"I hope so" is sorta the ******* option, isn't it?
"I hope so" is sorta the ******* option, isn't it?
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meg0529
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A difficult draw does not mean that you don't win. Dasco had Rafa hang around on court for what 5 hours? Had it been a quick 3 set affair, then okay, Rafa had it easy. But it wasn't. You are telling me, oh Novak wasn't a danger because he had a tough Semi battle with Fed? Bahah, what about the brutal battle Rafa had with Dasco b4 he played fed at the AO? Not to mention, Novak got an additional day thanks to the rain delay. Also, aside from Novak's miraculous win over Fed in the last USO, he's been no trouble for him, same goes for Murray, so saying fed had to go through them, does not mean he had a difficult draw. Point is Fed does not have much of a problem with these guys in HC slams, but Nadal does.
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meg0529
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LOL. love the pic.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Here's something weird about the draws, and how Nadal and Murray always end up on the same side. It is uncanny that the Nadal/Andy.M and Fed/Djokovic combos stays intact, no matter which order they come in the rankings, i.e whether Rafa is No 1 or Roger is No 1, or whether Murray has dropped to 5, or Murray is 2 and Nole is 4, it ALWAYS happens.
In fact since AO 2008, Nadal and Murray have been in the same half of the draw - 11 times out of 12 in the slams!! Consider from Wimb 2008 - since Murray became a legitimate threat -
Wimb 2008: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF and SAME QUARTER. Meet in the QF; Nadal wins.
UsOpen 2008: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Meet in the SF; Murray wins.
AO 2009: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF. Scheduled to meet in the SF, but Murray loses to Verdasco earlier.
F.O 2009:Murray lands in Nadal's half again . But both loose early.
Wimb 2009: Murray, Nadal in SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in SF. Nadal withdraws.
UsOpen 2009: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Murray loses to Cilic earlier.
AO 2010: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF and the SAME QUARTER. They meet in the QF. Murray beats Nadal.
F.O 2010: In F.O Murray lands in Fed's half. But both loose before SF.
Wimb 2010: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Nadal beats Murray in the Semi- Final.
UsOpen 2010:Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Murray loses to Wawrinka before.
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So by counting, Murray has been in Nadal's HALF (or quarter, if he's ranked lower) 11 times out of the last 12 slams, and 11 times out of 11 in NON-CLAY slams!! The ONLY time when Murray is in Fed's half is in the F.O 2010 (where admittedly Murray would not be much of a threat to Nadal).
Of course draws being rigged is NONSENSE, but it's definitely a COINCIDENCE to see how much propensity Murray and Nadal have for each other in the slams..
Won't be surprised if Andy M and Nadal are in the same quarter in AO 2011
In fact since AO 2008, Nadal and Murray have been in the same half of the draw - 11 times out of 12 in the slams!! Consider from Wimb 2008 - since Murray became a legitimate threat -
Wimb 2008: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF and SAME QUARTER. Meet in the QF; Nadal wins.
UsOpen 2008: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Meet in the SF; Murray wins.
AO 2009: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF. Scheduled to meet in the SF, but Murray loses to Verdasco earlier.
F.O 2009:Murray lands in Nadal's half again . But both loose early.
Wimb 2009: Murray, Nadal in SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in SF. Nadal withdraws.
UsOpen 2009: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Murray loses to Cilic earlier.
AO 2010: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF and the SAME QUARTER. They meet in the QF. Murray beats Nadal.
F.O 2010: In F.O Murray lands in Fed's half. But both loose before SF.
Wimb 2010: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Nadal beats Murray in the Semi- Final.
UsOpen 2010:Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Murray loses to Wawrinka before.
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So by counting, Murray has been in Nadal's HALF (or quarter, if he's ranked lower) 11 times out of the last 12 slams, and 11 times out of 11 in NON-CLAY slams!! The ONLY time when Murray is in Fed's half is in the F.O 2010 (where admittedly Murray would not be much of a threat to Nadal).
Of course draws being rigged is NONSENSE, but it's definitely a COINCIDENCE to see how much propensity Murray and Nadal have for each other in the slams..
