my friend and i like the same girl, need help

[Deuce]

Don't ya like how people who are moral crusaders give this kind of advice?

Sounds like you're the one on a "moral crusade" here - one with an arrogant angle to it.

I'm just trying to define respect for the kid, who seems to be totally confused about the meaning of the word.
I'm also letting him know how his words are perceived in the world of intelligent persons possessing self-respect.

 

[tarheels2323]

I haven't read a single post in this thread aside from the OP's first post... well, the first few sentences. I feel as if I don't need to and here's my opinion...

You're young... what you do now doesn't really matter. I'm 21 and from experience I can tell you that there are going to be much bigger things in your life than this. I know I'm still young and there are alot of people here (hopefully they're still around) that know alot more than me but being a few years older than you it's very clear that this is all ******** that you'll realize later on doesn't matter.

Here's the point... it might seem like it's all that matters now but in the long run it's nothing. Have fun man, enjoy the last few years of high school and especially college. From someone that doesn't know where the last few years went... savor all of it and don't worry about the little things. See the big picture and make sure to step back and admire it once in a while.

 

[Deuce]

This thread just went down another notch once Deuce came. Time to unsubscribe, k, thanks.

Indeed, the thread was of extremely high intellectual calibre, wasn't it, with references to "bros b4 hoes". The stuff of pure intellectual genius...

As adults, the more we accept this garbage from kids, the more we encourage it.
I maintain that it's much more positive and progressive to teach kids to be intelligent and respectful, rather than to be dumb and detached.
Higher standards are a good thing.

Good riddance.

 

[BkK_b0y14]

Wow, I said the phrase once and you're jumping all over me for it. I know it can be percieved as a disrespectful phrase. At the time of that post I was pissed off and wasn't thinking, and now I realize that. Next time I'll use a better phrase like "Friends before girlfriends" or something. Happy?

 

[consistency wins]

This thread was started over a year ago and people are still offering advice. Think this dilemma still exists today? Why bicker over it????

 

[consistency wins]

Wow, I said the phrase once and you're jumping all over me for it. I know it can be percieved as a disrespectful phrase. At the time of that post I was pissed off and wasn't thinking, and now I realize that. Next time I'll use a better phrase like "Friends before girlfriends" or something. Happy?

Deuce will argue with everyone on the planet and always take the high road. Don't get upset or troubled over Deuce. He's picked battles with me that have been deleted on here. It is within his character.

Didn't read the whole thread--still have this dilemma going on?

 

[Deuce]

Wow, I said the phrase once and you're jumping all over me for it. I know it can be percieved as a disrespectful phrase. At the time of that post I was pissed off and wasn't thinking, and now I realize that. Next time I'll use a better phrase like "Friends before girlfriends" or something. Happy?

Think before you speak (or type).
You need to learn about the power that words have.

Try this little experiment...
In a case like this one, if you wouldn't use a word - or phrase - in front of the girl in question, then you should not use it when she's not around, either.

If you don't believe me, try it for yourself - tell her that you and your buddy made a pact of "bros b4 hoes". I'm sure it'll win you a lot of points with her.

 

[BkK_b0y14]

LOL, I remember this thread Just update though, my friend broke up with the girl like last September/October. We're still good friends and I've actually gotten closer to the girl, now I'm deciding if a relationship is really worth it.

^^ Theres the update

Deuce, I totally understand the effects jeez. I am not that typical teenager that you think I am. I have a lot of girl-friends and they would back me up in saying that I respect women very much, sometimes more than men.

 

[consistency wins]

^^ Theres the update

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Thanks-give me a few to share my thoughts...if you're interested in them.

 

[consistency wins]

Think before you speak (or type).
You need to learn about the power that words have.

Try this little experiment...
In a case like this one, if you wouldn't use a word - or phrase - in front of the girl in question, then you should not use it when she's not around, either.

If you don't believe me, try it for yourself - tell her that you and your buddy made a pact of "bros b4 hoes". I'm sure it'll win you a lot of points with her.

I don't think I ever recall this young man asking for your advice, did he?

 

[BkK_b0y14]

Deuce, did you not read the part where I realize that I made a mistake and shouldn't have said what I said? I'm trying to apologize here but apparently you are too blind to see it and accept it. There's a reason I posted this thread here, I know there's a lot more "experienced" guys out there and I wanted their advice. I'm a teenager and I am young, and I enjoy seeking honest advice that will help me in the future and aid my decision-making.

