Murray Withdraws From The AO

BGod

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I think he's saving himself for Wimbledon and I said that all along. He knew after AO he couldn't go out strong at Wimbledon in 2019 but put in the effort post surgery to get back.

So I think he's realistic in that his best surface was always grass and he's going to have a statue at Wimbledon so he wants to go out strong there.

Think Boris Becker in 99 when he lost 4th round to Rafter. Andy probably wants a better end and honestly given a Nadal type draw he does have a puncher's chance if not a Jimmy Connors SF run.
 
MurrayGOAT hurt again :cry:
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octogon

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I hate to say it, but I really hope he just stops. I am more concerned with what his life is going to be after his career is officially over. He has a family that need him to be healthy.

Same. I said this at the time he decided to come back after surgery. He's achieved everything he needs to in the sport, and can be considered Britain's greatest tennis player of the open era. He's not in GOAT contention, so why is he risking his health like this? His day to day existence prior to his hip surgery sounded like a nightmare. It just seems mad to risk it happening again when there is nothing really at stake for him in his tenniis career.

I just think he knows nothing else, but retirment comes to every player eventually. He's a very rich man, but he needs something new to occupy his time. Maybe move in to coaching or TV commentating.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I hate to say it, but I really hope he just stops. I am more concerned with what his life is going to be after his career is officially over. He has a family that need him to be healthy.

Same. I said this at the time he decided to come back after surgery. He's achieved everything he needs to in the sport, and can be considered Britain's greatest tennis player of the open era. He's not in GOAT contention, so why is he risking his health like this? His day to day existence prior to his hip surgery sounded like a nightmare. It just seems mad to risk it happening again when there is nothing really at stake for him in his tenniis career.

I just think he knows nothing else, but retirment comes to every player eventually. He's a very rich man, but he needs something new to occupy his time. Maybe move in to coaching or TV commentating.

It's all very well saying he's had a good career and should just call it quits but he feels he still has unfinished business (eg. that missing AO title) and its maddenly frustrating for him and his fans that he's being prevented from playing up to his maximum potential. It's especially frustrating when he and we see the likes of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic (2 older, 1 the same age) all still competing at the highest level and he is not being able to do so.

It's an absolute beast what has happened to him since the highs of 2016 and we Murray fans are all still in shock about it. I know we may be forced to bow down to the inevitable but we continue to cling to the desperate hope that this is another temporary setback. We will call it quits only when he decides to call it quits and not before.
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
I hate to say it, but I really hope he just stops. I am more concerned with what his life is going to be after his career is officially over. He has a family that need him to be healthy.
I find your lack of faith in the Muzziah disturbing...
 

Zara

G.O.A.T.
Andy has no point playing AO anyway. He won’t win it as the field is quite tough on hard courts and he is also not ready or quite there yet. I do see him playing Queens and Wimbledon and playing some small tournaments in between.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
At least now we don't need to hear all the snarky comments about how awkward the AO was going to be after they gave him a goodbye tribute last year.

I always maintained they did the right thing at the time, and they might end up being right. Chances just increased x100 that he'll never play in Melbourne again.
 

canta_Brian

Hall of Fame
It’s not like Muzz is an accountant. His “job” is a leisure activity for the rest of us. What’s he going to do, quit tennis and spend his well earned retirement in a call centre for laughs?
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
Are people really surprised ?

He played tens of hard court matches that lasted 2-3 hours each.

The warnings voiced by many hip surgeons are proving themselves prophetical even sooner than expected.
 
The writing was on the wall since his hip surgery. Seeing how the big three are massively set back in their competitive level by much smaller problems should have told every reasonable fan that that expectation to see Murray contend for Majors again is a pipe dream. It is his business when and how to retire, but I think that it is imminent and the sooner the better. I maintain that one last good performance (maybe a competitive match(es)) at Wimbledon is what he should aim at. It is a shame really, but not everyone is dealt the same hand.

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ForehandCross

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I am a fan and I too think he should retire.

We will always have 2016 fall. No need to further break himself physically.


He has a beautiful wife and beautiful kids. He deserves to enjoy his life with them.


Not to mention he is filthy rich, can live in castle if he wants to and can even have female stalkers who watch him sleep while I can't even get a girlfriend.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I am a fan and I too think he should retire.

We will always have 2016 fall. No need to further break himself physically.


He has a beautiful wife and beautiful kids. He deserves to enjoy his life with them.


Not to mention he is filthy rich, can live in castle if he wants to and can even have female stalkers who watch him sleep while I can't even get a girlfriend.
So much appreciation for the last paragraph!
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
That's too bad. I really hope Andy gets healthy to compete again on the top level, but it looks unrealistic :(

I can't understand why posters wishes for him to retire. Great player, who makes everything so much more interesting.

