my strokes (5.5) if interested

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
i think he wrote
me ru chayn to okutu ta no de. which i forget its meaning
The fonts come out looking funny on the forum, but those are actually small “ゃ” and small “っ”, so it’s “meeru chanto okutta no de”, meaning that Tony might be a self-rated 5.5 in Minnesota where there aren’t many good players, but would be challenged plenty in a 4.5 league in NY, and in NorCal would be a strong 4.0 at best.
 

HunterST

Hall of Fame
Hey Tony, Who's the best guy you've ever played??

Not so much best credentials or the most well known guy, but who is a guy that you thought "Holy crap, this guy can PLAY!" ??
 
The fonts come out looking funny on the forum, but those are actually small “ゃ” and small “っ”, so it’s “meeru chanto okutta no de”, meaning that Tony might be a self-rated 5.5 in Minnesota where there aren’t many good players, but would be challenged plenty in a 4.5 league in NY, and in NorCal would be a strong 4.0 at best.
LOL...........
 

TonLars

Professional
Hey Tony, Who's the best guy you've ever played??

Not so much best credentials or the most well known guy, but who is a guy that you thought "Holy crap, this guy can PLAY!" ??
Hard to say, can I give you a list of candidates? Alex Clayton, Andres Osorio, Avery Ticer and Sam Fletcher are probably the best players Ive played in my mind, and certainly have big credentials. When I was 13 I played Sukhwa Young and thought he was bomb, but I was pretty inexperienced at that point. Ive played lots of good players besides that though, but one of the first 4 are my pick. It would be fun to make a top 5 list also for things such as best forehand, serve, fastest, biggest jerks, etc. Would be interesting to see what comes up.
 

NLBwell

Legend
The fonts come out looking funny on the forum, but those are actually small “ゃ” and small “っ”, so it’s “meeru chanto okutta no de”, meaning that Tony might be a self-rated 5.5 in Minnesota where there aren’t many good players, but would be challenged plenty in a 4.5 league in NY, and in NorCal would be a strong 4.0 at best.
People are so funny.
 

kevhen

Hall of Fame
I have seen Tony play and he is 5.5, damn fast, very steady, good defense, and can hit winners when he has time. I watched him play a guy who was serving around 120mph. He is a very hard working player. I have seen other 5.5 and 6.0 players at my university. I was rated 4.5 in US (now rated ITN 5 in Australia where I win most of my matches). Tony would be ITN 4 or even maybe 3 in Australia. ITN 4 is like 5.0. Just play Tony and you will know what it takes to win a point against him. I had a hard enough time against his dad.
 

adlis

Professional
Hard to say, can I give you a list of candidates? Alex Clayton, Andres Osorio, Avery Ticer and Sam Fletcher are probably the best players Ive played in my mind, and certainly have big credentials. When I was 13 I played Sukhwa Young and thought he was bomb, but I was pretty inexperienced at that point. Ive played lots of good players besides that though, but one of the first 4 are my pick. It would be fun to make a top 5 list also for things such as best forehand, serve, fastest, biggest jerks, etc. Would be interesting to see what comes up.

Are you high? You didn't mention Yuichi ITO who is currently WR 336









sobad san! doko ni iru no?! anata ni mada mitai nee
weeaboo aleart!!. We have a Wapanese wannabe on the loose.







I will attempt to put this derailed thread back on topic





Tony Larson your last ITF win <6-1 6-2 against a 39 year old 4.5 who started tennis aged 24> was a year ago .
you should stop craving attention from 14 year old keyboard warriors and try to prove your so-called 5.5 ability on the futures circuit

03 May / 09 May 10 USA F11 FUTURES - ORANGE PARK, FL
10 May / 16 May 10 USA F12 FUTURES - TAMPA, FL
07 Jun / 13 Jun 10 USA F13 FUTURES - LOOMIS, CA
14 Jun / 20 Jun 10 USA F14 FUTURES - DAVIS, CA
21 Jun / 27 Jun 10 USA F15 FUTURES - CHICO, CA
28 Jun / 04 Jul 10 USA F16 FUTURES - ROCHESTER, NY
05 Jul / 11 Jul 10 USA F17 FUTURES - PITTSBURGH, PA
12 Jul / 18 Jul 10 USA F18 FUTURES - PEORIA, IL
19 Jul / 25 Jul 10 USA F19 FUTURES - JOPLIN, MO
26 Jul / 01 Aug 10 USA F20 FUTURES - GODFREY, IL
 