Con, I would love to hear some of your advice.

 

[consistency wins]

Deuce, did you not read the part where I realize that I made a mistake and shouldn't have said what I said? I'm trying to apologize here but apparently you are too blind to see it and accept it. There's a reason I posted this thread here, I know there's a lot more "experienced" guys out there and I wanted their advice. I'm a teenager and I am young, and I enjoy seeking honest advice that will help me in the future and aid my decision-making.

Con, I would love to hear some of your advice.

Ok, I'll type it up here shortly. And remember that we live in a world of new slang and terms. I have heard the term you used a thousand times over and it was always said in a way of a bond between friends and not a demeaning gesture towards women. Regardless of the words you chose, I embraced the bond and respect towards your friend...ok, let me ponder how to type this.

 

[consistency wins]

You wondered if a relationship is worth it...well, the risks are really not that great. If he is your friend and you are really fond of her--then of course it is worth it. I'll give you some insight to me.

My ex cheated on me when I was in Afghanistan. The guy she cheated on was my best friend. When we split and divorced, I supported her and hoped for the best for both of them. In time, she found out he cheated on her and they split. Now, she has someone new.

I really like this guy. My daughter (which I share with her) likes him as well. I care about my ex and want her to succeed in life and romance. Because I care for her and like this guy, I do everything in my power to support their new found romance. I have bought him shrimp to grill when I found out he likes shrimp. I offer to sit my daughter and her other kids if they want to go out. They are going to a Titans game this Saturday and I offered to watch all four kids that night so they can go enjoy the game.

My point is that if your friend cares about you and her--he will support the two of you. The slang term of "bro's before hoe's" really only applies if he is your true friend. You are not 'dissing' him if you like or love her. It is what you feel and if he does not support that--then maybe he is not as good of a friend as you thought.

A true friend would want to see the two of you happy. Life is pretty short. There are no guarantees in life. If she makes you happy and you make her happy-give it a shot.

Sit down with your buddy and tell him your feelings and see what he says--he may surprise you in the end.

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[Deuce]

Ok, I'll type it up here shortly. And remember that we live in a world of new slang and terms. I have heard the term you used a thousand times over and it was always said in a way of a bond between friends and not a demeaning gesture towards women. Regardless of the words you chose, I embraced the bond and respect towards your friend...ok, let me ponder how to type this.

"New slang terms"... that are fuelled by indifference and a demeaning lack of respect for fellow humans.
I'm of the opinion that, for those reasons, we should not accept these "new slang terms".

I'm sure you'd be thrilled if a boy referred to your daughter as a "ho". He'd jump right to the front of the line in terms of who you'd like her to date, right?

 

[consistency wins]

"New slang terms"... that are fueled by indifference and a demeaning lack of respect for fellow humans.
I'm of the opinion that, for those reasons, we should not accept these "new slang terms".

I'm sure you'd be thrilled if a boy referred to your daughter as a "ho". He'd jump right to the front of the line in terms of who you'd like her to date, right?

Right.

Ten char...

Next....

I'll not get into your arguments about morality again, Deuce. Thanks for playing, though.

 

[BkK_b0y14]

See, now that's the kind of advice I'm looking for. Con, I am sorry that you had to go through something like that and I hope you find someone special. Your advice is very helpful and I will always keep it in mind.

 

[consistency wins]

See, now that's the kind of advice I'm looking for. Con, I am sorry that you had to go through something like that and I hope you find someone special. Your advice is very helpful and I will always keep it in mind.

Just remember, you can have good friends and good women simultaneously.

 

[consistency wins]

"New slang terms"... that are fuelled by indifference and a demeaning lack of respect for fellow humans.
I'm of the opinion that, for those reasons, we should not accept these "new slang terms".

I'm sure you'd be thrilled if a boy referred to your daughter as a "ho". He'd jump right to the front of the line in terms of who you'd like her to date, right?

But, I will agree we should not accept these new slang terms--you are right on that point. But a grown and experienced man should not jump down a kid's throat instantly on a message board when he repeats it. This guy is looking for advice--not someone to slam him when he is opening his heart and world to those of us here.

 

[Deuce]

But, I will agree we should not accept these new slang terms--you are right on that point.

^ Thank you.

