MY POLY REVIEWS

Nostradamus said:
LOL...maybe it is just me. but I feel like I was getting much more RPM with Tourbite soft than alu power. and feel was so good, I had good control of depth of shots
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It is hard to discuss someone elses perception, if it works for you keep using it :) I know I found a solid setup when I hear: "Holy s***"!" from the other side of the court lol
 
Mareqnyc said:
It is hard to discuss someone elses perception, if it works for you keep using it :) I know I found a solid setup when I hear: "Holy s***"!" from the other side of the court lol
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So far it has been Head Graphene Prestige Pro with Big Ace 1.28 @53 and Head Pro Tour 630 with Solinco Revolution 1.15 @ 50. Both setups dropping bombs like nothing else.
 
16g, but leave a folded over piece of string in the last cross knot, so you can lock down the frame, and redo the crosses only, changing the tensions, and use 16g x1 biphase. If you dont' follow the direction precisely, you won't get the game changer you are after.
 
kiteboard said:
16g, but leave a folded over piece of string in the last cross knot, so you can lock down the frame, and redo the crosses only, changing the tensions, and use 16g x1 biphase. If you dont' follow the direction precisely, you won't get the game changer you are after.
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Got it. I am intrigued to see how this will play vs uniform tension
 
Mareqnyc said:
So far it has been Head Graphene Prestige Pro with Big Ace 1.28 @53 and Head Pro Tour 630 with Solinco Revolution 1.15 @ 50. Both setups dropping bombs like nothing else.
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Someone actually gave me some revolution as a gift yesterday. Unless I missed it from an earlier post, any feedback on how revolution is as a string? How does it compare to cyclone (especially on arm friendliness)?
 
bobombom said:
Someone actually gave me some revolution as a gift yesterday. Unless I missed it from an earlier post, any feedback on how revolution is as a string? How does it compare to cyclone (especially on arm friendliness)?
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I played 3 sets with Solinco Revolution 18g@ 50lb in a Prestige 18x20 yesterday. It is in interesting string and so far beats Cyclone in every department. I remember playing Revolution 16g and not enjoying it that much. Thinner gauges are softer and grab the ball better no doubt. So far Revolution is my favorite textured string.

In terms of arm friendliness - It is still a relatively stiff poly, plays soft but is crispier than Cyclone. In Tennis warehouse's Lab both score under 200 in stiffness which usually translates to "comfortable" for poly. It pockets the ball great, control and spin are phenomenal. Power is right where you want it, I might consider stringing it even lower that 50 next time to see if the control suffers and gain some more juice. According to Racuettune It lost 7 lbs in 2 hrs of heavy hitting - not bad at all.

I want to hit with it a couple of more times to see how playability/durability goes before I put it in the diagram but will def. be high on the list
 
Some on this site are not, but Mareqnyc seems like he is. Make sure to string the job as I directed for the full affect. Must be tough expensive to play indoors nyc. So he's got money. He listens. He gets excited. He experiments with that excitement. Sounds like a positive to me.
 
Jumping to conclusions a bit kiteboard :) I still play outdoors it's almost 60 here still and its December already. And yes indoors can get pretty expensive, but off peak you can get 2hrs of singles for $23 per person so not that bad. Testing new stuff will slow down a bit over winter. Thanks for the good word nevertheless!

Do you know anyone else who strings crosses like you do? I have never heard about this practice
kiteboard said:
Some on this site are not, but Mareqnyc seems like he is. Make sure to string the job as I directed for the full affect. Must be tough expensive to play indoors nyc. So he's got money. He listens. He gets excited. He experiments with that excitement. Sounds like a positive to me.
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bobombom said:
Well, you've inspired me to try some big ace and some revolution. I'm itching to try them once my elbow cools off..
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I know the agony of a flared up elbow :/ There is tons of info on this issue on this forum, seems like different adjustments work for different people. I think I have tried it all, now the elbow is ok but the wrist is acting up.. smh
 
I have also: mixed different crosses, ie, tb 18g on down from the 12th cross down, and put vs gut in the 4-5-6 cross on down, and put vs/ x1/tb all in the same string job /crosses. No one that I know of, esp. redoing the same cross, while leaving the same main.
 
kiteboard said:
I have also: mixed different crosses, ie, tb 18g on down from the 12th cross down, and put vs gut in the 4-5-6 cross on down, and put vs/ x1/tb all in the same string job /crosses. No one that I know of, esp. redoing the same cross, while leaving the same main.
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Yes I have read your posts on mixing up different crosses. Not a good experience generally was it? I just strung up Solinco Revolution 18g in a Pro Tour 630 and Red Code 18 in Prestige Pro, will need 8 hrs of play on each setup. Tw and x1 are in the mail and will string them up next.
 
kiteboard said:
I have also: mixed different crosses, ie, tb 18g on down from the 12th cross down, and put vs gut in the 4-5-6 cross on down, and put vs/ x1/tb all in the same string job /crosses. No one that I know of, esp. redoing the same cross, while leaving the same main.
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Should I put it in 18x20 or 16x19 pattern or it doesn't matter?
 
