My Game on Camera - Losing the V-Card

CptnRiceKrispy

New User
When you play guys that hit soft like your partner, maybe you should try moving your feet more. Split step like the guy is hitting hard, and get turned earlier. You have no power on your shots because you are using a heavy western grip and are not slugging it with your full body.

I had a similar issue and switched grips and worked on my feet and weight transfer.

If you want to play college level, you will need to hit a heavier ball. What you are hitting now would be crushed because it bounces into the strike zone with no pace.

Hmm...heavy western grip? i always believed that i played with with a semi-western. are there any huge differences between the two?

and i agree that i need to hit the ball harder and use my body weight better.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Not sure if you can really hit the ball "harder" and still have control.
Power Player means to hit thru the ball more, hitting it flatTER, not flat, and make the ball go faster with less loop. All that loop and arc slows down the ballspeed, so you need to hit more balls for each point.
 

atatu

Legend
Thank you for that. I've just seen a bunch of bad serving Asians post recently, and it's really getting to me.
Oh oh....one of my buds I play with, a GaryLee, now from Oakland, serves about a 24mph underspin/side component serve in matches. He could easily play in 4.0 doubles, if the other team lost patience just a little. Great lobber, retriever, volleyer, and a powerful overhead, he serves short and wide because his shoulders get sore, and he likes defensive tennis. I used to see his name in the 3rd round of ChineseNationals, and wondered who he was.

Ok, I know it must seem like I'm going out of my way to disagree with you, but once again Lee, this is a little much. I know you're like 70 years old and when you grew up it was fine to say dumba** things like "all asians serve like this..." but come on, it's 2010, seriously.
 

CptnRiceKrispy

New User
Not sure if you can really hit the ball "harder" and still have control.
Power Player means to hit thru the ball more, hitting it flatTER, not flat, and make the ball go faster with less loop. All that loop and arc slows down the ballspeed, so you need to hit more balls for each point.

Hmm...i'm pretty sure I can get some more pop on my shots. Back in the summer i was getting some really good quality tennis in and i was hitting the ball alot better than i am now. This spring im really looking to make a transition from just playing for fun to more of a serious, training player.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Hey, if you're gonna pick on me, why don't you include the other two Asians who agreed with me here?
I'm not being catagorical. I tell you I have a GREAT fast serve for a 61 year old Asian. I just haven't posted my vid yet.
 

atatu

Legend
Hey, if you're gonna pick on me, why don't you include the other two Asians who agreed with me here?
I'm not being catagorical. I tell you I have a GREAT fast serve for a 61 year old Asian. I just haven't posted my vid yet.

Ok, good point. Just don't lump the Japanese into the group, please. See Takao Suzuki, as exhibit 1.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Well, tiny little MichaelChang was timed at 125 at the French.
And I'd bet ParadornSchrichipan can whack a few over 130.
I wonder how fast JeremyLin of the GoldenState Warriors D squad could serve if he took up tennis? He's just over 6'3", athletic as all get out, young and still growing.
We know Yao will never serve fast, too injured.
But YiJialian looks pretty athletic, and long too, at 6'10".
 

shindemac

Hall of Fame
Your stroke is ok, but I'm not sure I like your straight arm and windmill motion. Your biggest problem is your lack of use of the athletic stance and hitting almost every shot off balance. There's no split step either. Bend your knees!

Your cousin is a moonballer and giving you slow shots. Once you play someone who hits flatter, your balance issues will affect your movement and ability to hit clean strokes. Get into the ready position! You do know what this is, right?:???:
 

lonux

Hall of Fame
Your forehand is pretty solid. It just looks incredibly slow and weak, but I think that's more because of your opponent.

Your backhand needs some changes, but I'll leave that to the others...
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
You might also try and hit the ball on the rise. It's one of the few things that your opponent is doing right. You're giving yourself too much time to set yourself up on those groundstrokes and given your premature draw on the forehand, you're wasting precious time that could be used robbing your opponent of his.

So two things I can suggest you try:
1) Try have a slightly looper swing
2) Hit the ball on the rise

If you do 2) then you don't have to worry about your early draw on the forehand.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Not sure if you can really hit the ball "harder" and still have control.
Power Player means to hit thru the ball more, hitting it flatTER, not flat, and make the ball go faster with less loop. All that loop and arc slows down the ballspeed, so you need to hit more balls for each point.

Yes exactly. I believe the op can attack the shots he is getting in that video, but his footwork is lazy. I dealt with a lot of moon balls last night in the wind at 40 degrees, and just kept split stepping and prepping early.
 

CptnRiceKrispy

New User
Hmm...I think over the next couple weeks I'll do try and implement some changes to my game one at a time.

Main things Im gonna try:

1. Change my grip to more of a semi-western. (right now i think im like in between a semi and a full western) LOL is that even possible?

2. Work on split stepping before every shot.

3. Keep working on my serve (the tips I received were actually very useful and i saw immediate results. just making sure my arm didnt go straight improved the power i saw immensely. Then work on a match ready slice serve.

4. backhand slice...?
 
Hmm...I think over the next couple weeks I'll do try and implement some changes to my game one at a time.

Main things Im gonna try:

1. Change my grip to more of a semi-western. (right now i think im like in between a semi and a full western) LOL is that even possible?

2. Work on split stepping before every shot.

3. Keep working on my serve (the tips I received were actually very useful and i saw immediate results. just making sure my arm didnt go straight improved the power i saw immensely. Then work on a match ready slice serve.

4. backhand slice...?

I rewatched your video, and (I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet) when you serve, you bend your knees, but you don't exactly push off with them to get the power you can be getting with it. You're kinda like just bending your knees and using only your upper body for your serve.

And never throw your racket.
 
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