But a grown and experienced man should not jump down a kid's throat instantly on a message board when he repeats it. This guy is looking for advice--not someone to slam him when he is opening his heart and world to those of us here.

I believe that respect among youth is an extremely important thing.

You get your point across your way, and I'll get mine across my way.

 

[BkK_b0y14]

"New slang terms"... that are fuelled by indifference and a demeaning lack of respect for fellow humans.
I'm of the opinion that, for those reasons, we should not accept these "new slang terms".

I'm sure you'd be thrilled if a boy referred to your daughter as a "ho". He'd jump right to the front of the line in terms of who you'd like her to date, right?

Deuce, just give it up man. Being active reader and poster of this forum I notice patterns in all of your posts. You like to assume things and make personal attacks on people you don't even know. You know what happens when we assume right? I find it kind of ironic that you are trying to teach me about respect when in many instances you show disrespect to complete strangers. And by you not accepting my apology further proves my point. IMO you should put an H in between the C and E in your name.

 

[consistency wins]

^ Thank you.


I believe that respect among youth is an extremely important thing.

You get your point across your way, and I'll get mine across my way.

You have to earn respect--not demand or push it. But, to each their own...Good luck with your way.

 

[consistency wins]

Deuce, just give it up man. Being active reader and poster of this forum I notice patterns in all of your posts. You like to assume things and make personal attacks on people you don't even know. You know what happens when we assume right? I find it kind of ironic that you are trying to teach me about respect when in many instances you show disrespect to complete strangers. And by you not accepting my apology further proves my point. IMO you should put an H in between the C and E in your name.

You've got my respect just by being man enough to open your world to us.

 

[Deuce]

Deuce, just give it up man. Being active reader and poster of this forum I notice patterns in all of your posts. You like to assume things and make personal attacks on people you don't even know. You know what happens when we assume right? I find it kind of ironic that you are trying to teach me about respect when in many instances you show disrespect to complete strangers. And by you not accepting my apology further proves my point. IMO you should put an H in between the C and E in your name.

You're just digging your hole deeper, kid.

If you think you're demonstrating your knowledge or your maturity with a post like that...

... you're wrong.

 

[Deuce]

You have to earn respect--not demand or push it. But, to each their own...Good luck with your way.

Kids should be taught to respect others until they show themselves unworthy of their respect.
But things are going in the opposite direction today - with kids inherently showing little or no respect to others.
And that's not a healthy sign for society.

 

[consistency wins]

Kids should be taught to respect others until they show themselves unworthy of their respect.
But things are going in the opposite direction today - with kids inherently showing little or no respect to others.
And that's not a healthy sign for society.

Perfect example: he was strong enough to apologize and you never recognized it.


I think you are right in many things you say--it is just your approach that is lacking in tact on occasion.

 

[Hot Sauce]

Don't feel bad, BKK. This is just the way Deuce tries to communicate with other human beings. Sadly, his species will never find an effective nor responsible way of speech. We call his race, the hoe.

 

[Hot Sauce]

You're just digging your hole deeper, kid.

If you think you're demonstrating your knowledge or your maturity with a post like that...

... you're wrong.

What gardening tool did he use to dig that hole? A hoe? AYOHHH! I'M ON FIYA!!

 

[beedlejuice22]

So what happened with this girl? Did either of you end up asking her out?

 

[beedlejuice22]

Never mind. I found the answer on page 6.

 

[BkK_b0y14]

You're just digging your hole deeper, kid.

If you think you're demonstrating your knowledge or your maturity with a post like that...

... you're wrong.

No, you're just in denial because you haven't had anyone from this board outright attack you and show to the rest of posters what kind of personality you have. And yet I'm still waiting.............

 

[Hot Sauce]

No, you're just in denial because you haven't had anyone from this board outright attack you and show to the rest of posters what kind of personality you have. And yet I'm still waiting.............

Are you kidding me? This happens daily with Deuce.

 

[BkK_b0y14]

Oh, I wouldn't know........

 

[sapient007]

not sure if it has been suggested yet but how about just a good old fashioned ****

 

[BkK_b0y14]

^^ Huh......what?

 

[BkK_b0y14]

Lol, Deuce where did you go?

 

[verdasco]

You Guys Should Have A Threesome That Would Be So Awesome And Everyone Wins!

Omg I'm So Mature I Hope This Advice Helps!

 

[verdasco]

caps lock oops

 

[Bundey]

Tear her her up dude. Motor boat her.