My training partner has a deal with solinco, so we have tried everything they have. We both prefer TB and Diamond Rough over anything else. I rank TB as the gold standard for tweener , PD-type racquets. He likes DR for the control and heavy ball it produces. Not as much spin as TB.

I also really like BHBR17. For the first couple of hours, it is magic.
 
bobombom said:
How would you compare revolution to bhb7 or big ace? Any changes to your rank list?
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I need another 3-4 hours with Revolution to see how the playability changes to put it on the list.

Revolution has less power than bhbr, feels firmer and grabs the ball better imho. Both provide awesome spin but it seemed like I could manipulate the ball better with the Revolution. Revolution seemed to produce higher trajectory while BHBR more penetrating shot (thanks to highee power) but as any softer poly it lost tension dramatically after 2hrs and turned into a rocket launcher.

Big Ace seems to be a child of the two although it is smooth and round. Works best for my game so far. Plush feel, good power, high trajectory shots that drop like a bag of potatoes. Holds tension better than BHBR; I could hit better angles with Revolution, but Big Ace gave me the most confidence with my shots and my hitting partners commented that it came at them really heavy.
 
RetroSpin said:
My training partner has a deal with solinco, so we have tried everything they have. We both prefer TB and Diamond Rough over anything else. I rank TB as the gold standard for tweener , PD-type racquets. He likes DR for the control and heavy ball it produces. Not as much spin as TB.

I also really like BHBR17. For the first couple of hours, it is magic.
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I agree. BHBR17 for the first two hours is great, then it becomes unpredictable.

I have a racquet with TB soft 17 in the mail, eager to see how it plays.

I found TB very plasticky and I dont like that feel, then it broke on a mishit after an hour leaving a sour taste in my mouth and I never came back to it,

Can you compare TB with Revolution?
 
Well I sure do like me some potatoes. Gonna try out the big ace micro (mainly because I personally can't do red strings). Thanks for the mini-review!
 
Mareqnyc said:
I agree. BHBR17 for the first two hours is great, then it becomes unpredictable.

I have a racquet with TB soft 17 in the mail, eager to see how it plays.

I found TB very plasticky and I dont like that feel, then it broke on a mishit after an hour leaving a sour taste in my mouth and I never came back to it,

Can you compare TB to Revolution?
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bobombom said:
Well I sure do like me some potatoes. Gonna try out the big ace micro (mainly because I personally can't do red strings). Thanks for the mini-review!
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let me know how the micro works out for you
 
Bhb7 is tb on steroids for plasticy feel. Goes bad for me in about 1/2Hr, and tb has had grommet string breaks with me as well. NO fun to say bye to the time/money over and over again.
 
Mareqnyc said:
On another note Tier 1 sure likes to take their time with shipping their orders.. Smh
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Mareqnyc, my apologies for the delayed shipment. We were in Europe last week and thus could not fulfill orders (as stated in our terms and conditions during checkout). We usually ship within one business day!
 
I wrote a piece about strings for Yandell. Tier one did not give me a discount as I asked for, considering the recommendation I am making, to try it. Oh well. Bought three reels of it anyway! Sucks to pay full price when you are helping.
 
kiteboard said:
I wrote a piece about strings for Yandell. Tier one did not give me a discount as I asked for, considering the recommendation I am making, to try it. Oh well. Bought three reels of it anyway! Sucks to pay full price when you are helping.
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Kiteboard, not sure if I understand your post correctly. Did you contact us for a discount on 3 reels and we denied your request? If this is the case please drop us a quick email referring to this post.
 
bobombom said:
Any updates on any new strings? Looking at how you like Big Ace, have you thought about giving YPTP a go? Heard good things about it.
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Hey, just came back from a 4hr hitting session. Another 2 hrs with Solinco Revolution 18g and 2hrs with Tecnifibre pro red code 18g. Will update the table tomorrow
 
Nice looking fh. I'd like to see your non dom arm stretched out all the way with no bend, dynamically side ways parallel to the base line so that your upper left shoulder is extremely cocked and loaded.
 
kiteboard said:
Nice looking fh. I'd like to see your non dom arm stretched out all the way with no bend, dynamically side ways parallel to the base line so that your upper left shoulder is extremely cocked and loaded.
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I had a coach look into this arm not fully extended. When I stretch it fully I have a tendency to stop and it throws off my spacing/timing. He said there is not much harm if it is just left alone since the stroke is still fluid and effective. I agree it feels good this way.
 
bobombom said:
Any updates on any new strings? Looking at how you like Big Ace, have you thought about giving YPTP a go? Heard good things about it.
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I have the YPTP and YPTPS, I played YTPT (yellow) 2 years ago and liked it a lot but became too powerful quickly in an Babolat APD and I cut it out. I have a long list of strings, will be updating slowly.
 
