Murray Testing Gut Mains

NikeUp

Rookie
Hi,

I follow a Twitter account of some stringers/customisers and they posted a pic of Murray's rackets they strung, it looks like he's using gut mains!?

Maybe he's finally testing it out to get some extra power?

And looks like the old pj!


Regards,

NikeUp

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sixone90

Hall of Fame
Too hard to tell from the top racquet with all the reflection but I see Luxilon Mains in the second racquet
 

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
Top racquet seems to have a sheen on the crosses that wouldn't necessarily be there with gut. I could see this as possible..
 

junk

Semi-Pro
top racket looks like gut mains and lux crosses but the second from top looks the opposite - gut crosses instead of mains
 

outta'time

New User
I am almost 100% sure that this is nothing more than a practice test-racquet. Andy likes to try numerous setups.
At one time, he had a heavier racquet to try in practice. It's not a big deal.
The real thing was when he came to the 2014 European clay court-swing wielding an 18x20. That was something unexpected at first, but to be honest, I think he was trying to find something in his game in that horrible 2014 season.
 

7zero

Semi-Pro
I am almost 100% sure that this is nothing more than a practice test-racquet. Andy likes to try numerous setups.
At one time, he had a heavier racquet to try in practice. It's not a big deal.
The real thing was when he came to the 2014 European clay court-swing wielding an 18x20. That was something unexpected at first, but to be honest, I think he was trying to find something in his game in that horrible 2014 season.
great to hear I am not the only one who try new gear when my game sucks.. :D
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I am almost 100% sure that this is nothing more than a practice test-racquet. Andy likes to try numerous setups.
At one time, he had a heavier racquet to try in practice. It's not a big deal.
The real thing was when he came to the 2014 European clay court-swing wielding an 18x20. That was something unexpected at first, but to be honest, I think he was trying to find something in his game in that horrible 2014 season.
He was also going back to 18x20 at that time. He started out with 18x20
 
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Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Always wondered why go poly mains with a natural guy hybrid. I would think you'd want the feel and power of the gut in the mains, but I guess to each his own.
 

Ihatetennis

Hall of Fame
Always wondered why go poly mains with a natural guy hybrid. I would think you'd want the feel and power of the gut in the mains, but I guess to each his own.
the natural gut crosses softens up the string bed without changing a lot of the playing quality.

I know that all the people I have seen with natural gut have strung it in the crosses.
 

KFwinds

Professional
Forget the strings; anyone else notice the beam on those frames? Definitely not G-Rad Pros...

Almost looks like Prestige-type frame
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
the natural gut crosses softens up the string bed without changing a lot of the playing quality.

I know that all the people I have seen with natural gut have strung it in the crosses.
I think that the main reason why people do that way is that the strings last more than using a reverse hybrid (gut on mains), but also the sensations are different depending on which of the two type one uses.
 

roger presley

Hall of Fame
There is no need in spending money for gut in the crosses. You can put multi or synthetic gut. Pros don't care about money,so it's ok for them. If you want to explore all the benefits that gut can give you,gut must be mains.
 

tribesmen

Professional
There is no need in spending money for gut in the crosses. You can put multi or synthetic gut. Pros don't care about money,so it's ok for them. If you want to explore all the benefits that gut can give you,gut must be mains.
The feel is different with gut crosses. It's waste of money putting syn crosses, it's better then to have full poly setup, just my two cents.
 