Moar tough times for the wonderful flock in the Muzziah Manor.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
That's too bad. I really hope Andy gets healthy to compete again on the top level, but it looks unrealistic :(

I can't understand why posters wishes for him to retire. Great player, who makes everything so much more interesting.

Moar tough times for the wonderful flock in the Muzziah Manor.

People want him to retire so he can enjoy a pain-free life with his wife and kids. Most want him to retire because they like the guy and don't want to see him suffer needlessly.

Hip problems are brutal. That's how a lot of old people start to lose their physical capabilities. Murray said he could barely play with his kids or walk his dog before the surgery. A lot of people feel it's not worth the long-term health complications for him to come back.
 
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junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
People want him to retire so he can enjoy a pain-free life with his wife and kids. Most want him to retire because they like the guy and don't want to see him suffer needlessly.

You don't think he is able to make his own priorities and decisions?
All men with wife and kids go to work. Even Andy Murray.
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
You don't think he is able to make his own priorities and decisions?
All men with wife and kids go to work. Even Andy Murray.

Of course he can make his own decisions. But he's a public figure, so unfortunately people can freely speculate and opinionate whether they think his decisions are smart or make any sense. That's the way things work.

Some athletes go on in their sport after their body basically tells them it's over, and they often pay a steep price for the rest of their lives. It's most common with boxers and fighters, but it can happen to a tennis player as well.
 
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That's too bad. I really hope Andy gets healthy to compete again on the top level, but it looks unrealistic :(

I can't understand why posters wishes for him to retire. Great player, who makes everything so much more interesting.

Moar tough times for the wonderful flock in the Muzziah Manor.

Well, for what is worth, most people (including me) don't wish him to retire. They want him to not suffer while being a shadow of his former self. For example I wouldn't want Federer to slug it out, if he isn't able to play at a very high level either, even though his game is much more pleasing to the eye (to me at least) than Andy's.

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In my perfect world, Andy receives a WC into Wimbledon in 2021 (Yes, 2021 Not 2020) and beats Novak in the Final to win the Title.

... And No, I am not a Brit!
 
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Zardoz7/12

Hall of Fame
He's scheduled to play in Montpelier in February so I'm guessing this isn't career threatening and he'll try to get back playing when fully fit.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
It's all very well saying he's had a good career and should just call it quits but he feels he still has unfinished business (eg. that missing AO title) and its maddenly frustrating for him and his fans that he's being prevented from playing up to his maximum potential. It's especially frustrating when he and we see the likes of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic (2 older, 1 the same age) all still competing at the highest level and he is not being able to do so.

It's an absolute beast what has happened to him since the highs of 2016 and we Murray fans are all still in shock about it. I know we may be forced to bow down to the inevitable but we continue to cling to the desperate hope that this is another temporary setback. We will call it quits only when he decides to call it quits and not before.

No one is denying that, he was cut down in the middle of his peak run when he was world number one. I like Murray a lot also, you know this, I am a fan of his and always will be, but being a personal trainer and a competitive athlete myself who has worked with athletes from all kinds of backgrounds, I have had to help many who pushed their body too hard and as a result are in some sort of constant pain. I see what they all go through with my own eyes.

You see when the lights go off, and everyone has done chanting your name, you are the one left to deal with those injuries and pain that could plague you the rest of your life and damage the quality of your life in general. I don't want Murray to go through that, he is still very young, with a young beautiful family that don't need to see him in constant pain. I understand he is a competitive athlete and feels like he has unfinished business, but he is a husband and father also.

You, I, or anyone else doesn't know how much pain he is actually enduring, I sincerely hope it is minor, but if he is being stubborn and the issue is worse than he is letting on because he feels he has unfinished business, then he should IMO think about the life ahead and the consequences that not only he, but his family will need to live with.
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Just to be super clear. This is not the hip right?

I don't think Murray's mind is on unfinished business with the AO at all right now. Perhaps he's even taking it cautiously. I think he wants a few more years on Tour and appreciate it to it's fullest rather than being dead set on winning Slams again.
 

StrongRule

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I think he's saving himself for Wimbledon and I said that all along. He knew after AO he couldn't go out strong at Wimbledon in 2019 but put in the effort post surgery to get back.

So I think he's realistic in that his best surface was always grass and he's going to have a statue at Wimbledon so he wants to go out strong there.

Think Boris Becker in 99 when he lost 4th round to Rafter. Andy probably wants a better end and honestly given a Nadal type draw he does have a puncher's chance if not a Jimmy Connors SF run.
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It was going to be super tough for him anyway possibly having to play qualies to get in. It's probably for the best (assuming this isn't a persistent injury) He can play a couple tournaments later and get his ranking back up so that it's not so hard on him. Wish him the best.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Me, as a fan wants to see him playing again. The guy may not have the best game in everyones eyes, but he can sure contribute to great matches.

