Murray's ranking and Novak easy draws

Does playing Murray and Nadal in the semis/quarters affect a players chances in the finals?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Total voters
    3

PeterHo

Hall of Fame
Here's some statistics during 2011~2015 at slams.

No. of times players who went on to win after beating
Nadal 0
Murray 3
Novak 4
Fed 4

No. Of times lost at SF or QF
Murray 12
Nadal 3
Nole 5
Fed 11

So,
Nadal, no player won the title after beating Nadal in the second wk, this happened 0 times out of 3, ie. 0%.

Murray, 25%.

Fed, 36%

Novak, 80%.

This shows:

1. If you beat Novak, then you are likely to win the title.

2. If you beat Nadal, chances are you will lose the final.

3. If you beat Murray, then you are still very unlikely to win the title (25%). A bit more likelier if you beat federer (36%).

If I were Novak, a draw with Nadal or Murray on the other side is a good draw.

Murray at no.2 is great for Novak.

Fun fact: in 2015 Nole won 3 slams without facing Murray or Nadal before the final. He lost miserably after beating both at RG. Whoever beat Murray or Nadal in 2015 before the finals didn't win the title.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Not sure about this.

4 times a player won the slam after beating Novak? I can only think of Wimbledon 2012, RG 2013 and AO 2014
 
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jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't get this post... How can Nadal be at zero if he lost those Slam finals to Djoker in 2011?

Djoker also lost a bunch of finals in this period. Shouldn't "his" count be a lot higher?
 

jackmd57

New User
I don't get this post... How can Nadal be at zero if he lost those Slam finals to Djoker in 2011?

Djoker also lost a bunch of finals in this period. Shouldn't "his" count be a lot higher?
I think OP means beating Nadal "in semi or quarter" so beating him in final doesnt count.
 
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