Murray testing other Head racquets

jmacdaununder2 said:
Which of the excellent retail models above am I able to purchase as a longer than standard length - as per the retail offerings from Yonex and Babolat? Head has no problem providing pro stock longbodies, hence my post.
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Head perfected extended length frames with the Ti.S6 and 5, which are 27.75 inches. They cannot top their own crowing achievement.

Oh, and the PWR frames.
 
I really was hoping he’d stick to the MP that was 99. He was starting to look better with the extra help it just takes getting over that initial struggle phase. He’s not going to adjust in time to anything else for the AO.
 
CiscoPC600 said:
I really was hoping he’d stick to the MP that was 99. He was starting to look better with the extra help it just takes getting over that initial struggle phase. He’s not going to adjust in time to anything else for the AO.
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Agreed. In the match he lost last week it wasn’t the stick, it was all the break points missed in set 1.
 
jmacdaununder2 said:
Which of the excellent retail models above am I able to purchase as a longer than standard length - as per the retail offerings from Yonex and Babolat? Head has no problem providing pro stock longbodies, hence my post.
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If you can find a pro stock and have it either cut down to your preferred length, or lengthened by a pro customizer, these can be glorious. (Prestige and radical molds) ... but you really are better off with the pro stock route because they come lighter and are more suitable for the added length and the SW that will come. As for retail extended offerings, if you haven’t already I would look at the Pro Kennex 7G and Q+5X pro, both phenomenal extended racquets.
 
JGads said:
If you can find a pro stock and have it either cut down to your preferred length, or lengthened by a pro customizer, these can be glorious. (Prestige and radical molds) ... but you really are better off with the pro stock route because they come lighter and are more suitable for the added length and the SW that will come. As for retail extended offerings, if you haven’t already I would look at the Pro Kennex 7G and Q+5X pro, both phenomenal extended racquets.
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Thanks for the reply. The Pro Kennexes are a good recommendation subject to availability. I've been using weighted 28" Prince Equipe 95s and a couple of 730 97s since the late 90s. At 60 I'm gradually ageing out of them, and the racquets are ageing themselves, although I've acquired 14 of them over the years. Babolat PDT+ has proven somewhat usable, although the harsh feel leaves a lot to be desired; I'm looking forward to trying the 2022 EZone 98+. Unfortunately I've backed myself into a corner somewhat - at least as far as updates go - by playing with such a high SW and extra length for so many years. Even at this stage, I'm still playing pretty well with the Princes, but I'm in need of replacements.
It frustrates me no end that Head - and Prince, for that matter - don't provide contemporary 'players' retail longbody models, given how many of their pros use them, and the availability of retail longbody versions from other manufacturers, such as Babs and Yonex.
BITD Austrian made Head racquets - Twintubes in particular - were the industry's gold standard; sponsored pros, and Head insiders, still benefit from this manufacturing excellence - and can choose whatever length they desire. The rest of us devotees of more traditional longbodies are left to pay exorbitant prices for used prostock, or make due with what's out there at retail.
 
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jmacdaununder2 said:
Thanks for the reply. The Pro Kennexes are a good recommendation subject to availability. I've been using weighted 28" Prince Equipe 95s and a couple of 730 97s since the late 90s. At 60 I'm gradually ageing out of them, and the racquets are ageing themselves, although I've acquired 14 of them over the years. Babolat PDT+ has proven somewhat usable, although the harsh feel leaves a lot to be desired; I'm looking forward to trying the 2022 EZone 98+. Unfortunately I've backed myself into a corner somewhat - at least as far as updates go - by playing with such a high SW and extra length for so many years. Even at this stage, I'm still playing pretty well with the Princes, but I'm in need of replacements.
It frustrates me no end that Head - and Prince, for that matter - don't provide contemporary 'players' retail longbody models, given how many of their pros use them, and the availability of retail longbody versions from other manufacturers, such as Babs and Yonex.
BITD Austrian made Head racquets - Twintubes in particular - were the industry's gold standard; sponsored pros, and Head insiders, still benefit from this manufacturing excellence - and can choose whatever length they desire. The rest of us devotees of more traditional longbodies are left to pay exorbitant prices for used prostock, or make due with what's out there at retail.
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Highly, highly recommend the Q+5x Pro. Phenomenal extended racquet. Doesn’t seem to be at TWUS but I know it is available in the States. Demo one if you can. Or the 7G.

https://www.tenniswarehouse-europe...._305g_Racket/descpageRCWESTGUT-Q5XKP0-EN.html
 
RoarTT said:
It's that new mold for the Prestige MP-L with the PT57A layup he's testing :)
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Ah ok. Didn't realize that racquet is also a 16x19 so I got caught off guard by the string pattern. Hope to see him move forward in Sydney. Match vs. Basilashvili should be good. Highlights from todays match looked good with the new racquet too.
 
