Murray vs Nadal on hard courts

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Here's how their stats look at the moment:

Slams: Murray - 1, Nadal - 3
Slam finals: Murray - 7, Nadal - 6
Masters: Murray - 10(+ 5 finals), Nadal - 8(+ 7 finals)
WTF: Murray - 2 semis, Nadal - 2 finals
Olympics: Murray - 1, Nadal - 1
Total titles: Murray - 26, Nadal - 16
W-L Record: Murray 390/ 111, Nadal - 375/ 113

So taking these numbers into account, how much more do you think Murray needs to win to go above Nadal on this surface?
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
Murray will never be able to reach the peak level Rafa reached on HC. But I can see him winning 2 more HC slams before he retires.
 

xFedal

Legend
Here's how their stats look at the moment:

Slams: Murray - 1, Nadal - 3
Slam finals: Murray - 7, Nadal - 6
Masters: Murray - 10(+ 5 finals), Nadal - 8(+ 7 finals)
WTF: Murray - 2 semis, Nadal - 2 finals
Olympics: Murray - 1, Nadal - 1
Total titles: Murray - 26, Nadal - 16
W-L Record: Murray 390/ 111, Nadal - 375/ 113

So taking these numbers into account, how much more do you think Murray needs to win to go above Nadal on this surface?
Murray to take the USO..... And then we will take Australian Open from Djokovic in 2017 and surpass Nadal at that point on Hard courts......
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Well Murray received help to win all his big titles, see t_p's brilliant thread, while Nadal deserves bonus points for doing the exact opposite in the AO 09 brutality. Therefore, I peg the slam count at around 5 to -1. So 7 unassisted unasterisked HC slams should do it for Murray.



 

Flint

Hall of Fame
I'd say Murray would need to win 2 more HC Grand Slams, with one of them preferably being the AO.
A couple more HC wins against Nadal wouldn't hurt either even if he is a shadow of his peak.
 
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