Bhagi Katbamna
Legend
What a dumb thing to say. Why not just say he wanted to work with Lendl?
Must Be Nice: 'I have chosen Ivan Lendl over Boris Becker'
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Bender
G.O.A.T.
I'd crown him goat over fedal
ForumMember
Hall of Fame
There was absolutely no need to bring this in public domain..
Just when I start warming up to him as a player, he does something so stupid to push me back further than what I have moved forward.
Just when I start warming up to him as a player, he does something so stupid to push me back further than what I have moved forward.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Its his way.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Meles
Bionic Poster
Meles
Bionic Poster
Its just the whole situation of Zverev picking from among the two best coaches in the game. According to TTW he does not deserve their attention.I don't know if I'm the one who is wrong and is missing something or if this forum is filled with a bunch of exaggerated people. I can't find anything wrong with what he said. Absolutely nothing
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
Some people don't feel the need to brag about anything and everything, so no.
As to getting to choose between Lendl and Becker, if this part is true, that's no choice at all, really. Lendl all the way. The only other choice that may have been better for Zverev (emphasis on may) would have been Norman, and Lendl will probably scare him more (just ask Murray). If Ivan can't get him to start thinking and acting like a top player, no-one can, probably.
This. I wouldn't be surprised to see Zverev as a slam winner as early as 2019, now. And #1 in 2020. If their partnership lasts that long, of course...
Raining hopes
Hall of Fame
Just when I had started to support him he proves that his critics are actually right about arrogance.
This isn't even "cool" kind of arrogance,this is just low. Why did he even think of bringing this into public domain ?
This isn't even "cool" kind of arrogance,this is just low. Why did he even think of bringing this into public domain ?
ak24alive
Legend
He did all this to push you back lol.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
He'd better not get injured or Lendl will dump him faster than he can say his name.
ak24alive
Legend
Apart from this below I can't find anything bad myself.I don't know if I'm the one who is wrong and is missing something or if this forum is filled with a bunch of exaggerated people. I can't find anything wrong with what he said. Absolutely nothing
"And second, I just thought Ivan's life right now is a little bit easier."
Or maybe he meant to say that Boris is busy with German tennis and that's why Ivan's life is easier. If that's the case then I don't see any problem with what he said. But if he is referring to Boris' personal problems then this statement was uncalled for. I will give him the benefit of doubt.
Primavera
Rookie
And a whining nobody on grass.
Watching Lendl I thought that he was generally a good guy, but soporifically boring and absolutely unimaginative. Then certain pros said some things about him (one of them was a poster here some 10 years ago), and I've found out that Lendl was a viscious, mean, rude, intimidating scoundrel, unsportsmanlike to his utmost.
I don't think I would have entrusted him with my house pets to say nothing of my kids. But maybe in professional sports being a good person is obsolete. Looking at the likes of Tomic and Kyrgios, I'd say that nobody ever tried to civilize them to the level of humans.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
You can't leave us hanging, what did they say?
Stretchy Man
Professional
Probably a good decision. Boris is going to be very busy working as a diplomat for the Central African Republic.
Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
“All” the talent ???!! That’s a bit rich.
Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
Baseliners in Lendl’s era could all volley.
Primavera
Rookie
Zverev is not a native English speaker. He is not a native German speaker. And his Russian is reduced to foul language only. Probably, he should learn Chinese for promotional purposes.
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Primavera
Rookie
so one wonders if a player like Tsitsipas if they keep shoveling in the loot might come knocking.
Tsitsipas's father is a professional tennis coach unlike so many other tennis parents who gave it a try using their own kids to go through the learning curve. And his mother was a former tennis pro Julia Salnikova. Most probably they can educate their babyboy between themselves. If somebody else is hired, he will be no more than a consultunt.
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Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
the one who made the wrong choice has to be ivan...
Primavera
Rookie
I don't know if I'm the one who is wrong and is missing something or if this forum is filled with a bunch of exaggerated people. I can't find anything wrong with what he said. Absolutely nothing
Can you find anything wrong with using "exaggerated" instead of "exaggerating"?
Primavera
Rookie
You can start warming up to Tsitsipas who is no worse then whining Sasha in terms of tennis, and keeps his trap shut for the time being. Don't know what will come out of it when opened though
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heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
Tsitsipas should coach him
Primavera
Rookie
You can read Brad Gilbert's and McEnroe's books yourself.
A former local poster who said that he used to be within the best 34 in ATP ranking (I suspect that he was No.34)) told us a story how Lendl tried to intimidate his best "friend " Connors before the match walking around him and waving his racket in the dangerous vicinity of Connors's body. Connors turned to his locker pretending that he didn't care. Then Lendl crashed his racket nearly under Connors's feet. Adres Gomes screamed: "Ivan, stop it, or I'll report you". Lendl left the premises grumbling.
Becker said that he couldn't stand Lendl's guts because he always pulled hair from his nose before serving or returning which was disgusting. It looks as if Mr.Lendl had a lot of nice little gimmicks.
