Murray to Yonex

Honza

Semi-Pro
So?



The only way to find out is for someone on the inside to divulge details. I’d be surprised if that happens anytime soon, if at all.

So you dont know and just pretend to know that Murrays interview was a lie.
I heard similar things from the lizard people.
 

am1899

Legend
So you dont know and just pretend to know that Murrays interview was a lie.
I heard similar things from the lizard people.

I don’t pretend anything.

Someone in a position to know inside info already said in this very thread that that story is not how it happened. And I believe him.

(You should keep listening to the lizard people though, clearly its serving you well).
 

PistolPete23

Hall of Fame
So ya’ll believe TN’s story bc AM went to press and parroted it?

I have a bridge to sell.
He said he bought a bunch of racquets and used Hawkeye to test them. Too detailed to be a made-up story for the press. And again, why would he lie? Both Roddick and BG have corroborated his story of using Hawkeye to rigorously test racquets.

 

Honza

Semi-Pro
I don’t pretend anything.

Someone in a position to know inside info already said in this very thread that that story is not how it happened. And I believe him.

(You should keep listening to the lizard people though, clearly its serving you well).


Can you quote the inside info and name the position of the member?
 

am1899

Legend
He said he bought a bunch of racquets and used Hawkeye to test them. Too detailed to be a made-up story for the press. And again, why would he lie? Both Roddick and BG have corroborated his story of using Hawkeye to rigorously test racquets.


I read what he said.

“Too detailed to be made-up” is a laughable argument.

“Roddick and BG” come on now :-D
 

jimdontcare

Rookie
Not sure if you're referring to me; but whether you are or you aren't, we work with sensitive information and can't share that with the general public. We're not looking to belittle anyone, merely point out that some 'info' has been point out that was based on speculation and not actual facts.

We get asked can we supply specs, or string info by people all the time. Yes, we're in a position to have access to players details, and if we had the time we could get all their specs. But even if we did, we don't give that info out. We have also signed documents that say we wont release any information that we are privy too during a tournament. Even if such document isnt in place, then there's an unwritten rule that a stringer does reveal that. Clearly some dont adhere to that.

There are other people on here that are privy to all sorts of info that cant be released to the public at the time, but could in due course.

You can decide whether you understand and accept what I say; or to take an opposing view. I dont mind. I will refrain from making any further comment on this thread.
I don't understand what the controversy is.

I don't know why Murray buying a bunch of racquets to test and picking is unbelievable. That's the fastest way to try stuff, even if you're an all-time great. Nobody privy to sensitive information even suggested that this was the "not actual facts" part of the story.

It seems pretty clear that Murray's playing with an actual Ezone based on photos and the recurring story that Yonex really doesn't customize racquets for their pros. It also seems clear it's not a money play since he's not actually sponsored by Yonex (at least I assume so, since there's no stencil).

I don't know what hidden info stringers could have that would suggest TN and Andy are lying about the story, and the obsession with it looks really weird
 

jrzinho

New User
The real story behind the switch is that the isometric head shape and large size of the EZ100 provide Andy great stability to rest between points
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jrzinho

New User
I do believe in the story about the store-bought frames by Murray. I figured there aren't that many tennis retail stores carrying Yonex EZ100 in Miami so I checked the IG pages of the most popular ones. Turns out one of them reposted the @tennisphere video just above and commented on it.
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Doubters will say they are opportunistically riding the fabricated story to grab attention though. I believe some people here were heavily involved in "Phase 1" of the testing (getting 6 to 10 matched EZ100s and supporting the heavy spec refining work). So much that they refuse to consider that there could have been a "Phase 0" where Andy just tried a variety of retail models that he prepared himself
 

PistolPete23

Hall of Fame
I do believe in the story about the store-bought frames by Murray. I figured there aren't that many tennis retail stores carrying Yonex EZ100 in Miami so I checked the IG pages of the most popular ones. Turns out one of them reposted the @tennisphere video just above and commented on it.
IMG-4905.jpg

Doubters will say they are opportunistically riding the fabricated story to grab attention though. I believe some people here were heavily involved in "Phase 1" of the testing (getting 6 to 10 matched EZ100s and supporting the heavy spec refining work). So much that they refuse to consider that there could have been a "Phase 0" where Andy just tried a variety of retail models that he prepared himself
Nah, they’re all in cahoots to sell a fabricated story. Also, the earth is flat.
 
What 93 lol. A PT57A is a 98 when measured from the outside, 95 when measured conventionally. Murray never used anything below a 95.
Measured from the outside!
If you actually do the math you'll find that it's just more smoke & mirrors from Head.:sneaky:
 

devoker

Rookie
I do believe in the story about the store-bought frames by Murray. I figured there aren't that many tennis retail stores carrying Yonex EZ100 in Miami so I checked the IG pages of the most popular ones. Turns out one of them reposted the @tennisphere video just above and commented on it.
IMG-4905.jpg

Doubters will say they are opportunistically riding the fabricated story to grab attention though. I believe some people here were heavily involved in "Phase 1" of the testing (getting 6 to 10 matched EZ100s and supporting the heavy spec refining work). So much that they refuse to consider that there could have been a "Phase 0" where Andy just tried a variety of retail models that he prepared himself
If you watch the video he says he bought them from a store.

So tennisnerd was correct after all :)
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
So?



The only way to find out is for someone on the inside to divulge details. I’d be surprised if that happens anytime soon, if at all.

How different could the "real" story be though? He obviously tried out some new racquets and he's playing with a Yonex at the moment, customized to his specs. What could the "true, insider" information be: that he's not playing with Yonex?

