My first tournament :o

jaybear1909

Rookie
I consider myself a 4.0- (between 3.5 and 4.0) so I joined a 3.5 tournament. I initially considered trying 4.0, but was talked into 3.5 by a guy on my alta team. He told me he played a 3.5 tournament and was matched up against former college players.

I feel that if my opponent is better than me I'll be fine. I love playing people when I feel extremely competitive; it's when I feel I play my best tennis. However, I'm worried that I will be "sandbagging". The reason I'm worried about this is because I did a 3.5 league and wasn't too impressed (only played one competitive match).

Should I expect the same level of play in the tournament as in the 3.5 league? I'm assuming no, because it's a tournament, but with it being my first one I have no idea what to expect. I researched a couple of guys and saw that 1 played 4.0 league and the other did 4.0-, but did so-so.
 

josofo

Semi-Pro
I consider myself a 4.0- (between 3.5 and 4.0) so I joined a 3.5 tournament. I initially considered trying 4.0, but was talked into 3.5 by a guy on my alta team. He told me he played a 3.5 tournament and was matched up against former college players.

I feel that if my opponent is better than me I'll be fine. I love playing people when I feel extremely competitive; it's when I feel I play my best tennis. However, I'm worried that I will be "sandbagging". The reason I'm worried about this is because I did a 3.5 league and wasn't too impressed (only played one competitive match).

Should I expect the same level of play in the tournament as in the 3.5 league? I'm assuming no, because it's a tournament, but with it being my first one I have no idea what to expect. I researched a couple of guys and saw that 1 played 4.0 league and the other did 4.0-, but did so-so.



id do the 4.0 tournament if i was you. there are some tough 3.5 singles players but a lot of average players as well. in 4.0 you are more likely to get just good solid players.
 

floridatennisdude

Hall of Fame
I consider myself a 4.0- (between 3.5 and 4.0) so I joined a 3.5 tournament. I initially considered trying 4.0, but was talked into 3.5 by a guy on my alta team. He told me he played a 3.5 tournament and was matched up against former college players.

I feel that if my opponent is better than me I'll be fine. I love playing people when I feel extremely competitive; it's when I feel I play my best tennis. However, I'm worried that I will be "sandbagging". The reason I'm worried about this is because I did a 3.5 league and wasn't too impressed (only played one competitive match).

Should I expect the same level of play in the tournament as in the 3.5 league? I'm assuming no, because it's a tournament, but with it being my first one I have no idea what to expect. I researched a couple of guys and saw that 1 played 4.0 league and the other did 4.0-, but did so-so.

My experience is that you'll run into some "tournament" players. I have played tournaments sparingly and enjoy league more. The tournament players I find to be just a bit fitter than your typical league opponents. They have the same skill set, but can handle playing 3 matches in a day (or more if playing multiple draws).

I think that a tournament player will generally grind out a first or second round match. Then, when it gets to the later rounds, they just have better legs than the less experienced tournament opponents. They win more by attrition than by talent.
 

leech

Semi-Pro
It'll depend on the type of players the tournament attracts. Can you sign up for both levels?

I'm playing in my first tourney as well. My second round opponent is a solid 3.5, and he signed up for the 4.0 tournament as well as the 3.5 one. He said he took the first set vs. the 4.0 player 6-3, then lost the last two sets 3-6. Said he felt like he should've won, after taking 5-1 lead in the first. But the 4.0 player settled down and made fewer errors the rest of the match.
 

OrangePower

Legend
I'm assuming you are talking about USTA tournament, and comparing to USTA league. If non-USTA, then all bets are off...

In my experience the players I face in league are generally better than those I face in tournaments, but those in tournaments are fitter (more used to playing back to back matches as floridatennisdude says).

This is probably because the better league players in my area generally don't play tournaments for whatever reason, wheras most tournament players also play league.
 
My experience is that you'll run into some "tournament" players. I have played tournaments sparingly and enjoy league more. The tournament players I find to be just a bit fitter than your typical league opponents. They have the same skill set, but can handle playing 3 matches in a day (or more if playing multiple draws).