FutureF1 said:
Ah ok. Didn't realize that racquet is also a 16x19 so I got caught off guard by the string pattern. Hope to see him move forward in Sydney. Match vs. Basilashvili should be good. Highlights from todays match looked V look good with the new racquet too.
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The announcers talked about the racquet a lot today, but also talked about Durasovic’s racquet. They seem to think they he would have played better with a smaller head.
 
taylor15 said:
The announcers talked about the racquet a lot today, but also talked about Durasovic’s racquet. They seem to think they he would have played better with a smaller head.
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Yeah it was at like 4 AM for me so tough to watch live haha. Guess I missed those comments
 
FutureF1 said:
Yeah it was at like 4 AM for me so tough to watch live haha. Guess I missed those comments
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I watched it on the Tennis TV app. I turn off the spoilers (score and timeline) and that way I can watch without knowing outcome. Got up at 6 to watch it before work, well worth it.
 
I watched the highlights so my impression is distorted.. but Murray was hitting so short in the court, barely getting it beyond the service line. Even on the points he controlled.
 
ls206 said:
I watched the highlights so my impression is distorted.. but Murray was hitting so short in the court, barely getting it beyond the service line. Even on the points he controlled.
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Curious if the extra spin from the more open pattern is causing shorter shots? I noticed at times too but overall I felt like he was hitting well. He did clip the net with his backhand some - which is not usually an issue for him. I am not convinced that’s the racquet.
 
dr325i said:
I use the PT57A and have the access to pretty much everything from Head.
With that said, I have tested the following retail sticks (in the last 3-4 months): Boom Pro, Auxetic Prestige Pro, Auxetic Prestige MP-L, Extreme Tour, Radical Pro and MP, Gravity Pro and Tour, and all of them are excellent rackets and a few adopted by the Pros. Head retail offering is the widest in industry and very nice quality that fits everyone's need and style...

On the other hand, I wish they would offer better selection of clothing in the USA because their Euro stuff is excellent quality and very competitively priced.
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You should do a video like Karue from MyTennisHQ comparing all of the lines..!
 
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taylor15 said:
Curious if the extra spin from the more open pattern is causing shorter shots? I noticed at times too but overall I felt like he was hitting well. He did clip the net with his backhand some - which is not usually an issue for him. I am not convinced that’s the racquet.
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The new racquet he seems to be using here in that pic above has a much more open 16*19 pattern than his old Pt57 did. The extra spin would certainly do that
 
In the murrray vs durasovic match, I was surprised that the commentator said durasovic needs a smaller racquet (comment happens at the 5-2 change over in the first set). Isn't he aware that's the same racquet zverev and rublev are using and those guys are top 10? They have both been able to beat murray with it.
 
power_backhand said:
In the murrray vs durasovic match, I was surprised that the commentator said durasovic needs a smaller racquet (comment happens at the 5-2 change over in the first set). Isn't he aware that's the same racquet zverev and rublev are using and those guys are top 10? They have both been able to beat murray with it.
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Which commentator said this? He/She probably thinks that had Rafa would have won 30 majors by now if he’d used a sub-100sq inch stick.
 
dr325i said:
Even you realized some things when you created your account…
Don’t see anything funny in your post…
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How about…. actually you are just rude.
nominative predetermination aside if you are ever in Moron, we could take a drive to Mar del Plata to see Vilas’ home town. He is a Head legend. Illness made him a shadow of what he was. Djokovic managed that by himself.
 
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I'll be rooting for this racquet. Having hit a slightly modded MP-L (and will some more), the racquet gives a sense of being able to rally all day long with it and gives you access to every kind of shot/spin you'd like to impart. Just feels quite capable. On first impression was just a little bit disappointed with the feel. Doesn't feel like the other Auxetics or a Prestige, really. Lacking that smoothness. Silicone would probably help a lot. But it's a very interesting frame. I'm sure Murray's stick - this mold with a PT57A layup - is phenomenal.
 
McEncock said:
From @dr325i :

You bake the pt57a lay-up in the TK334 (MP's mold name) and you obtain the PT334, a racquet which is very close to pt57a but with a 99sqinch head instead of 95.
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That is correct. The differences are:
- different mold feels and flexes different
- the weight gets distributed differently and additional weights are added in specific spots.

so, it does have that feel of the PT57A but measured flex was 60-61RA strung vs mid/upper 50s.
 
dr325i said:
That is correct. The differences are:
- different mold feels and flexes different
- the weight gets distributed differently and additional weights are added in specific spots.

so, it does have that feel of the PT57A but measured flex was 60-61RA strung vs mid/upper 50s.
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So:

layup = feel, stiffness, flex, and materials

mold = shape, beam width, head size.

?
 
CiscoPC600 said:
So:

layup = feel, stiffness, flex, and materials

mold = shape, beam width, head size.

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I think the mold is pretty self explanatory

the layup is the “mixture” you put in the mold and bake to make the racket…gives you specific feel, flex, stiffness and balance (weight distribution)
 
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