Murray's fitness is overrated

[4:57 Miler]

Read on here quite frequently that Murray is the fittest man on tour but I think people are mistaking being fast with being fit - I read on his blog that he did a mile time trial in 5:24 which is good but really not all that impressive - when you think that I bet a number of tennis players could go well under 5 minutes. By the same token he also ran a 24 dead 200 metre time trial which I wouldn't be able to get near - the guy needs to work on his fitness more imo - the guy's a 3 set master - needs to work on endurance to be make his body more adaptable to 5 sets. Just my two cents anyway - I bet Federer, Hewitt and Nadal could all run a sub 4:40 mile just off the training they complete for their tennis.

 

[Jay_The_Nomad]

The wimbledon match against Nadal a couple of seasons back really exposed Murray's lack of fitness. So according to reports, he went off to work on his conditioning. He came back stronger and fitter and started playing really well.

But whether his fitness matches up to the likes of Nadal in a 5 setter, we will have to wait till next season to find out.

 

[nfor304]

I've been following his blog myself for the past few months and have read quite a few of the entries. The stuff he is doing is difficult, but really for a professional player it all seems like stuff that would be par for the course for guys in the top 100 rather than anything that would be setting him apart from the field. Case in point- He trains with Ross Hutchins, who looks every bit as fit as Murray is and beats Murray over the 100m and 200m sprint during a training block.

Its kind of one of the things that annoys me most about Murray.

He seems to be always talking about how hard he's working, or how hard he is going to work after his latest loss, and how fit he is and all the off court stuff he's doing, posting info in his blog, posting video's on youtube etc. All of this seems to me like he believes he is doing really special incredibly difficult training that nobody else does.

All the other guys do the same kind of training he does, some work even harder, but they just dont post video's of themselves doing it all over youtube and contribute to overhyping themselves.

I have no sympathy when he loses early in a slam and everyone says its not his fault he is overhyped, and its the British media etc. It is at least partially his fault.

 

[roddickfan1000]

his fitness is misunderstood - not overrated

 

[charliefedererer]

His level of fitness is just the entry fee to play in the best 3 out of 5 set format of the slams and not look like Monfils after an hour with Nadal.
There are a lot of men that can take him out if he does't have the powers of concentration to change tactics or up his game when a Cilic, Verdasco, or Del Potro starts clicking. Soderling had set point to even up the match against Federer last night at 2 all, after looking clueless for the first hour of the match. Andy has to develop the ability to up his game at the crucial moment when it starts to slip away. Unfortunately, the odds are against him, but it's not impossible.

 

[Feña14]

He is not a natural at it by any means. When he first came on tour he could barely last 2 sets.

He's worked very hard on it and is now probably in the top third of fittest players out there, which is a great achievement.

 

[Bruguera]

Every aspect about Murray's game is overrated

 

[zagor]

His natural stamina isn't that great so he has to work harder than some of the other guys.His playing style is also pretty taxing as it involves covering so much court.

Every aspect about Murray's game is overrated

It's funny seeing you change you tune about him so dramatically.Before you were saying Murray is much better than Hewitt,Safin,Roddick etc. and how he's gonna dominate and similar.

 

[coyfish]

Read on here quite frequently that Murray is the fittest man on tour but I think people are mistaking being fast with being fit - I read on his blog that he did a mile time trial in 5:24 which is good but really not all that impressive - when you think that I bet a number of tennis players could go well under 5 minutes. By the same token he also ran a 24 dead 200 metre time trial which I wouldn't be able to get near - the guy needs to work on his fitness more imo - the guy's a 3 set master - needs to work on endurance to be make his body more adaptable to 5 sets. Just my two cents anyway - I bet Federer, Hewitt and Nadal could all run a sub 4:40 mile just off the training they complete for their tennis.

Hmmm I don't agree with you. Tennis is a very particular sport. Distance running is not a good way to evaluate whether a player is "fit." I am an olympic distance triathlete. I can run a mile in under 4:30 and I can run 6 miles at 7 min pace. Oddly though I get tired / winded after a long tennis point. Tennis involves invervals, stops and starts, SHORT sprints, etc.