I think that a tournament player will generally grind out a first or second round match. Then, when it gets to the later rounds, they just have better legs than the less experienced tournament opponents. They win more by attrition than by talent.

I definitely concur with what you say floridatennisdude but I'm a tournament player rather than a league player. I've never played USTA league tennis so I have no idea of the format of play. i.e. playing one match or more.

I like to refer to USTA tournaments here in Texas as Iron Man tennis. I'm usually good for two singles matches a day and I've had a couple of tournaments where if I kept winning I was going to play three. For one, it was a bummer because I won my first two matches with the second being a grinder. I had no gas left for the third but played a couple of points so I could get credit for my earlier wins.

For me, I'd rather play tournaments because although I like team sports, I prefer playing tennis as an individual. Win or lose, it's just me...

Yes, because I'm not a fit as I want to be, attrition in tournaments is my enemy... LOL

H76
 

The Wreck

Semi-Pro
I don't think you'll be disappointed with the quality of the 3.5 opponents. My buddy would consider himself a 3.5 and played at 3.0 last year and wound up getting run ragged by the #1 ranked 3.0 in the state. I played at 4.0 (but think I'm a 4.5) and played one guy who lost every match at 3.0 but decided to play up, and then played the #1 ranked 4.0, split sets, but then had to withdraw because of weather/scheduling conflicts.

So basically it's a mixed bag, but I have a hard time believing you'd be "sandbagging" at 3.5. Not saying you won't win, cause you very well may, but I wouldn't count on blowing everyone off the court.

I'm from Georgia also. What level in ALTA do you play?
 

dizzlmcwizzl

Hall of Fame
Much like Orange Power said I suspect that if you are comparing a sanctioned USTA tournament vs a USTA league you should expect the league players to be consistently better in terms of their skill level, but perhaps not fitness level. However often times in tournies you will play tournament only players that are out of level.

Specifically I mean that if you are a solid 3.5 league player you should expect to be very competitive in a 3.5 tourney but be prepared to roll over a pretender with an inflated view of their level. It is not nearly as likely that you will play someone who is playing well below their level (and blow you out) but it does happen.
 

goran_ace

Hall of Fame
Tournament tennis is completely different than league tennis. Leagues only ask you to play once a week and you can do what you want in between (practice vs. rest/heal). You just have to put together two good sets. To do well in tournaments you have to be able to string together a few good matches over a 2-3 day span.

I'd say league play is at a more consistent level match to match because you're only asked to play once a week. In tournaments, some guys play a good first round match and then fall off of cliff, the better players can get through the first one or two rounds relatively easily and save their best stuff for the semi's or the finals.
 

apor

Rookie
i play both tournaments and league. you definitely have to be in better shape for the tourneys.
I played one last spring where we ended up squeezing the whole thing into one day- which for me consisted of 3 singles and two doubles matches. needless to say, i could hardly walk once i sat down.
you have to eat properly starting days before the weekend, hydrate well, and replenish during the tournament.
 

jaybear1909

Rookie
So here's my Tournament results:

Friday: Played one match. Opponent was an older guy, but right from the warm-up I could tell he was very consistent. No weapon but anything that came to him would come back. He held the first game and I went away with the rest. I kept the ball away from him and used his lack of movement against him. Won the match 6-1 6-0 and he said "I better win or he's gonna be pissed" (very nice guy, he came to the rest of my matches).

Second match was Saturday. Played an 80 (some say 87) year old (couldn't believe it!). He played for Georgia Tech back in the 50s. He was consistent and could take my serves extremely early but he didn't do too much with his shots. Very short slicey strokes. I won 6-0 6-2 (last two games I felt like a jerk. I probably hit 30+ winners because he couldn't move well. Turns out he's good friends with my first opponent [who was watching] and they bet to see who could get the most games off me). I think at the end of the match he shouted "I won!" haha.