All the top fh do this, extreme extension, so that their upper chest coils more for the snap back to have a greater kinetic chain and range of motion for full rhs. No matter what the stance, or position you are in, extend the non dom arm dynamically out parallel to the base line, open, closed, neutral, dead run, whatever. Coils you for faster attack.
 
kiteboard said:
All the top fh do this, extreme extension, so that their upper chest coils more for the snap back to have a greater kinetic chain and range of motion for full rhs. No matter what the stance, or position you are in, extend the non dom arm dynamically out parallel to the base line, open, closed, neutral, dead run, whatever. Coils you for faster attack.
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Absolutely agree with this. But if you look at Nadal or Djokovic sometimes they swing both arms back, non dominant slightly bent and not stretched directly over the baseline, but even further back creating even bigger coiling this way?
 
Just added Solinco Revolution 18 as 2nd place on the list. Out of the firm textured poly this one is definitely my favorite.
 
As long as the non dom shoulder is coiled/cocked, to the side, it doesn't' matter. Every top player coils it no matter what the transition.
 
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Ok, got to try the Cyclone tour 18G today, strung at 53 lbs. Somewhat of a Odd experience. Was disappointed with control and power. I was expecting a super powerful poly but not the case, medium powered, less power than VStar from Vokle. I was most disappointed with Feel, felt like plasticky, kind of like paper. But found it to be pretty arm Friendly ,,, much easier than Tourbite soft on the arm and shoulder, which some of you May find surprising.... Very Good on the Spin department, my serves had really good movement on it,,,,however compared to Tourbite soft,,,i acutally thought it had less spin potential. All these are my opinion, of course. After hitting for 3 hours, I thought string actually played little better and had better ball pocketing than fresh off the string machine......

Ok, now here is my dilemma. I really Love the Tourbite soft 18G. but it is much harsher on my shoulder than this cyclone tour. but I am just not crazy about the cyclone tour 18G. so at this point, Should I go ahead and try the Cyclone and see how that plays. Is it even Worth my time considering I really was disappointed with Feel, Power, and control of Cyclone Tour. I was thinking perhaps try the Cyclone 19 G ??? to get some more power and spin off this string ? Would I have better experience than I did with Cyclone tour 18G ?????????
 
Nostradamus said:
Ok, got to try the Cyclone tour 18G today, strung at 53 lbs. Somewhat of a Odd experience. Was disappointed with control and power. I was expecting a super powerful poly but not the case, medium powered, less power than VStar from Vokle. I was most disappointed with Feel, felt like plasticky, kind of like paper. But found it to be pretty arm Friendly ,,, much easier than Tourbite soft on the arm and shoulder, which some of you May find surprising.... Very Good on the Spin department, my serves had really good movement on it,,,,however compared to Tourbite soft,,,i acutally thought it had less spin potential. All these are my opinion, of course. After hitting for 3 hours, I thought string actually played little better and had better ball pocketing than fresh off the string machine......

Ok, now here is my dilemma. I really Love the Tourbite soft 18G. but it is much harsher on my shoulder than this cyclone tour. but I am just not crazy about the cyclone tour 18G. so at this point, Should I go ahead and try the Cyclone and see how that plays. Is it even Worth my time considering I really was disappointed with Feel, Power, and control of Cyclone Tour. I was thinking perhaps try the Cyclone 19 G ??? to get some more power and spin off this string ? Would I have better experience than I did with Cyclone tour 18G ?????????
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I tried all three and I would say keep looking. Regular Cyclone is stiffer less powerful and less comfortable than Tour version. You could try going a few pounds lower on the Tour but if you dislike the feel and control perhaps you just need a different string alltogether. I also wanted to like Cyclone and Tour but was a bit dissapointed.

Try Weiscannon Turbotwist 18g, it might be just what you're looking for
 
Mareqnyc said:
I tried all three and I would say keep looking. Regular Cyclone is stiffer less powerful and less comfortable than Tour version. You could try going a few pounds lower on the Tour but if you dislike the feel and control perhaps you just need a different string alltogether. I also wanted to like Cyclone and Tour but was a bit dissapointed.