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helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
But Lendl had bad volleys early in his career when he was losing Slam semis and finals. From US Open 1985 on, Lendl was 7-6 in Slam finals. A winning record is impressive when you make almost every final. (Because if you always make the final, you sometimes make it despite being on bad or mediocre form and so should be expected to lose to a rival who is only in the final if he's playing well. That's one reason Djokovic has often lost Slam finals, too).
tennis4me
Hall of Fame
I tried to have an open mind while reading his statement, but it does seem like there's an air of arrogance there. The way he started by saying "obviously..." and "Look, ...". It's just his style, I guess.
I know who should coach him, the Dalai Lama, to teach him a little lesson of humility.
I know who should coach him, the Dalai Lama, to teach him a little lesson of humility.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
Boris looks really bad these days. Health and financial problems. Did you see the German doc on him that somebody posted here?
DRII
G.O.A.T.
only by haters!
the AZ hate is bordering on ridiculous and for people (especially Federer fans) to cry about his arrogance is also ridiculous and often times hypocritical!
Ann
Hall of Fame
I'm neutral in regards to the top 3. I dislike Zverev because he can't keep his mouth shut. I expect arrogance from players in the top 10, you can't make it to the top 10 without enormous amounts of self-adoration but Zverev's press conferences are obnoxious in regards to his comments about other players. He needs to grow up and learn to self-edit. That isn't HATE, that's an observation based on the statements that came out of the child's mouth.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
I think the issue with reasonable people (like yourself) not liking AZ and his statements perhaps comes from assuming he is a child and immature. if you look at his statements as coming from a learned (in his field) individual, then perhaps it would be easier to see that he's just speaking his truth in a somewhat blunt yet still mostly polite way.
he seems very aware to me especially for his age.
now the other hate, especially coming from the normal internet tough guys on this forum, is because they don't like is 'divaish' attitude and that's he's good looking and rich. just wait until he gets a super model for a GF, then those types will go crazy on this board! they did the same with Berdych.
Ann
Hall of Fame
I don't care about his home life or his potential girlfriends and I will stop rooting against him when I see an inkling of that maturity. Sometimes players grow as humans when in the spotlight and sometimes they don't. Jury is still out on Zverev...
black iris
New User
he must have been dying to let people know. Anyways i wish him luck in the US Open
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Alba Barragan
Professional
Well, it's not like he's bragging that he's so talented both Ivan and Boris are interested in him or that he has so much money he can afford to think of one or the other as if money wasn't involved. Everyone knows, and Alex himself has said repeatedly, that if he thought of them to be part of his team it's because he and his family have known them for years. Becker has been around since Mischa was starting his career, and Ivan since Zverev Sr. was in juniors. They're almost part of the family. It's not Alex's fault he pretty much grew up on tour, with all those great players around, to talk about them as humans and not demigods.
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Alba Barragan
Professional
Boris's problems are many and well known. They were big news in tennis not long ago, so they can't really be put aside. I think the way Zverev acknowledge them was the one with the most tact and discretion possible for him- he recognized them as a motive in his decision, but he didn't go into uncomfortable details, and at the same time, they helped him make clear that in any other situation, Boris would've been chosen. Very diplomatic, in my opinion.
Alba Barragan
Professional
Mmmm I'm not sure?
If I made a mistake I apologize, English isn't my first language and I'm always learning. Maybe you can help me a little with the difference in those words
Meles
Bionic Poster
Let's hope not
; same could have been said of Zverev.
Meles
Bionic Poster
I think its great. ATZ (all things Zverev) brigade going deep at US Open and this place will explode.
Boom-Boom
Legend
exactly
George Turner
Hall of Fame
Zverev is so talented the worlds most successful coaches are queuing up for him!
Seriously not sure what he's done wrong here, he said he had a choice of coaches and didn't say anything disrespectful about Boris. Not really much to read into it.
Zverev could spend a million pounds on treatment for a cancer patient, these forums would probably claim he's just trying to get attention.
Seriously not sure what he's done wrong here, he said he had a choice of coaches and didn't say anything disrespectful about Boris. Not really much to read into it.
Zverev could spend a million pounds on treatment for a cancer patient, these forums would probably claim he's just trying to get attention.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Absolutely.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
Later in his career. Serial underachiever early. Oh, and if he was that talented, how would you explain his many major finals losses before he finally won (or gifted - JMac) one?
When he first joined the tour, his serve was just a ‘get point started’ and he was a groundie machine. And hands of stone at the net.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
He just won Wimbledon with Vajda. Why in the world dump him for Boris?
pc1
G.O.A.T.
Major finals losses is often a mental thing. Look who he lost to, Borg, Connors, Wilander. He probably should have won two of them on the surface but it’s not that easy.
The 1983 US Open final would be tough for anyone to win. It was probably over 110 degrees courtside with the crowd screaming against him. He was clearly rattled. And you have Connors against you who smelled blood!
In the 1980s Lendl’s serve imo was one of the best in tennis. Talent is not just there, it has to be often nurtured. Remember to hit with the topspin and pace he hit with demanded great talent.
That's a poor excuse. Isn't the motivation to work hard part of talent? Also, how do you know it's talent, maybe Becker just had better coaches when he was a kid.
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