Obviously if you run a 10 minute mile your just not in shape but you don't need to train distance running to become a "fitter" tenis player. As for the sprints in tennis its pretty much impossible to reach a full sprint during a match. It doesn't matter what his top speed is.

As for many sports . . . the best way to train for tennis is to play tennis. Granted you can't do that all the time but you get my point I hope.

Im no fan of Murray but he is fit. Ive never seen the guy gassed and he makes some unbelievable "gets" and remains consistant until the end. He is also a great "mover" which is different from being fit. Like federer he gets in position / anticipates well.

Im not sure what spurred this thread. His loss was just a fluke for him. He had a bad day. Cilic played solid but nothing spectacular. Murray just went crazy with his UE's. Nothing to do with his fiteness.

 

[NamRanger]

Hmmm I don't agree with you. Tennis is a very particular sport. Distance running is not a good way to evaluate whether a player is "fit." I am an olympic distance triathlete. I can run a mile in under 4:30 and I can run 6 miles at 7 min pace. Oddly though I get tired / winded after a long tennis point. Tennis involves invervals, stops and starts, SHORT sprints, etc.

Obviously if you run a 10 minute mile your just not in shape but you don't need to train distance running to become a "fitter" tenis player. As for the sprints in tennis its pretty much impossible to reach a full sprint during a match. It doesn't matter what his top speed is.

As for many sports . . . the best way to train for tennis is to play tennis. Granted you can't do that all the time but you get my point I hope.

Im no fan of Murray but he is fit. Ive never seen the guy gassed and he makes some unbelievable "gets" and remains consistant until the end. He is also a great "mover" which is different from being fit. Like federer he gets in position / anticipates well.

Im not sure what spurred this thread. His loss was just a fluke for him. He had a bad day. Cilic played solid but nothing spectacular. Murray just went crazy with his UE's. Nothing to do with his fiteness.

His loss was not a fluke. His loss has alot to do with him being incapable of playing great offensive tennis to take over the match when he needs to. This has happened multiple times this year.

 

[beernutz]

Read on here quite frequently that Murray is the fittest man on tour but I think people are mistaking being fast with being fit - I read on his blog that he did a mile time trial in 5:24 which is good but really not all that impressive - when you think that I bet a number of tennis players could go well under 5 minutes. By the same token he also ran a 24 dead 200 metre time trial which I wouldn't be able to get near - the guy needs to work on his fitness more imo - the guy's a 3 set master - needs to work on endurance to be make his body more adaptable to 5 sets. Just my two cents anyway - I bet Federer, Hewitt and Nadal could all run a sub 4:40 mile just off the training they complete for their tennis.

Ahem [bull shi t] ahem.

 

[coyfish]

His loss was not a fluke. His loss has alot to do with him being incapable of playing great offensive tennis to take over the match when he needs to. This has happened multiple times this year.

I agree but not in this match. When he plays big hitting guys who are playing well he has trouble. Cilic played "well." Solid play but nothing murray hadn't seen or didn't expect. Its not like he was blasting winners from all over the court like monfils against nadal in the 1st set. He just rallied with Murray and forced a ton of UE's off balls murray usually has no trouble with.

 

[mzzmuaa]

The mile run isn't a great measure for tennis fitness demands.
Sure tennis has a large aerobic component, but the glycolytic and creatine phosphate systems also have a huge role, especially when sprinting for the ball or upping the pace on groundstrokes/serves.
I'd argue that the bulk of tennis's sports-specific energy demands come from these two others systems.

 

[OddJack]

Murray is responsible for all the hype,
remember those pictures from him doing olympic style field and track training? Weight lifitng?

All the buzz that " I can easily beat Roger"...

Hopefully Delpo will take over his spot soon ...

 

[Shaolin]

Murray is physically fit but he has heart problems.