What on earth is all the contention over? Some people think he didn't go into a store and buy them and that he's lying? What would the point of doing that? Just because it's a fun story? Even if the story wasn't true, the basic fact of Andy Murray trying out and playing with a new racquet remains true.
Nah, they’re all in cahoots to sell a fabricated story. Also, the earth is flat.

There are probably posters in this thread who think the earth is flat...
 

Guttersnipe

Rookie
Honestly I feel like Andy only really tested his coach’s Ezone (& connections) and said Fk it...I’ll get a couple and hyperinflated a true story.
Yonex have pretty much paid him to say “Yonex better than the rest”.

When I watch that Vid it reminded me of Novak recently at his Speed Legend press release talking about how he played with each different racquet and the tech improvements...
 

bobeeto

Professional
Honestly I feel like Andy only really tested his coach’s Ezone (& connections) and said Fk it...I’ll get a couple and hyperinflated a true story.
Yonex have pretty much paid him to say “Yonex better than the rest”.

When I watch that Vid it reminded me of Novak recently at his Speed Legend press release talking about how he played with each different racquet and the tech improvements...
Idk, Andy is pretty meticulous for testing frames. Liam broady also mentioned how he tested every frame on the market - don’t doubt a tennis obsessed person who’s full time job is tennis
 

devoker

Rookie
Yeah, I watched the video that the election was stolen. So, it must have been stolen ;)
I am talking about the interview Andy had. It is not a speculation anymore, he says it himself that he went to a store and bought the racquets.
Why would Andy lie? It seems silly for it to be some kind of marketing trick.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
I don't understand what the controversy is.

I don't know why Murray buying a bunch of racquets to test and picking is unbelievable. That's the fastest way to try stuff, even if you're an all-time great. Nobody privy to sensitive information even suggested that this was the "not actual facts" part of the story.

It seems pretty clear that Murray's playing with an actual Ezone based on photos and the recurring story that Yonex really doesn't customize racquets for their pros. It also seems clear it's not a money play since he's not actually sponsored by Yonex (at least I assume so, since there's no stencil).

I don't know what hidden info stringers could have that would suggest TN and Andy are lying about the story, and the obsession with it looks really weird

Exactly! There's no mystery that we need Sherlock Holmes to come unravel: he's trying out a new racquet. What's the secret info: that the Japanese PM called up the royal family and told them he wanted Murray using Yonex as a part of a multinational deal?
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
I think he tried everything etc... and probably really liked the Yonex frames (he tests racquets with hawkeye which say how much spin and power he's getting etc... - he's done this at TennisLab/ Tennis Australia when he's been here, and they do it at LTA too) and saw the noticeable change - Obv the racquets etc he has now would have been supplied by Yonex with the bags etc... through his coaches relationship with Yonex (and I suppose the former Head guy who now works there), so I guess that could be the contention that Skippy etc... have (they think people are suggesting he is currently using frames he got at a shop rather than from Yonex, and that's also not what Andy's saying... so not sure what the hubub is) - but I really don't doubt that he did the initial tests by himself in his injury downtime and liked the ezone etc... and got supplied with some frames ahead of his comeback
 
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PistolPete23

Hall of Fame
Let's say the actual thing that happened is he got his team to contact different companies to send him racquets for testing, then asked whoever typically does the customization for him to lead up the sticks according to his preferred specs. At the end of the testing journey he chose the Yonex. Ok, what difference does this alternative account make compared to the story he told? Does either story make Yonex look better or worse? Or Head, for that matter? There's literally no incentive for him to lie.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
One of the things that irks me the most on here is ppl who claim to be "in the know" tell others that they're wrong, then refuse to divulge their knowledge. AM told a fantastic story - @uk_skippy and @racketspec imply he's not telling the truth, but they also refuse to set the record straight and provide the actual facts. Again, he's not under contract. Why tell a made up story?

There are posters here who say stuff like, "Federer lost the Olympics final to Murray because the queen paid him off a million dollars." There's no evidence, no facts; just a silly, stupid statement. This is similar, but it's more vague and trivial: "You don't know the real story about Andy Murray and Yonex." Okay...but the "real" story is always going to be dull as ditchwater. There's nothing that anyone could "reveal" here that would be more interesting them Murray physically playing with a new racquet...
 

Guttersnipe

Rookie
Some of you think Yonex paid Andy to switch lolololol!>!>>!?!??!!??!!?
He could Be campaigning/signaling to Yonex for a Post Retirement deal...why not chase the bag at the twilight late stage of his career? Especially if he’s no longer on Heads payroll.

Do we know for sure what grip/pallet he’s using?
 
He could Be campaigning/signaling to Yonex for a Post Retirement deal...why not chase the bag at the twilight late stage of his career? Especially if he’s no longer on Heads payroll.

Do we know for sure what grip/pallet he’s using?
I can't really reconcile your comment with me making light of those thinking he was paid to switch. But, I'll opine, no way he needs or would do anything with his racket for money, he's just looking to keep playing well.

Someone probably can tell from photos, I'd guess good old yonex grip.
 

kunos

New User
so to recap...

1) it is IMPOSSIBLE for a tennis player to actually walk into a tennis shop and buy some rackets. And if you believe that you're a weirdo
2) Murray ACTUALLY requested an urgent meeting with the shadow government of the UK and the Illuminati council to discuss his next equipment
3) Yonex was identified as the ideal partner due to their connection with the Anunnaki
4) A team of 25 writers lead by JJ Martin was secretly hired to come up with the store story, word by word
5) A secret operation was initiated to acquire compromising pictures of Jonas in order to then manipulate him to describe the events as convenient
6) AM just got destroyed in the second round of a challenger tournament but he's laughing his ass watching his secret bank account reading 20B+ thanks to this operation.

it all sounds pretty linear and logical to me
internet we did it again! congrats everybody
 
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