My 9yo son likes watching wood era more than modern tennis..

morten

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He even tell his friends. He finds it kind of boring to see the lack of diversity nowadays i think. And he loves the net attacks and touch/ angles of the past. And no i have not brainwashed him to say so ha ha. He sometimes likes watching Rafa and Fed too but usually walk away after about 5 minutes. But the old clips of Borg Mac Laver and so on he can watch for about half an hour. . He plays tennis btw..
 

dgold44

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He even tell his friends. He finds it kind of boring to see the lack of diversity nowadays i think. And he loves the net attacks and touch/ angles of the past. And no i have not brainwashed him to say so ha ha. He sometimes likes watching Rafa and Fed too but usually walk away after about 5 minutes. But the old clips of Borg Mac Laver and so on he can watch for about half an hour. . He plays tennis btw..

Maybe he should become an old school player of serve and volley and chip and charge
Depends on his reflexes ???
 

PDJ

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I love happening on videos of players that I've heard of but never seen.
And I'll always prefer watching an Evert/Goolagong-Cawley/Navratilova match to the majority of matches today. For me, far more intelligent and strategically skilful.
Your son is wise beyond his years :)
 

hoodjem

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My mother disliked too much of any one, particular style.

She hated the old serve-and-volley style because the points were over too fast.
She hated the Tracy Austin-Chris Evert backcourt rallies because the points went on forever.

She also liked her porridge to be right in the middle--just right.
 
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Shaolin

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He even tell his friends. He finds it kind of boring to see the lack of diversity nowadays i think. And he loves the net attacks and touch/ angles of the past. And no i have not brainwashed him to say so ha ha. He sometimes likes watching Rafa and Fed too but usually walk away after about 5 minutes. But the old clips of Borg Mac Laver and so on he can watch for about half an hour. . He plays tennis btw..

Get him a Prostaff 85 stat. He could be the next GOAT.
 

Shaolin

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I have 10 85s. .soon he can try one. I will cut it a bit. He loves the way they look. Now he use the ps95 18mm cut to 24 inches. He loves thin beams. Refuse to use thick beams. He says with the thin beam he can feel the ball more.. lol

You seriously may have a tennis prodigy on your hands! Hope to see you in the player's box at Wimbledon :)
 

morten

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He is really talented. And very athletic and love the slice and backhand smash and those flashy strokes. In tournaments, the few he has entered he plays percentage tennis maybe too much as he hates to give away free points. But experience will make him go for more in match play i think. He can play one handed and two handed backhand.. it remains to see if he continues to like tennis as he is really good at all sports he tries. . And when i tell him things about tecnique etc he doesnt listen or gets angry. I dont push but feel more like a nutty professor kind of guy.. if he finds friends to play against and grow up with anything can happen. . Sometimes he is keen sometimes he is not for a couple of months. 2 years ago he hit 1200 hits non stop with a soft ball in our living room.. But never after that.. lol. And today he hit the same wall with a red ball with his bare hands for two hours.. tweeners, backhand smashes, forehand slice etc.. its pretty cool... anyway. . Thanks for listening...
 
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TnsGuru

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Pete Sampras and his old coach Pete Fischer would study reels of old footage of Rod Laver as the ideal model to emulate. The goal was to someday win Wimbledon and to do so it wasn't going to be with a two-handed backhand backcourt style of play. This is why he changed to a one handed backhand and played an all-court game similar to RL.

I recall when he initially made the change to one handed, it seemed like a disaster because he was now losing to junior players he would normally beat easily. Fischer's theory was to look long term and not worry about the juniors. Luckily it turned out for the best. If PS would have kept his old style of play, he would not have had the same success.
 
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Comparing the old with the new always leads me to the same solitary conclusion.

The sooner the ITF / ATP / WTA mandates a maximum hoop size of 85 SqInches for sanctioned tournament play, the better things will be for all concerned.
 

TnsGuru

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Comparing the old with the new always leads me to the same solitary conclusion.

The sooner the ITF / ATP / WTA mandates a maximum hoop size of 85 SqInches for sanctioned tournament play, the better things will be for all concerned.

Look at pro baseball, they still use wood bats. College still uses aluminum and I heard the skill factor doesn't have to be as high to get results. With wood, it forces the player to have better mechanics and form thus increasing their skill.

With aluminum and I heard graphite bats as well, all you have to do is make solid contact and it's out of the park. Sanctioning the size and composite of rackets would level out the playing field tremendously and skill and tactics would come back.

I remember in the late 80's early 90's when graphite and larger head sizes became the norm on the tour and a lot of players would complain that they couldn't keep the ball on the court because of too much power. They ones who adjusted reaped the benefits. McEnroe embraced the new technology, Connors helped to design the PS 85 and endorsed it but I understand he didn't like it very much and switched back for a short time back to his T-2000 before finally finding a racket that suited him. Guys like Jimmy Arias who had a fabulous forehand using wood is an example of someone who didn't transition well with graphite and he slowly faded away.
 
