Murray will never make top 40

Pantera

Banned
Sadly, Murray if he continues to play singles will be just a journeyman pro from now on.

having watched his match v Gasquet there is no way he will get anywhere close to where he was at and really he should have had a total hip replacement as resurfacing is the worse choice to go for according to many surgeons. His movement was all wrong but his biggest problem is that 2nd serve will be creamed by any top 100 player.

I love the guy and its nice to see him healthy, but is he going to enjoy playing at barely 50% of what he was?
 

blablavla

Legend
Sadly, Murray if he continues to play singles will be just a journeyman pro from now on.

having watched his match v Gasquet there is no way he will get anywhere close to where he was at and really he should have had a total hip replacement as resurfacing is the worse choice to go for according to many surgeons. His movement was all wrong but his biggest problem is that 2nd serve will be creamed by any top 100 player.

I love the guy and its nice to see him healthy, but is he going to enjoy playing at barely 50% of what he was?
Give him a few matches to play.
Not everyone can come back as Federer did.
Also keep in mind that Djokovic for example looked very sad in the first matches, but then something clicked.
Also look at Wawrinka, he also required some time to get in shape. And he is still not there, if you compare to pre-injury.
Fognini required a lot of time to get back after injury.
 

RedBeard

Rookie
Watched him in a couple of practices before the Gasquet match and you could tell his serve was going to be a problem. Velocity and accuracy not there yet. But I think his serve can be fixed with time. I thought his movement looked okay. He's trimmed down a little bit (not as much muscle and bulk). He was favoring his backhand a little, so something's not clicking yet with his forehand.

I think his early return to singles was just his way of getting a gauge on where his body/game is at. I didn't see anything concerning, just didn't look "crisp" playing singles yet.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
Watched him in a couple of practices before the Gasquet match and you could tell his serve was going to be a problem. Velocity and accuracy not there yet. But I think his serve can be fixed with time. I thought his movement looked okay. He's trimmed down a little bit (not as much muscle and bulk). He was favoring his backhand a little, so something's not clicking yet with his forehand.

I think his early return to singles was just his way of getting a gauge on where his body/game is at. I didn't see anything concerning, just didn't look "crisp" playing singles yet.
He was actually running around his backhand a lot more than he used to.

Also his first serve speeds were better than before the total replacement. It was juts the %that was lacking. If his movement gets 5% better and he gets a bit more pop on his shots he'll be in a very decent place.
 

Pantera

Banned
Watched him in a couple of practices before the Gasquet match and you could tell his serve was going to be a problem. Velocity and accuracy not there yet. But I think his serve can be fixed with time. I thought his movement looked okay. He's trimmed down a little bit (not as much muscle and bulk). He was favoring his backhand a little, so something's not clicking yet with his forehand.

I think his early return to singles was just his way of getting a gauge on where his body/game is at. I didn't see anything concerning, just didn't look "crisp" playing singles yet.
That 2nd serve will be a massive problem. Needs to sort that out.
 

Pantera

Banned
He's been 'sorting' that out for the last 15 years! ;)
2016 it seemed a lot less attackable, but yesterday it would be a target for a club player, and that isn't anything to do with hip issues. I was really disappointed with that shot.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Murray's own take on his return to singles play:

“I think I did okay. I think there was a lot of things I would like to have done better in the match, but you also have to be somewhat realistic, as well, in terms of what you can expect in terms of how you actually play and hit the ball,” Murray said. “Richard, he uses all of the angles on the court. He's one of the best at doing that. So I was having to move quite a lot laterally, and I didn't move forward particularly well. Like when he drop-shotted, there was a few times I didn't even run to the ball, didn't react to it, and that's nothing to do with my hip. That's just me not running for a ball, which I did do that better at the end of the match. I reacted and got to a few and won points.”

Murray was broken immediately in both the first and second sets. But he showed his trademark grit on the court, battling hard throughout the one-hour, 37-minute encounter.

“The first game I felt quite nervous. [In] the first couple of games, it was actually pretty windy at the beginning. It was fine sort of midway through the first set, but right at the beginning it was pretty breezy, and I just felt a bit unsure of myself at the beginning and played a poor game to get broken,” Murray said. “I just haven't played a match for seven months. I hardly played before then, either. I haven't played many matches in the past 18 months, really.