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TonLars

Professional
Are you high? You didn't mention Yuichi ITO who is currently WR 336

Tony Larson your last ITF win <6-1 6-2 against a 39 year old 4.5 who started tennis aged 24> was a year ago .
you should stop craving attention from 14 year old keyboard warriors and try to prove your so-called 5.5 ability on the futures circuit

03 May / 09 May 10 USA F11 FUTURES - ORANGE PARK, FL
10 May / 16 May 10 USA F12 FUTURES - TAMPA, FL
07 Jun / 13 Jun 10 USA F13 FUTURES - LOOMIS, CA
14 Jun / 20 Jun 10 USA F14 FUTURES - DAVIS, CA
21 Jun / 27 Jun 10 USA F15 FUTURES - CHICO, CA
28 Jun / 04 Jul 10 USA F16 FUTURES - ROCHESTER, NY
05 Jul / 11 Jul 10 USA F17 FUTURES - PITTSBURGH, PA
12 Jul / 18 Jul 10 USA F18 FUTURES - PEORIA, IL
19 Jul / 25 Jul 10 USA F19 FUTURES - JOPLIN, MO
26 Jul / 01 Aug 10 USA F20 FUTURES - GODFREY, IL
Hello Adlis, welcome back to trolling this thread.
Youre right Yuichi Ito was pretty good. I played him back in about 2005 or so and I lost about 7-5 6-2. Ive improved alot since then and he probably has to. I didnt think he was amazing back then, and most of the points he earned were playing in weaker draws rather than the US, but again he has probably improved alot like I have.

The player you listed where I only won 6-1 6-2 was indeed embarassing for me. I played horrible in that tournament, but still had my chances against Ashwin Kumar losing in a 2nd set breaker, and he is a fairly good player and ranked on the tour. Coming into that tournament I hadnt played outdoor tennis for about 5 months and I felt the conditions were tough with alot of wind. But a win is a win, doesnt really matter that I lost a couple games. Helped a couple D3 #1 players practice today and they each won 1 game with a good service hold and so its not easy to beat anyone 6-0.

I would love to play more futures, but it would basically just be for fun, good training, and a possibility of getting an atp point. They dont pay out good money like the open tournaments, which is why I enjoy those more. Also, there arent any really near me as you can see. However, I am actually planning to play the Godfrey tournament in Illinois end of July. Will you be there? I would enjoy meeting you and seeing if you are actually this immature in person. Anyways, Im not craving any attention, Ive met some friends on this board, and posting my results and videos is a way of not only just giving an update to those who care, but charting my progress over the years.
 
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bad_call

Legend
Tony - would be cheering for you if you found your way into an ITF...cheering from the neighboring court if i had my druthers. HAHA!! :)

btw - u don't need that big a serve on clay...just saying.
 

ManuGinobili

Hall of Fame
Are you high? You didn't mention Yuichi ITO who is currently WR 336

I will attempt to put this derailed thread back on topic

Tony Larson your last ITF win <6-1 6-2 against a 39 year old 4.5 who started tennis aged 24> was a year ago .
you should stop craving attention from 14 year old keyboard warriors and try to prove your so-called 5.5 ability on the futures circuit
Why such hate? If Tony had put up a youtube of you on the receiving end of a wedgie then I would understand, but geez, it's just a forum... in the spirit of the holiday, chill the heck out.
 

HunterST

Hall of Fame
Why such hate? If Tony had put up a youtube of you on the receiving end of a wedgie then I would understand, but geez, it's just a forum... in the spirit of the holiday, chill the heck out.
He's a troll, man. He knows Tony is legit and he knows saying he isn't stirs everyone up. Lets not feed him.
 