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Look at pro baseball, they still use wood bats. College still uses aluminum and I heard the skill factor doesn't have to be as high to get results. With wood, it forces the player to have better mechanics and form thus increasing their skill.

With aluminum and I heard graphite bats as well, all you have to do is make solid contact and it's out of the park. Sanctioning the size and composite of rackets would level out the playing field tremendously and skill and tactics would come back.

I remember in the late 80's early 90's when graphite and larger head sizes became the norm on the tour and a lot of players would complain that they couldn't keep the ball on the court because of too much power. They ones who adjusted reaped the benefits. McEnroe embraced the new technology, Connors helped to design the PS 85 and endorsed it but I understand he didn't like it very much and switched back for a short time back to his T-2000 before finally finding a racket that suited him. Guys like Jimmy Arias who had a fabulous forehand using wood is an example of someone who didn't transition well with graphite and he slowly faded away.

I still want a old woodies rackets only exhibition. I would love seeing Margaret Court and Billie Jean King handling Kvitova et al. If you picked 8 greats and 8 currents I would think at least 2 greats make it to the semis.

They powers that be that nixed spaghetti strings should have said either we go with the composition and everything is allowed but must not be mid sized or over sized. Standard Jack Kramer size only.Or you can have an over size or mid size but it MUST be wood only, no aluminum and no graphite.
 

dgold44

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He even tell his friends. He finds it kind of boring to see the lack of diversity nowadays i think. And he loves the net attacks and touch/ angles of the past. And no i have not brainwashed him to say so ha ha. He sometimes likes watching Rafa and Fed too but usually walk away after about 5 minutes. But the old clips of Borg Mac Laver and so on he can watch for about half an hour. . He plays tennis btw..

They had no smart phones or PlayStation in those days lol

No really is your son taking professional lessons from a coach !!!
 
Yes. He is on a group program. Not individual lessons yet.. we will see. He wins most of his matches

@morten, a 9yo winning most of his matches is no indication of success in this sport. There could be many reasons for that which could evaporate very quickly.

If he loves the sport, 9yo is a very good age to begin private lessons (unless you coach him yourself). He can spend the next 3 to 4 years developing his stroke technique to an advanced level while enjoying competition tennis from a developmental angle.

Most 9yo and 10yo that I have seen who win everything, and I have seen a lot of them, fall off the perch by the time they are 15. This is because at that age most will lose as much as they win. If they are not used to losing matches, it is very hard for them to continue in the sport mentally especially if they are attracted to other things which tend to become more significant and appealing in the early to middle teenage years.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule. I wish you and your son the best of luck going forward.
 

newpball

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He even tell his friends. He finds it kind of boring to see the lack of diversity nowadays i think. And he loves the net attacks and touch/ angles of the past. And no i have not brainwashed him to say so ha ha. He sometimes likes watching Rafa and Fed too but usually walk away after about 5 minutes. But the old clips of Borg Mac Laver and so on he can watch for about half an hour. . He plays tennis btw..
9 year old kids worrying about "lack of diversity"?

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Okay....

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morten

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@morten, a 9yo winning most of his matches is no indication of success in this sport. There could be many reasons for that which could evaporate very quickly. Thanks. Well he loses too so this Sounds good. He is ok loosing too. What i do like is that he tries so many things out there.. And I beat him easily the few times we play.. to keep him grounded.lol . No seriously it remains to be seen if he will love the sport long term. He will need some friends to play with on a regular basis..i am not enough if you see what i mean, and tennis is not big in my country.

If he loves the sport, 9yo is a very good age to begin private lessons (unless you coach him yourself). He can spend the next 3 to 4 years developing his stroke technique to an advanced level while enjoying competition tennis from a developmental angle.

Most 9yo and 10yo that I have seen who win everything, and I have seen a lot of them, fall off the perch by the time they are 15. This is because at that age most will lose as much as they win. If they are not used to losing matches, it is very hard for them to continue in the sport mentally especially if they are attracted to other things which tend to become more significant and appealing in the early to middle teenage years.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule. I wish you and your son the best of luck going forward.
 
An exhibition between Rod Laver and Bjorn Borg on clay is one of my favorite matches to watch.

It will never happen of course but if tennis put a power governor on the pro game through managing the size and composition of tennis racquets
that could be used by pros the sport would gain astronomically.
 

TnsGuru

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An exhibition between Rod Laver and Bjorn Borg on clay is one of my favorite matches to watch.

It will never happen of course but if tennis put a power governor on the pro game through managing the size and composition of tennis racquets
that could be used by pros the sport would gain astronomically.
This match?
 
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