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outta'time

New User
I think it's a matter of individual preference.
I started out with full synthetic gut, then switched to full poly with tecnifibre's black code (used that for two years). After some time, I began to experiment, I tried out hybriding with multi+poly, with multifilaments in the mains. I never thought of putting multi in the crosses, but one day I actually did it, and I have been playing with multi crosses poly mains fot the last two and a half years. I often string one of my racquets with a full bed of poly just to have something different. I'm pretty sure this will change eventually. I really like my last full poly setup, which was the neon green head lynx. And I use some despised and non-canonic (sadly, that's what a lot of people think about Pro's Pro, Topspin, MSV, Signum Pro, etc) brands, especialy in my crosses. These brands are as good as others.
There's no point in debating which hybrid setup is better and why. And come on... Debating about pro players' strings? I guess they get to play more tennis than the entire forum. Don't you think they can decide what's the best setup?
Don't waste your time; get out and play some tennis instead. :)
 

EasternRocks

Hall of Fame
the idea that synthetic crosses is just as good as natural gut crosses is so wrong. the natural gut will give you some more comfort, since it is a softer string. it also has the best pocketing of any string, so it will definitely reduce some of the stiffness of the poly mains even more so than multi crosses. it does, however, lower your launch angle and make the string bed lock in. ultimately, if you want to maximize the spin potential of your string bed, do not use anything to cross poly mains because snap back will be inhibited.
the best string set up IMO is gut/poly, but there are so many different combinations of guts and polys that everybody has their own taste of hybrid.

for me, i'm trying to move up from 1.30 vs touch to 1.25 vs team because I never break string. crosses, I'm a yonex sponsored player so I have some string to tinker around with
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Pros do a lot of things regular folk can't do, because we have to pay for it and they don't. They can get prostock platform rackets and modify them up the yang. They can put gut in the crosses and change rackets every 7 games. They aren't restricted based on finances or jobs or skill-limitations.

Gut in the crosses is a waste of money IMO as you don't get as much out of the gut as you do with it in the mains. Your poly still goes dead just as quick. The stringbed gets locked just as quickly. Sure its a bit softer than syn gut crosses, but it's not going to win you Nationals for that 30 extra dollars a stringjob.

Full poly offers best control worst longevity IMO and Gut/poly offers best longevity and second best control. poly/multi or poly/syngut offer best price point but worst control and second worst longevity. Sadly there is no perfect string setup, largely because its not in the manufacturer's best interest to make a durable, cheap, plush, high spin string.
 

KFwinds

Professional
That is because actually, under the paint, there is a PT57A, aka Head Pro Tour 630...

Thanks - I did find that info after I posted; I thought it kind of looked "familiar". Like many others out there I'm still kicking myself for selling my last PT 280 that I purchased from a clearance bin at local sporting goods store for around $40. Seems like you're lucky now to touch a used frame for under $150
 

tribesmen

Professional
Pros do a lot of things regular folk can't do, because we have to pay for it and they don't. They can get prostock platform rackets and modify them up the yang. They can put gut in the crosses and change rackets every 7 games. They aren't restricted based on finances or jobs or skill-limitations.

Gut in the crosses is a waste of money IMO as you don't get as much out of the gut as you do with it in the mains. Your poly still goes dead just as quick. The stringbed gets locked just as quickly. Sure its a bit softer than syn gut crosses, but it's not going to win you Nationals for that 30 extra dollars a stringjob.

Full poly offers best control worst longevity IMO and Gut/poly offers best longevity and second best control. poly/multi or poly/syngut offer best price point but worst control and second worst longevity. Sadly there is no perfect string setup, largely because its not in the manufacturer's best interest to make a durable, cheap, plush, high spin string.
IMO gut crosses is not a waste of money for those people who exactly know why to put gut crosses and what benefits they are getting with such setup. In general hybrid is for those who know what they want to get from different strings, different tensions, etc., and not because to copy what pro do e.g. if Fed uses gut/poly that doesn't mean it's also ok for you. This is the same like drinking a beer after match in good company, if you enjoy good company and have a good time than the bear is not a waste of money, but if you are drink it just to drink something then maybe it is a waste of money :)
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
Thanks - I did find that info after I posted; I thought it kind of looked "familiar". Like many others out there I'm still kicking myself for selling my last PT 280 that I purchased from a clearance bin at local sporting goods store for around $40. Seems like you're lucky now to touch a used frame for under $150
You are right, I bought mine for 110€ but I was lucky because it's a 1st generation (MIA) in very good condition...
Anyway it worth every € [emoji16]
 
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