Fedace

Banned
Hard to say, can I give you a list of candidates? Alex Clayton, Andres Osorio, Avery Ticer and Sam Fletcher are probably the best players Ive played in my mind, and certainly have big credentials. When I was 13 I played Sukhwa Young and thought he was bomb, but I was pretty inexperienced at that point. Ive played lots of good players besides that though, but one of the first 4 are my pick. It would be fun to make a top 5 list also for things such as best forehand, serve, fastest, biggest jerks, etc. Would be interesting to see what comes up.
so what do you think about Alex's pro future ? Can he get to top 50 in ATP tour ?
 

TonLars

Professional
tony have not seen email I sent u about mb open?>
Looks like ill be able to come now, wasnt easy though. Looking forward to it.
so what do you think about Alex's pro future ? Can he get to top 50 in ATP tour ?
Hard to say Fedace, I agree with you that he has loads of talent and potential, but he definitely has alot of work to do. Consistency is the key for him, it seems he is really up and down and from when Ive played him I think he needs to be a little more patient, but when he is on he can literally beat about anyone probably. Maybe his heart isnt into it any more but he is still an excellent player.


Ive got a tournament this weekend, USPTA national indoor tournament. Small draw but semis Ive got a guy who has a 2-0 record on me, although that was from several years ago. Ive improved alot and should have a good shot but he is still dangerous. Finals against a D3 fall national champion and last summer we split our 2 matches.
http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournaments/TournamentHome/Tournament.aspx?T=87125
 

Urza187

New User
Looks like ill be able to come now, wasnt easy though. Looking forward to it.


Hard to say Fedace, I agree with you that he has loads of talent and potential, but he definitely has alot of work to do. Consistency is the key for him, it seems he is really up and down and from when Ive played him I think he needs to be a little more patient, but when he is on he can literally beat about anyone probably. Maybe his heart isnt into it any more but he is still an excellent player.


Ive got a tournament this weekend, USPTA national indoor tournament. Small draw but semis Ive got a guy who has a 2-0 record on me, although that was from several years ago. Ive improved alot and should have a good shot but he is still dangerous. Finals against a D3 fall national champion and last summer we split our 2 matches.
http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournaments/TournamentHome/Tournament.aspx?T=87125
I'm surprised you've lost to John Kauss to be honest. I know I'm not the greatest player, but I've seen Kauss play, and I've seen the type of players you've beaten decisively before along with seeing you play personally. He was a former #1 Gustavus player, but IMO he isn't as good as prior Gustavus #1's that you've beaten. Good luck, and hopefully I'll see you in Waterloo!
 
Looks like ill be able to come now, wasnt easy though. Looking forward to it.


Hard to say Fedace, I agree with you that he has loads of talent and potential, but he definitely has alot of work to do. Consistency is the key for him, it seems he is really up and down and from when Ive played him I think he needs to be a little more patient, but when he is on he can literally beat about anyone probably. Maybe his heart isnt into it any more but he is still an excellent player.


Ive got a tournament this weekend, USPTA national indoor tournament. Small draw but semis Ive got a guy who has a 2-0 record on me, although that was from several years ago. Ive improved alot and should have a good shot but he is still dangerous. Finals against a D3 fall national champion and last summer we split our 2 matches.
http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournaments/TournamentHome/Tournament.aspx?T=87125
Good luck Tony! :) BHBH
 

TonLars

Professional
I'm surprised you've lost to John Kauss to be honest. I know I'm not the greatest player, but I've seen Kauss play, and I've seen the type of players you've beaten decisively before along with seeing you play personally. He was a former #1 Gustavus player, but IMO he isn't as good as prior Gustavus #1's that you've beaten. Good luck, and hopefully I'll see you in Waterloo!
Thanks, I didnt play the best when I lost, but trust me the guy is a very good player. Im not sure when you last saw him play; he doesnt hit big but he is really solid and doesnt give you anything. Like I said he won the national D3 singles championship in the fall and besides Butorac and Whipple I cant think of anyone else that has done that from Gustavus. Looking forward to Waterloo, be sure to introduce yourself!
 