3rd match I played Sunday (it was the Semi-finals). Another older guy but this guy could move well and had a very solid slice backhand (I'm 6'4 so slices aren't my favorite). Right from the start I took a solid lead but let it slip and he broke back for 2-2. As the match progressed I became more and more unconfident with my strokes. I just couldn't get enough whip action to bring his slices up and down so I found myself pushing the ball at times. I played the worst net play of my life (had tons of put away opportunities and fluked) and I started to think of how I could make the best of this bad day. He took the first set. The second set I started to play more aggressively on his serve. I could easily pounce on the second serve and hit either a winner or a good approach. I got in the groove of breaking his serve, but for some reason couldn't hold mine. He ended up going up 5-3 with me serving. I played some very loose points and went down 15-40, giving him two match points. I was already extremely frustrated with myself, so I decided just to go for some big serves and hope for the best. Hoping worked! I hit two bombs and brought the game to deuce. I ended up taking the game for 4-5. On his serve I broke him very easily. And then he returned the favor and broke me back. I felt very comfortable in the tiebreak and took the set 7-6 (1). Third set I played much better and started hitting my net shots. Won the match 4-6, 7-6(1), 6-1.

DIRECTLY after that 3 hour 3-setter, I had to go play a final. I decided not to take too big of a break so that I wouldn't lose momentum. My opponent was a much different look that my previous match. He had a hard return and hit deep with topspin. His first serve was hard and flat but his second sat up right where I liked it. He had a flat backhand and not much of a slice. I started weak and went down 0-2 but found my focus and brought it back to 2-2. He held after serving 4 big first serves and then I held. When he was serving at 3-3 his first serves didn't work so well and I had alot of looks at second serves. I pummeled the ones that came up shoulder high and broke him for 4-3. I held to go up 5-3 and ended up serving out the set to win it 6-4 after he held serve. I played very lazy in the 2nd set and missed alot of opportunities. My strokes began to feel powerless and I started to get a little tired. My feet were so wet that when I went to run for a drop shot my foot slid into the tip of my shoe (bruised my toe - O____O). I lost the set 6-3 or 6-4 I can't remember. During the break I changed socks, grips and shirts and felt very fresh. I went up 3-0 right away and he held a very hard deuce-ad game to bring the score to 3-1. I played loosely after not converting and got broken. He held again and we were back on serve. At 3-3 I gave him one break point opportunity. I decided that I needed to start going for my big serves again. I hit some very important aces and held serve to go up 4-3. He held for 4-4 and I held for 5-4. We had a tough game but I ended up taking the set 6-4.

Overall I had alot of fun in the tournament. I found some flaws in my game though and I look to improve them. Think I'll try 4.0 next time around (2 months).

Thanks to anyone that read!
 
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jaybear1909

Rookie
Nice report. What is your background? Age/Years played/hours per week??

Age:20
Years Played: 2 & 3 months
Hours per week: Eh toward the beginning I played everyday for at least 2 hours. Was probably playing 20-30 hours a week some weeks. Now I play around 8 hours a week considering school/work.

Had a high school coach for about 2 1/2 months, but it took me a lot of that time just to learn topspin lol. Once I got that down it was on! He mainly just drilled (we were a sucky HS team).
 

jdubbs

Hall of Fame
I say play up at 4.0 with a goal of getting to 4.5. I found that the good matches happened at the later rounds. Its kind of ridiculous to pay good money and then just breadstick a couple of 80 year olds. Not how I want to spend an afternoon.
Go in with the attitude of progressing, not necessarily winning. to do that, you have to lose...a lot.

That being said, congrats on winning!
 

jaybear1909

Rookie
I say play up at 4.0 with a goal of getting to 4.5. I found that the good matches happened at the later rounds. Its kind of ridiculous to pay good money and then just breadstick a couple of 80 year olds. Not how I want to spend an afternoon.
Go in with the attitude of progressing, not necessarily winning. to do that, you have to lose...a lot.

That being said, congrats on winning!

I wasn't expecting an 80 year old lol. Got my moneys worth in the last two matches
 
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