Won't be surprised if Andy M and Nadal are in the same quarter in AO 2011
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Clay lover
Legend
Of course Murray's always onn Nad's side, he's such a Nadltard :/
Murrayfan31
Hall of Fame
Murray wants Nadal. His game suits up perfectly for Murray's backhand. Federer is a way tougher matchup for Murray and most of tennis players.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Here's something weird about the draws, and how Nadal and Murray always end up on the same side. It is uncanny that the Nadal/Andy.M and Fed/Djokovic combos stays intact, no matter which order they come in the rankings, i.e whether Rafa is No 1 or Roger is No 1, or whether Murray has dropped to 5, or Murray is 2 and Nole is 4, it ALWAYS happens.
In fact since AO 2008, Nadal and Murray have been in the same half of the draw - 11 times out of 12 in the slams!! Consider from Wimb 2008 - since Murray became a legitimate threat -
Wimb 2008: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF and SAME QUARTER. Meet in the QF; Nadal wins.
UsOpen 2008: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Meet in the SF; Murray wins.
AO 2009: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF. Scheduled to meet in the SF, but Murray loses to Verdasco earlier.
F.O 2009:Murray lands in Nadal's half again . But both loose early.
Wimb 2009: Murray, Nadal in SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in SF. Nadal withdraws.
UsOpen 2009: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Murray loses to Cilic earlier.
AO 2010: Murray, Nadal in the SAME HALF and the SAME QUARTER. They meet in the QF. Murray beats Nadal.
F.O 2010: In F.O Murray lands in Fed's half. But both loose before SF.
Wimb 2010: Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Nadal beats Murray in the Semi- Final.
UsOpen 2010:Nadal, Murray in the SAME HALF, scheduled to meet in the SF. Murray loses to Wawrinka before.
_________
So by counting, Murray has been in Nadal's HALF (or quarter, if he's ranked lower) 11 times out of the last 12 slams, and 11 times out of 11 in NON-CLAY slams!! The ONLY time when Murray is in Fed's half is in the F.O 2010 (where admittedly Murray would not be much of a threat to Nadal).
Of course draws being rigged is NONSENSE, but it's definitely a COINCIDENCE to see how much propensity Murray and Nadal have for each other in the slams..
Won't be surprised if Andy M and Nadal are in the same quarter in AO 2011
That's just insane! Coincidence? Hmmmm.....
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Deleted member 54563
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Really strange stuff here. How do they know Murray is on the same side as Rafa and Djokovic? It's not even friday yet in Australia.
That is as misleading as the ingenious title of this thread.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
It really is strange. If he ends up in Rafa's half, then that's 12 out of 12 that aren't at the French.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
It is amusing to see Nadal fans quaking in their boots about Murray. :lol: :lol:
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decades
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ouch. nadal looks like he has murray djok fed for the title....
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meg0529
Guest
Um the fug? According to them, both Murray AND Novak are in Rafa's draw???
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Who's quaking? I don't care if he plays Jesus. It's just a crazy coincidence and if it is somehow rigged, I think it's because their matchup is always so exciting it's done for ticket sales and ratings. No one on this page said anything about not wanting him to play Murray.
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meg0529
Guest
How does this even make sense? How are they talking about a draw that hasn't even been released??
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
Maybe not you, but you can clearly see the irrational fear present in many Nadal fans.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
That would be lulziest thing ever. Nadal having Djokovic and Murray in his draw. :lol:
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meg0529
Guest
I wouldn't be the least bit amused.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
It's definitely irrational, i'd rather see Rafa have to fight for a title than have it handed to him.
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Deleted member 54563
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Is it possible that the draw happened yesterday (wednesday) and the draw is just released worldwide on friday?
Wasn't some kind of draw ceremony supposed to happen (and maybe even be streamed) or does that only happen at Wimbledon or some other tourney?
This got me really intrigued now.
Wasn't some kind of draw ceremony supposed to happen (and maybe even be streamed) or does that only happen at Wimbledon or some other tourney?
This got me really intrigued now.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
I think Hafa would disagree. Im am sure Nadal wouldnt mind straight setting everyone on the way to the final. Even if they aren't the toughest of opponents.
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meg0529
Guest
The thing is these guys are in Ireland! lol. If it was Aussie, I'd be like okay maybe they have inside info! But you make a good point, it's possible it doesn't take place on Friday. So then the players must know?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
True, some match I was watching last year, the commentators summed up Nadal perfectly, he is the opposite of Sampras, where Sampras would be completely content to have a close match and hold serve and win in tiebreaks, Nadal gets very irritated sometimes when he doesn't win easily.
