My serve. 100 + MPH with video and radar

Drakulie's serve is definitely over 100 MPH. Look where the ball hits the fence, almost at half the height!

And to those of you who say yours is faster, it may just LOOK faster to you because you are hitting it.
 
drakulie said:
Here are some videos of me serving over 100 mph.

Some information before we begin:

Racquet : PS 85
String: Ashaway Kevlar Crossfire II , 16 gauge
Tension: 70 lbs.
Tennis Balls: regular Wilson/Penn balls 1-3 weeks old pulled out of my bag.
Shoe: Oscillates, LOL
Video Camera: Kodak 30 fps
Radar Gun: speed track II.

The back fence is a little over 21 feet from the baseline.

Here are two serves I took as soon as I got the radar gun. It was dark out but I just could not wait to play with my new toy. One is 103 MPH, and the second is 107 MPH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2SC9Pmp-V8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvKjCsXQggc

Lastly, not sure if you could tell but I was unable to jump and explode into the ball as the arch on my left foot is bruised. As a result, I don't leave the ground and land inside the court as it was too painful.


Enjoy!
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I can't see anything!
 
Not much to see....
Nice medium fast swing, excellent pronation, some spin for control, should equal over 100 but less than 110.
 
drakulie said:
Some more:

On these two watch the ball carefully "take-off" immediately after the bounce. Try to watch it in "full screen".

105 MPH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYjOyfMicR0

108 MPH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDNhhzaj3wc

Here is an action shot of the 108 MPH serve:
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173 km/h???? Hahaha ya dreamin. Think he needs to be introduced to the concept of calibration.

Here's an 144.5 km/h delivery by Brett Lee followed by another at 149 km/h.

Tell me which looks quicker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QJYubz6l4
 
I doubt you're comparing cricket to tennis.
Top baseball pitcher's just top 100mph, or is that something like 166kph? I'm American, and old, was never taught the metric system.
100mph flat serves get you to 4.0 levels, and get crushed after that, if that's all you can serve.
 
I've been across the net from Drakulie on hot, humid Nashvegas evening......conditions where the balls fuzz quickly and dehydration is a real concern. He serves every bit of 108mph. Maybe more. Best, BHBH
 
LeeD said:
I doubt you're comparing cricket to tennis.
Top baseball pitcher's just top 100mph, or is that something like 166kph? I'm American, and old, was never taught the metric system.
100mph flat serves get you to 4.0 levels, and get crushed after that, if that's all you can serve.
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You don't need 100mph serves to get to 4.0. You don't need 100mph serves even at 4.5.

I was in a USTA tournament not three weeks ago. One of the top 4.5s in the area was there playing and the guy doesn't hit a serve over 90mph. However, he places his serves and mixes it up so well that it is almost impossible to get a read on him. He got tons of free points off his serve.

It isn't speed as much as controlling placement, changing pace, and changing spins.
 
mightyrick said:
You don't need 100mph serves to get to 4.0. You don't need 100mph serves even at 4.5.

I was in a USTA tournament not three weeks ago. One of the top 4.5s in the area was there playing and the guy doesn't hit a serve over 90mph. However, he places his serves and mixes it up so well that it is almost impossible to get a read on him. He got tons of free points off his serve.

It isn't speed as much as controlling placement, changing pace, and changing spins.
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There is a 4.5 in Colorado (#4 in the state) who hits 75mph spin serves all the time with great variation. He has an amazing grundstroke game though, the guy does not miss
 
this thread is one of my favourites..

here is a poster with a decent rec serve who is prepared to put it out there, with a radar gun and state the easily verifiable speed..

you can do it with an app from the video anyway and it's clearly correct.

and yet, there are almost 40 pages of idiotic comments saying how 'it's not that fast and I know because I play in the ALTA 4.0 league where everyone serves at 120 and it's nowhere near as good as that'

I love this place :)
 
mightyrick said:
You don't need 100mph serves to get to 4.0. You don't need 100mph serves even at 4.5.
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He knows that. He is just trying to put everyone down by casually suggesting that 4.0s serve at 100 mph, so that he can turn around and say, sorry, I did not realize you guys serve so slow. It is his method of bait and trap.
 
sureshs said:
He knows that. He is just trying to put everyone down by casually suggesting that 4.0s serve at 100 mph, so that he can turn around and say, sorry, I did not realize you guys serve so slow. It is his method of bait and trap.
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Ha ha. So true. LeeD is just a big bragging liar.
 