Try Weiscannon Turbotwist 18g, it might be just what you're looking for
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Yea, I will look into Turbotwist 18G. I am going to try the cyclone 19G first though. I find that when the Poly goes thinner, it increases the spin and feel exponentially. so I think 19G maybe worth trying. I think that might be why Tourbite soft 18G may have been so good for spin and power, it is 18G but 1.15mm. Also my shoulder issues maybe more due to material makeup of the string not so much stiffness of the string. That might be why I can tolerate Luxilon alu power feel, and RPM blast 18G and Not so much Tourbite soft. Tourbite soft is supposed to be very soft string and yet my shoulder doesn't like it, that maybe due to material makeup.
 
Nostradamus said:
Yea, I will look into Turbotwist 18G. I am going to try the cyclone 19G first though. I find that when the Poly goes thinner, it increases the spin and feel exponentially. so I think 19G maybe worth trying. I think that might be why Tourbite soft 18G may have been so good for spin and power, it is 18G but 1.15mm. Also my shoulder issues maybe more due to material makeup of the string not so much stiffness of the string. That might be why I can tolerate Luxilon alu power feel, and RPM blast 18G and Not so much Tourbite soft. Tourbite soft is supposed to be very soft string and yet my shoulder doesn't like it, that maybe due to material makeup.
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I have sinilar experience with "soft" polys hurting my wrist and not so soft doing no damage. I never had comfort issues with any of the Cyclone line, although they play kinda stiff even with lower tensions.
You might be dissapointed with 19g, its the same string at the end of the day.

I tried Tour Bite Soft in 17g. Great spin and control, feels a bit too boardy to me still
 
Mareqnyc said:
I have sinilar experience with "soft" polys hurting my wrist and not so soft doing no damage. I never had comfort issues with any of the Cyclone line, although they play kinda stiff even with lower tensions.
You might be dissapointed with 19g, its the same string at the end of the day.

I tried Tour Bite Soft in 17g. Great spin and control, feels a bit too boardy to me still
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Yes, tourbite soft is only little bit softer. but 18G was pretty good I thought, very good power for poly and spin was insane. Movement I could get on the serve was amazing, especially on 2nd serves. guys couldn't attack my 2nd serves anymore and one guy even Whiffed at my serve. He DARED a Sabre Attack on my 2nd serve and totally whiffed and he is a very good 4.5 player too.....LOL. but shoulder isssues just really worried me.
so I am going to try the Cyclone 19G and see what happens. If I don't like it I just cut it out. and I will try the Turbotwist as well, 18 G is 1.18 mm.
 
Nostradamus said:
Yes, tourbite soft is only little bit softer. but 18G was pretty good I thought, very good power for poly and spin was insane. Movement I could get on the serve was amazing, especially on 2nd serves. guys couldn't attack my 2nd serves anymore and one guy even Whiffed at my serve. He DARED a Sabre Attack on my 2nd serve and totally whiffed and he is a very good 4.5 player too.....LOL. but shoulder isssues just really worried me.
so I am going to try the Cyclone 19G and see what happens. If I don't like it I just cut it out. and I will try the Turbotwist as well, 18 G is 1.18 mm.
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Let me k ow how they work out for you
 
Mareqnyc said:
I have benefited from this forum a number of times, time to add something from my experience.

I got over 50 sets of polyester strings, I use Gamma x-2 drop weight stringer.

Below you will find a table with the last 10 I used. Let me know if you like the format, I like the column style so you can see al the info on one picture instead of scrolling through essays of info. I will keep adding, adjusting ranks as I keep restringing. It is all obviously very subjective and ranks are based mostly on what works for MY game.

I like to take as much power from a setup as I can without sacrificing control. With that said I prefer 12+ ounce low power sticks and manipulate power with string setup.

If the setup does what I intend to do in terms of spin, direction power and trajectory - it is successful and ranks higher, feel and comfort are also very important.

My background - 5.0 NTRP, hit hard, semi western forehand, one handed backhand.
Usually play singles with juniors and open level players.
Here is a video of me hitting forehands just to give you an idea how these things are tested (plus point play of course) :

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when are you going to try the fw/x1 hybrid?
 
Nostradamus said:
Yes, tourbite soft is only little bit softer. but 18G was pretty good I thought, very good power for poly and spin was insane. Movement I could get on the serve was amazing, especially on 2nd serves. guys couldn't attack my 2nd serves anymore and one guy even Whiffed at my serve. He DARED a Sabre Attack on my 2nd serve and totally whiffed and he is a very good 4.5 player too.....LOL. but shoulder isssues just really worried me.
so I am going to try the Cyclone 19G and see what happens. If I don't like it I just cut it out. and I will try the Turbotwist as well, 18 G is 1.18 mm.
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Comfort seems to be one of your priorities, have you tried to hybrid any of your favorite spin strings with a softer multi or synthetic cross?
 
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