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meg0529
Guest
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
WTF!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cqoJBUPHQ&t=1m43s
do they already know the draw? Is tennis getting rigged?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
You are my hero! I hope one day have as much faith as u!
Im sure you probably do and just don't realize it. As much as it's AGONIZING watching an edge of your seat, see-saw match like Wimby 2008 or AO 2009 with Verdasco and Federer... don't you think those are his best victories? Who cares about the Roland Garros 2008 final? It sucks while it's happening but in retrospect, i'd rather see Rafa winning a major while battling, then cruising.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
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meg0529
Guest
Yes, but OH! THE AGONY!
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meg0529
Guest
As opposed to the AO 09 final?
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meg0529
Guest
I'm very confused myself. If it turns out that it IS the draw, that would be really fishy. How did it get to freaking Ireland?? Notice they don't mention the women's draw. Do they not have that info? They also don't mention anyone but Nad, Fed, Nole and Murray.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
Now the 09 final was... pure sex. 2010 final- I honestly expected better from Murray but he got eaten alive by Federer. I think Nadal would do the same to him.
The only final last year that I had high hopes for was the French Open Final, but Soderling folded like a cheap garden chair at the site of a peak form Nadal.
Of course.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
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meg0529
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Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
It seems to me that the news report in the video is BOGUS. But boy, if on Friday it's actually Nadal with Muzz in QF and Djoker in SF, that would be shocking, coz then these guys legitimately have some inside info. Rigged draws would be bad for tennis..
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Well Fed had SO MANY slams in which he didn't have to contend with Nadal. Instead Fed faced a first time slam finalist - a greenhorn - who, before they knew it, would be down 2 sets to love. Fed was amazing in how quickly he demolished weaker opposition, who were less experienced at slam level.
On other hand, Nadal, until 2010, had to beat the putative GOAT (Federer) enroute to EVERYONE of his slam wins. Has anyone had to ever fight harder for their GS wins? So it's only fair, that Nadal too, in F.O and Wimb 2010, got weaker opponents and had an easier time.
That's what we would like to see; how Nadal handles the rest of the field once Fed's done. However it's a credit to Federer, that he's still playing better than anyone else, and Nadal might again have to go through him for the slams. That's just amazing, what this guy does when he's nearing 30..
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I just want Nadal to get that historical title. I don't care at all who's across the net as long as they lose.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Same here, but it would mean more if it's done in epic fashion.
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meg0529
Guest
That would be "interesting" as hell. It could also be a lucky guess on their part. I'm guessing these draws are public? It would kinda shady if they did something behind closed doors, and just put it out.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I don't know. Winning the tournament in straights would be cool too!
I'm expecting Rafa to get Murray and Djoko, he usually gets the hardest draws.
I'm expecting Rafa to get Murray and Djoko, he usually gets the hardest draws.
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meg0529
Guest
I agree, it would certainly shut a LOT of people up.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Winning the 1 tournament everyone said he couldn't (the USO) while only dropping ONE set, is good enough for me
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
If Nadal gets to the final, it means he's playing very well, and has a great shot to win the title considering his record in finals.
The only guy who perhaps could beat a peak Nadal in a slam final would be Andy Murray, based on how they matchup. I'm not worried about the rest of the field if Nadal actually gets to the final..
nadal_slam_king
Banned
I think they do "lottery" draw public but the lottery machine is just for show, and they really decide the draw behind locked doors in consultation with Laver.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
This video is from Boylesports - Ireland’s largest independent bookmaker and they have "tennis experts" providing a preview of the tournament. They do analysis for SEVERAL sports, and the video is also posted by BoyleSports themselves.
So, as ridiculous as it sounds, considering that they are a big bookmaker, maybe they do have independent/insider info?
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meg0529
Guest
You are absolutely right and that was my reasoning as well. It's not just some Joe Schmoe amateur video. It makes NO sense. Unless the tourney ppl are lying. Not to mention, for ppl who are betting on this stuff, seeing an actual draw from the website is more legitimate than a bunch of "experts" making claims of such a draw.
Also, if it is inside info, wouldn't they be careful in announcing it like that?
nadal_slam_king
Banned
I'm glad they weren't careful, and surely there is a journalist out there interested in the truth for a change who will report on this inconsistency
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