You do the math.
At 64, can still serve around 100 after all the injuries. Just today, didn't complete a shave with my left hand, because the shoulder couldn't hold up more than 4 minutes.
Now, compute that back to 27. What is 30% added to 100mph?
 
LeeD said:
You do the math.
At 64, can still serve around 100 after all the injuries. Just today, didn't complete a shave with my left hand, because the shoulder couldn't hold up more than 4 minutes.
Now, compute that back to 27. What is 30% added to 100mph?
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Try 65mph. Lmao. Liar!
 
Yes, our 65 mph serves go out wide to the service/sideline intersect, and bounce around 36" high at the backfence, as indicated by the 48" tripod under Alex's camera.
Good point, Arche3.
 
LeeD said:
Yes, our 65 mph serves go out wide to the service/sideline intersect, and bounce around 36" high at the backfence, as indicated by the 48" tripod under Alex's camera.
Good point, Arche3.
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You can't tell where it bounces from that video you fool. Lol. Someone please CSI that video for leeD. Maybe the FBI will do it.
 
I was there.
Alex asked how high to set the camera. I said full height, and since it was a 48" tripod, I guessed the camera was around that height.
Bounce was NOT waist high like yours. Maybe mid to upper thigh high.
 
LeeD said:
I was there.
Alex asked how high to set the camera. I said full height, and since it was a 48" tripod, I guessed the camera was around that height.
Bounce was NOT waist high like yours. Maybe mid to upper thigh high.
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You watched carefully after you served exactly where the ball hit from the other side of the court? Lmao. You have no idea where it landed. On video you can't see where it hit. Im supposed to trust your recollection? It is a proven fact your a liar in here. Why should I take your word you have exact measurements of where it landed? It was maybe 65mph. Probably slower.
 
Particular aggressive today?
You can say whatever you want.
I entered the fast serve contest at GoldenGateway tennis center in 1978, and 4 out of 7 of my serves actually went in, for some reason, the fastest 129.4, equal to LowellBarnhardt's. I got second because his other serves that went in were faster than mine. GGTC was still operating maybe 3 years ago, but possibly, now, I don't know.
I got to practice with the Mareen because I had a lefty serve that was decent, and the A men's players would occasionally ask me to hit with them, if I'd serve a few also.
Could one reason I got asked to hit with Mareen was because she was getting ready to play Rollie, and weekly hitting partner of mine, and also a lefty?
Marcie, we met at Dupont courts, on the day I mentioned.
I mentioned I never really hit singles with Marna nor Marisa, but lots of doubles sets.
 
LeeD said:
Particular aggressive today?
You can say whatever you want.
I entered the fast serve contest at GoldenGateway tennis center in 1978, and 4 out of 7 of my serves actually went in, for some reason, the fastest 129.4, equal to LowellBarnhardt's. I got second because his other serves that went in were faster than mine. GGTC was still operating maybe 3 years ago, but possibly, now, I don't know.
I got to practice with the Mareen because I had a lefty serve that was decent, and the A men's players would occasionally ask me to hit with them, if I'd serve a few also.
Could one reason I got asked to hit with Mareen was because she was getting ready to play Rollie, and weekly hitting partner of mine, and also a lefty?
Marcie, we met at Dupont courts, on the day I mentioned.
I mentioned I never really hit singles with Marna nor Marisa, but lots of doubles sets.
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Just keeping you honest.
 
Honest.
I've actually been trying to remember both the first and last names of the guys I played in the Q's. I got 4 first names, but no last names. I need the last names, so I can type them for you. First themselves names mean nothing.
One possible problem could be, by summer of '78, I had started racing motocross, bought an old '77 YZ off JPMorgan, and a used '78YZ off DuaneJoice, both Expert motocross riders, and either I was more into motocross, or more likely, I was concentrating more on bikes than tennis by then.
 
Timbo's hopeless slice said:
this thread is one of my favourites..

here is a poster with a decent rec serve who is prepared to put it out there, with a radar gun and state the easily verifiable speed..

you can do it with an app from the video anyway and it's clearly correct.

and yet, there are almost 40 pages of idiotic comments saying how 'it's not that fast and I know because I play in the ALTA 4.0 league where everyone serves at 120 and it's nowhere near as good as that'

I love this place :)
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So true.