“It's going to take time, and I haven't been practising lots of singles until recently. So I need time, and it's not going to come back in one week or one tournament. It's been a long process to get here, but to get back maybe to where I want to get is going to take a lot of time and a lot more work.”

 

blablavla

Legend
That 2nd serve will be a massive problem. Needs to sort that out.
I think his service is less attack-able than Albot's for example, yet Albot is in top 40.
Shall I say that Murray's potential on pretty much every aspect of the game is higher?
 

Pantera

Banned
I think his service is less attack-able than Albot's for example, yet Albot is in top 40.
Shall I say that Murray's potential on pretty much every aspect of the game is higher?
Game badly needs Murray back (and Delpo) so I hope I am wrong. Murray is all class.
 

stingstang

Professional
He could be risking his future health by trying singles again. Another injury could be really, really bad.

To compete with decent movers like Nishi or Agut is gonna be a serious problem before the even thinking about big 3. Don't like being negative but not sure it's a sensible move for him.
 
Murray is such a pessimist he doesn't believe it himself. And if he's pessimistic, then he's bound to fail anyway.

He said that he'll never be as quick as he was before. That, right there, is Murray shooting himself down. His goal should be to become that fast again, not to despondently talk about how his speed - the KEY to his success - won't be there.

Verdict: top 50 highly unlikely. Top 10 not possible.
 
He could be risking his future health by trying singles again. Another injury could be really, really bad.

To compete with decent movers like Nishi or Agut is gonna be a serious problem before the even thinking about big 3. Don't like being negative but not sure it's a sensible move for him.
He is insane for not retiring. It's not as if he's 25. He's done it all, he can retire, and he should. Hip surgery is no joke.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Inb4 @King No1e bumps this thread in 2020 July when Murray loses to Roger in Wimbledon Final after taking down Novak Djokovic in an epic 5 setter semifinal
No, Murray will beat Federer in the SF and lose to Djoker in an epic 5-setter.
I hope Murray can beat Federer at least one more time before they both retire. He used to have the H2H advantage for so long, but he hasn't won since 2013. I'd love to see him get the last laugh the way Roddick, Hewitt, and Haas did.
 
No, Murray will beat Federer in the SF and lose to Djoker in an epic 5-setter.
I hope Murray can beat Federer at least one more time before they both retire. He used to have the H2H advantage for so long, but he hasn't won since 2013. I'd love to see him get the last laugh the way Roddick, Hewitt, and Haas did.
Why so harsh on the old man??
 
No, Murray will beat Federer in the SF and lose to Djoker in an epic 5-setter.
I hope Murray can beat Federer at least one more time before they both retire. He used to have the H2H advantage for so long, but he hasn't won since 2013. I'd love to see him get the last laugh the way Roddick, Hewitt, and Haas did.
Beating RF in 250s and/or 500s is hardly proper revenge. They got regularly creamed by RF in slams, where it counts. Sure, Rod managed that one win in a M1000 (overall 3-21) but it was an early round, not the same as beating RF in a semis. Hewitt and Rod are still reeling from the damage RF inflicted on their careers. Weak era tryhards. Worthy of respect for trying, but way too overrated by RF fans trying to prove Weak Era wasn't weak.

But now I stray...
 
So he won't be playing USO? How can he expect to improve if he refuses to play matches?

More indication that he will fail in his comeback.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
I thought his FH is what let him down, tbh.
It was never impressive, but now it seemed almost impossible to hit a power winner on the FH side. Without that, he’ll struggle.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
Wimbledon needs to increase their singles champion prize money to 6 millions, so when Murray wins it next year, he'll become the real life six millions dollars man: better, faster and stronger...

Seriously, the guy will soon be visiting again surgery rooms...
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Who cares?

7 months ago, the AO virtually announced his retirement!

I wonder what they'll do if he shows up in singles there next year?
 
Wimbledon needs to increase their singles champion prize money to 6 millions, so when Murray wins it next year, he'll become the real life six millions dollars man: better, faster and stronger...

Seriously, the guy will soon be visiting again surgery rooms...
A lobotomy might help him. He's way too negative.
 
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