skills ARE superior to Murray's...

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[egn]

Winning the matches that matter most - Federer..

topic over.

 

[SoBad]

Murray sometimes finds a way to explore Djokovic weaknesses.

 

[Vcore89]

17 slams plus 6 Tennis Masters Cup/WTF?

 

[Levi_Ackerman]

@Mr Feeny I see you've quoted me on the 2016 Rome Masters Final Novak Djokovic vs Andy Murray thread. You know the deal.

 

[djokerer]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

Murray was born in the wrong era. If Rafa and shower didn't exist and Murray and federer are of same generation, Murray will more slams than federer

 

[metsman]

epick stuff. What a thread, what a country

 

[SoBad]

I think you need to stop eating the old cheetos you find in your couch.

Either corn chips with mild salsa or plain potato chips for me.

 

[SoBad]

When Murray has 16 majors, bump this thread.

LMAO

 

[clout]

LOL WTF is this

 

[SoBad]

LOL WTF is this

What on Earth is going on here? I second this.

 

[Third Serve]

Next, you'll tell me Santoro was a better player than Federer in everything but the serve.

wait

 

[Tenez101]

There is a parallel universe where Muzz has 16 slams

 

[Gary Duane]

Yikes, from the vault of amazingly stupid OPs...

 

[King No1e]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

Serve: Federer (He has a more accurate 1st, and Murray's 2nd is very average)
Return: Murray
Forehand: Federer
Backhand: Murray
Volleys: Federer EASILY. Fed is the best volleyer since Sampras. Murray is good but he's no Federer at the net.
Movement: Murray, although Federer is more efficient.

 

[Devin]

Mury GOAT

 

[BH40love]

This **** is ridiculous no wonder ppl stop coming to this forum. Total trolls

 

[Pheasant]

MuryGOAT vs Federer

Mental strength: MuryGOAT by a long shot
Net game: MuryGOAT by a long shot
Forehand: MuryGOAT by a long shot.
Variety: MuryGOAT by a long shot
Overall: MuryGOAT by a long shot.
Better name? please!!

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Murray has always been an overrated muppet.

 

[skaj]

Serve: Federer (He has a more accurate 1st, and Murray's 2nd is very average)
Return: Murray
Forehand: Federer
Backhand: Murray
Volleys: Federer EASILY. Fed is the best volleyer since Sampras. Murray is good but he's no Federer at the net.
Movement: Murray, although Federer is more efficient.

Not that easily, Murray is a fine volleyer(not as good as Federer, yes). And Federer the best volleyer since Sampras is a bit exaggerated, Stepanek is at least as good, probably better, there was also Llodra...

For movement, Murray has more raw foot speed, but tennis movement is more than sheer speed, so Federer has the edge there actually.

 

[skaj]

Murray is really a better mover? Not sure on that.

Return I am not sure either. Murray is probably a better offensive return, but Federer might be the best defensive returner ever. OK Murray might be ahead, both are amongst the best returners ever after Djokovic/Agassi though.

Murray has an excellent defensive return(better than Djokovic and Agassi probably, but I would rank them higher overall of course). And there were other great defensive returners, like Hewitt or Nalbandian.

 

[gullyfoyleisback]

Poor guy, had more serious injuries than seems fair, 160 million in the bank, been in all the slam finals, won three, olympic gold x2 Davis Cup, world no 1, end of year ATP champ, liked in the locker room, always gives respect to his opponents in defeat, friendly and appreciated by the big three,
And still he’s not good enough to leave alone to lick his wounds,

 

[Slybluesam]

Nadal and Djokovic May argue Murray at his best was a harder opponent than Federer outdoors.

 

[SoBad]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

Jules, are you on crack? Murray second serve would make a decent 14yo regional girl blush with embarrassment.

 

[thrust]

Andy Murray is superior to Roger Federer in all aspects of the game apart from the forehand. Lets break it down:

Serve- Murray's is better, more power
Return of Serve- Murray, no contest
Forehand- Federer
Backhand- Murray, again no contest
Volleys- Murray easily
Movement- Murray is quicker

Pretty weak the so called GOAT is inferior to a slamless 1 time slam finalist in almost all aspects of the game, LOL!

Amazing that the vastly superior player has only 3 slams, and the inferior player has 20. How can that be?

 

[Bhagi Katbamna]

Can't believe this is a 12 page thread. Federer's serve is much better as is his net play. I don't just mean first serve and second serve speed or whatever, I mean the plays he runs after the serve.

 

[gullyfoyleisback]

Please.... this thread dragged up from a point in time where what could have been, and turned out not to be is a magnet for righteous indignation, yes Andy didn’t rule the roost, we know that, what he did have was a solid career as the best of the rest.
So s*d off and express your sad spare time somewhere else... preferably casting your ire at generation useless.

 

[JaoSousa]

Murray serve better than Federer's? NO WAY

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

lol