Good thread though.
 
Timbo's hopeless slice said:
this thread is one of my favourites..

here is a poster with a decent rec serve who is prepared to put it out there, with a radar gun and state the easily verifiable speed..

you can do it with an app from the video anyway and it's clearly correct.

and yet, there are almost 40 pages of idiotic comments saying how 'it's not that fast and I know because I play in the ALTA 4.0 league where everyone serves at 120 and it's nowhere near as good as that'

I love this place :)
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I am reminded of the tennis 'experts' of TTW who deemed TonLars a '4.0' after watching his videos and even insisted I was exaggerating his skill set after I hit with him during a visit to Minneapolis a few years back!! I stated TonLars had 6.0-6.5 skills from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE on court with him, only to have some posters continue insisting he was barely mid-upper rec level, and not as strong as say, ALTA 4.5's. A couple of years later Tony made his run at the USO Qualifying tournament, where I believe he lost in the National semis to Blake Strode (who was coached by a friend of a friend, so that was odd). Anywho..............yea. ;) BHBH
 
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In all seriousness though, nice serve - 107 on the speedtrac is more like 113-5 on pro radar.
I remember that one time, the cheap hack thrill I got from seeing 110 light up, and my shoulder went crazy...good times
 
BounceHitBounceHit said:
I am reminded of the tennis 'experts' of TTW who deemed TonLars a '4.0' after watching his videos and even insisted I was exaggerating his skill set after I hit with him during a visit to Minneapolis a few years back!! I stated TonLars had 6.0-6.5 skills from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE on court with him, only to have some posters continue insisting he was barely mid-upper rec level, and not as strong as say, ALTA 4.5's. A couple of years later Tony made his run at the USO Qualifying tournament, where I believe he lost in the National semis to Blake Strode (who was coached by a friend of a friend, so that was odd). Anywho..............yea. ;) BHBH
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Who were the posters that thought tonlars was a 4.0? Lol.
 
arche3 said:
Who were the posters that thought tonlars was a 4.0? Lol.
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If you visit the thread "My Strokes 5.5 if interested" started by Tony a few years back you can find the various comments. :) One of my favorites was: "If THAT'S 5.5, there must be a LOT of 5.5's out there" or something to that effect. :shock::oops:

Trust me fellas, there are not too many TonLars out there! The guy DOES NOT MISS and hits it a TON. :)

Best,

BHBH
 
LeeD said:
Honest.
I've actually been trying to remember both the first and last names of the guys I played in the Q's. I got 4 first names, but no last names. I need the last names, so I can type them for you. First themselves names mean nothing.
One possible problem could be, by summer of '78, I had started racing motocross, bought an old '77 YZ off JPMorgan, and a used '78YZ off DuaneJoice, both Expert motocross riders, and either I was more into motocross, or more likely, I was concentrating more on bikes than tennis by then.
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Honest.
We don't care about their names. Cheers. :)
 
Because when I post actual names, there is a possibility that someone can look it up, or run into one of those players.
Like, I said I strung tennis racket's for the pros at the TransAm..... if you care, you can check who ran the stringing booth, FTC sports, and who the two stringers were. PrimoCarnera and LeeD. If you so happen to run into MikeCahill, DickStockton, or RaulRameriz, and if they remember, they can tell you they talked to a LeeD (they would remember an Asian stringer at a tiny booth where lots of player's hung out and LeeD strung all the rackets, because Primo was out on courtside watching the tennis.
 
Oh, that's why I have been trying to get in a hit with Esquee, DarrinBaker, SayChi, and almost EVERY guy from the SanFranciscoBayArea who posts here.
If you won't believe me, and you won't believe RobFl or Shroud, you might believe if more guys vouched for some of my claims.
 
LeeD said:
Because when I post actual names, there is a possibility that someone can look it up, or run into one of those players.
Like, I said I strung tennis racket's for the pros at the TransAm..... if you care, you can check who ran the stringing booth, FTC sports, and who the two stringers were. PrimoCarnera and LeeD. If you so happen to run into MikeCahill, DickStockton, or RaulRameriz, and if they remember, they can tell you they talked to a LeeD (they would remember an Asian stringer at a tiny booth where lots of player's hung out and LeeD strung all the rackets, because Primo was out on courtside watching the tennis.
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Naming names from decades ago proves nothing about your tennis skills. And there is no way to check.
Who cares you were a stringer?
Fact is you lied about your tennis achievements. Do I need to go find them and post it here? Just admit you made up stuff and move on.
You don't need to pepper your posts here with lies and then get upset and try to defend it.
 