It also has to be admitted, that had he not had these issues after his 2016 season, its very reasonable to think he could've doubled his slam count the next few years, with Djokovic's slump. It cant be forgotten that in 2016 he reached the AO final. He had his best ever clay season, winning a Masters, reaching a Masters final, and the FO final.
He then goes on to win at Queens, and Wimbledon on grass, along with Olympic singles gold on HC in Brazil.
Then 5 straight tournament wins, including 2 more Masters, and the WTF title.
The guy was competitive on every surface, and was a favourite going into every tournament.
Lets not forget this. Its not just some random player who is being forced out of the game. He has been forced to rethink everything while he was on top of the world.
That's the difference.

I also don't feel that Murray is doing this because of 'unfinished business' or to prove anything. The guy simply loves competitive tennis, and its all hes knows since he was a kid.
There are many sports people who do these things, and who are we to say they should stop?
 

octogon

Hall of Fame
There are many sports people who do these things, and who are we to say they should stop?

I wish Muhammad Ali had retired earlier. He kept boxing longer than he should have, and spent the rest of his life with Parkinson's disease as a result.

To me, there's absolutely nothing wrong with telling or suggesting to athletes to maybe stop if the signs are there that they are in danger of dramatically affecting their quality of life. It's a sign that people care, and don't just see athletes as performing monkeys for our enjoyment.
 
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I think he's saving himself for Wimbledon and I said that all along. He knew after AO he couldn't go out strong at Wimbledon in 2019 but put in the effort post surgery to get back.

So I think he's realistic in that his best surface was always grass and he's going to have a statue at Wimbledon so he wants to go out strong there.

Think Boris Becker in 99 when he lost 4th round to Rafter. Andy probably wants a better end and honestly given a Nadal type draw he does have a puncher's chance if not a Jimmy Connors SF run.
A Nadal type draw? :)
Has Rafa ever had an easy draw?
This year Rafa had to play Federer in the SF, and last year Djokovic SF and marathon Del Potro QF.
And the best level of tennis Kyrgios ever played was vs. Rafa at 2014 Wimbledon, oh and Rafa met Kyrgios again this year (and Rafa had to win 2 tie-breakers).
 

BretH

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Doing the comeback we never heard anything about issues with the hip. He says he's struggling with a groin injury now that's slow to heal.

So either he and his entire team are lying and his hip is the problem or he has...a groin injury that is slow to heal.

I did not get any impression Andy would cover it up if the hip was really the issue, but I guess all the backseat team physicians and psychologists here know better.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
Me, as a fan wants to see him playing again. The guy may not have the best game in everyones eyes, but he can sure contribute to great matches.

It also has to be admitted, that had he not had these issues after his 2016 season, its very reasonable to think he could've doubled his slam count the next few years, with Djokovic's slump. It cant be forgotten that in 2016 he reached the AO final. He had his best ever clay season, winning a Masters, reaching a Masters final, and the FO final.
He then goes on to win at Queens, and Wimbledon on grass, along with Olympic singles gold on HC in Brazil.
Then 5 straight tournament wins, including 2 more Masters, and the WTF title.
The guy was competitive on every surface, and was a favourite going into every tournament.
Lets not forget this. Its not just some random player who is being forced out of the game. He has been forced to rethink everything while he was on top of the world.
That's the difference.

I also don't feel that Murray is doing this because of 'unfinished business' or to prove anything. The guy simply loves competitive tennis, and its all hes knows since he was a kid.
There are many sports people who do these things, and who are we to say they should stop?
And he played two terrible finals in AO and RG. Yes, he can reach finals, but he is a terrible player in big matches. In 2016 he only managed to win one slam, and that is a slam where his toughest opponent was Raonic. IMO he was never going to win any slams in 2017-2019. The only one in which he could have theoretical chances is AO 2018, but Federer would still be the big favorite against him.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
It's all very well saying he's had a good career and should just call it quits but he feels he still has unfinished business (eg. that missing AO title) and its maddenly frustrating for him and his fans that he's being prevented from playing up to his maximum potential. It's especially frustrating when he and we see the likes of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic (2 older, 1 the same age) all still competing at the highest level and he is not being able to do so.

It's an absolute beast what has happened to him since the highs of 2016 and we Murray fans are all still in shock about it. I know we may be forced to bow down to the inevitable but we continue to cling to the desperate hope that this is another temporary setback. We will call it quits only when he decides to call it quits and not before.
I can appreciate that.
While this may be a hackneyed expression by now, long ago I recall an athlete saying that they suffer two deaths, the first one being when they retire. Hopefully, Andy (a great HOF champion, no matter how highly people judge his career) can move on, on something approaching his terms.
 
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