TonLars

Professional
So what NTRP where you at the time of this match, supposedly?
Supposedly? Computer rated 5.0 so I could play league, but even 3 years ago I was a 5.5 level Id say. Ive improved a bit since then but would still say solid to strong 5.5.

Singles and doubles final tomorrow for USPTA tournament, should be fun
 

HunterST

Hall of Fame
Supposedly? Computer rated 5.0 so I could play league, but even 3 years ago I was a 5.5 level Id say. Ive improved a bit since then but would still say solid to strong 5.5.

Singles and doubles final tomorrow for USPTA tournament, should be fun
So you get 5,000 dollars if you win the final? haha
 

Cross-court

Rookie
Supposedly?
Well I didn't mean it offensively, just asking what your ranking was at that time.

Computer rated 5.0 so I could play league, but even 3 years ago I was a 5.5 level Id say. Ive improved a bit since then but would still say solid to strong 5.5.

Singles and doubles final tomorrow for USPTA tournament, should be fun
For real? You were a computer rated 5.0-5.5 in that match?
 

ProgressoR

Hall of Fame
Supposedly? Computer rated 5.0 so I could play league, but even 3 years ago I was a 5.5 level Id say. Ive improved a bit since then but would still say solid to strong 5.5.

Singles and doubles final tomorrow for USPTA tournament, should be fun
I was watching that vid and also wondering what your level was, but probably in not as aggressive a way as cross court.

So that is how a 5.0 looks on vid, good to know (though you say you were prob at 5.5 level, got that).

I was watching some local club players playing, who are about 4.0 level perhaps pushing 4.5, and from the outside, it didnt look great, but on court playing them, its tough. So judging on that, Tony looks clearly a lot lot better than that on court, so in person Tony would be pretty awesome, defo 6-0 me.

Surprising how watching someone on vid (or even in person) gives the impression of a lower standard than standing on the court and facing them.

When I see someone good on vid or in person, i think wouldnt it be great if i could improve to the level to hang with that guy.

Tony to give me an idea, if you can be bothered, if you played say someone barely in the top 200 atp, how would the match likely turn out?

Good luck in the finals Tony, keep us posted.
 

SlapShot

Hall of Fame
Nice work in the final Tony - looks like you handled John. Was he moving well after his grind-fest yesterday? That was a fun match to watch.
 
I was watching that vid and also wondering what your level was, but probably in not as aggressive a way as cross court.

So that is how a 5.0 looks on vid, good to know (though you say you were prob at 5.5 level, got that).

I was watching some local club players playing, who are about 4.0 level perhaps pushing 4.5, and from the outside, it didnt look great, but on court playing them, its tough. So judging on that, Tony looks clearly a lot lot better than that on court, so in person Tony would be pretty awesome, defo 6-0 me.

Surprising how watching someone on vid (or even in person) gives the impression of a lower standard than standing on the court and facing them.

When I see someone good on vid or in person, i think wouldnt it be great if i could improve to the level to hang with that guy.

Tony to give me an idea, if you can be bothered, if you played say someone barely in the top 200 atp, how would the match likely turn out?

Good luck in the finals Tony, keep us posted.
As you may know, Tony was 'bumped' to 5.5 after beating up on the local 5.0's for a year. :) I've been on the court with him, as well as many other top level DI players and even a few former ATP and WTA pros over the years, and can tell you he is a very, VERY good player. 5.5 at least. I'd say more in keeping with 6.0, and with the potential for even better standards.

Someone will likely feel the need to refute my statements about Tony. I can only assume this is primarily driven by insecurity on their part, so please ignore. :)

Best,

BHBH
 

Ptrac

Rookie
Tony to give me an idea, if you can be bothered, if you played say someone barely in the top 200 atp, how would the match likely turn out?
Nothing to take away from Tony, but he would most likely get crushed. Top D1 players have a tough time getting into the top 200 in the ATP. Jesse Levine was a stud in college and is struggling to get into the top 100.
 

SlapShot

Hall of Fame
As you may know, Tony was 'bumped' to 5.5 after beating up on the local 5.0's for a year. :) I've been on the court with him, as well as many other top level DI players and even a few former ATP and WTA pros over the years, and can tell you he is a very, VERY good player. 5.5 at least. I'd say more in keeping with 6.0, and with the potential for even better standards.