I'm not sure it's possible to look up 1978 and '79 Q's for the TransAmericaTourney, as I didn't win my 3rd match either time, and computers weren't mainstream back then. Maybe someone like NorCal tournament director Bill Small would remember, or remember I entered a dozen A/Open tourneys as a B player.
Would you bother to ask an A/Open player by the name of GregShepard, still active currently in the men's 60's, in NorCal USTA? He asked me to hit serves to him, and we practiced around 5 times until I failed to show due to the surf being big, and I was mentioned by name in a NewYorker mag article about big wave surfing.
That is why I mention names. Let's say.....if DarrinBaker would hit with me. What if he said I was a total fake, a 3.0 player. Would you believe him? What if he says, I have 5.0 strokes, would you believe him?
You need names for verification. I"m providing names.
Contact MikeHolmgren, he might remember.
 
LeeD said:
I'm not sure it's possible to look up 1978 and '79 Q's for the TransAmericaTourney, as I didn't win my 3rd match either time, and computers weren't mainstream back then. Maybe someone like NorCal tournament director Bill Small would remember, or remember I entered a dozen A/Open tourneys as a B player.
Would you bother to ask an A/Open player by the name of GregShepard, still active currently in the men's 60's, in NorCal USTA? He asked me to hit serves to him, and we practiced around 5 times until I failed to show due to the surf being big, and I was mentioned by name in a NewYorker mag article about big wave surfing.
That is why I mention names. Let's say.....if DarrinBaker would hit with me. What if he said I was a total fake, a 3.0 player. Would you believe him? What if he says, I have 5.0 strokes, would you believe him?
You need names for verification. I"m providing names.
Contact MikeHolmgren, he might remember.
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I'm on that right now. Mike and I go way back. I advised him not to take the Browns job, and he wishes he listened to me. True story. You can contact Rob Chudzinski or Brandon Weeden to verify.
 
LeeD said:
I'm not sure it's possible to look up 1978 and '79 Q's for the TransAmericaTourney, as I didn't win my 3rd match either time, and computers weren't mainstream back then. Maybe someone like NorCal tournament director Bill Small would remember, or remember I entered a dozen A/Open tourneys as a B player.
Would you bother to ask an A/Open player by the name of GregShepard, still active currently in the men's 60's, in NorCal USTA? He asked me to hit serves to him, and we practiced around 5 times until I failed to show due to the surf being big, and I was mentioned by name in a NewYorker mag article about big wave surfing.
That is why I mention names. Let's say.....if DarrinBaker would hit with me. What if he said I was a total fake, a 3.0 player. Would you believe him? What if he says, I have 5.0 strokes, would you believe him?
You need names for verification. I"m providing names.
Contact MikeHolmgren, he might remember.
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You know nobody is going to ask anyonem. And nobody will remember you because you were Not a great player. Not even bottom pro. Or top college. Who will know you?
And so what if you were in ny mag about surfing? Your not lar hamilton. How does that even equate to tennis? I am named in a lot of places outside of tennis for my work. Does that make my tennis better? No. Stop lying and ill stop harassing you about it.
 
Topspin shot is working on contacting MikeHolmgren.
And if you know GilHaskell, the O line coach that went with Mike to GB and some other teams besides Seattle, and VicRowen also.
 
LeeD said:
Topspin shot is working on contacting MikeHolmgren.
And if you know GilHaskell, the O line coach that went with Mike to GB and some other teams besides Seattle, and VicRowen also.
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Im stabbing my eyes out for reading your posts. Thanks.
 
At least WAIT until TopspinShot comes back on here. THEN you can stab out your eyes.
I wonder also, will Mike remember his senior year TE, who missed all 8 regular season games (from fib rebreak), and started the first playoff game, not getting targeted at all.
I also alternated in at OLB, pass rusher, defensive string side.
 
Mike and Gil graduated before my senior year at Lincoln.
PaulOlliphant was the starting QB, RonPointexter the FB when I was a senior.
Vic Rowen and I alternated at TE, JeffHoward still the right wideout.
 
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