Someone will likely feel the need to refute my statements about Tony. I can only assume this is primarily driven by insecurity on their part, so please ignore. :)

Best,

BHBH
Dr. - are you planning to come up to MN anytime soon? If so, we should have a hit-around at Tony's home court - I love nothing more than having my best shots get returned with interest on a regular basis. ;)
 

ProgressoR

Hall of Fame
Nothing to take away from Tony, but he would most likely get crushed. Top D1 players have a tough time getting into the top 200 in the ATP. Jesse Levine was a stud in college and is struggling to get into the top 100.
Fair enough. But a 3.5 would also get crushed even more. Would be good to know what kind of game it would be with Tony. Would it be bagels? if so what would rallies be like? competitive for a few shots? am curious, that's all.

And its not specifically Tony vs the pro I am after, its (a guy at Tony's level) vs a pro that is the interesting comparison
 
Dr. - are you planning to come up to MN anytime soon? If so, we should have a hit-around at Tony's home court - I love nothing more than having my best shots get returned with interest on a regular basis. ;)
Greetings!

I hope to be there at least once this summer, but the trip is not set in stone at this point. I will be sure to contact both you and Tony well in advance of the date(s). I assume you've had the pleasure of a hit with Tony too, yes? ;)

Best,

BHBH
 
Fair enough. But a 3.5 would also get crushed even more. Would be good to know what kind of game it would be with Tony. Would it be bagels? if so what would rallies be like? competitive for a few shots? am curious, that's all.

And its not specifically Tony vs the pro I am after, its (a guy at Tony's level) vs a pro that is the interesting comparison
I think Tony would hold his own against a top 200 pro. A lot of the equation has to do with the EXPERIENCE of playing over time at that lofty level. I wouldn't predict Tony would WIN, but also wouldn't expect bagels or breadsticks. ;) BHBH
 

SlapShot

Hall of Fame
Greetings!

I hope to be there at least once this summer, but the trip is not set in stone at this point. I will be sure to contact both you and Tony well in advance of the date(s). I assume you've had the pleasure of a hit with Tony too, yes? ;)

Best,

BHBH
Oh yes, Tony and I have hit quite a bit in the last 2 years. He's likely a big part of the reason that I've progressed as I have over that time.

I went from a hard hitting but very erratic 3.5 to a hard hitting and slightly less erratic 4.0 on the verge of 4.5.

I was telling Tony last week that I now know what I need to do in a point, and it's a process of executing it, and that's due to hitting with him and learning his patterns.
 

Lazerus

New User
Oh yes, Tony and I have hit quite a bit in the last 2 years. He's likely a big part of the reason that I've progressed as I have over that time.

I went from a hard hitting but very erratic 3.5 to a hard hitting and slightly less erratic 4.0 on the verge of 4.5.

I was telling Tony last week that I now know what I need to do in a point, and it's a process of executing it, and that's due to hitting with him and learning his patterns.
You should write a book on how Tony changed your life.

I would buy it.
 

SlapShot

Hall of Fame
You should write a book on how Tony changed your life.

I would buy it.
Oh, he hasn't changed my life. I'm still the same a-hole I was before I met him, I just happen to be a better tennis player.

I may be an ass like Agassi, but I don't have nearly as much fun as he has had.
 

bad_call

Legend
I think Tony would hold his own against a top 200 pro. A lot of the equation has to do with the EXPERIENCE of playing over time at that lofty level. I wouldn't predict Tony would WIN, but also wouldn't expect bagels or breadsticks. ;) BHBH
reads like Tony vs atp ~200 match up!!! BHBH to be tourney director. will it be clay or hard court?

btw - u did see the Monte Carlo final?....
 

TonLars

Professional
Nice work in the final Tony - looks like you handled John. Was he moving well after his grind-fest yesterday? That was a fun match to watch.
Nothing to take away from Tony, but he would most likely get crushed. Top D1 players have a tough time getting into the top 200 in the ATP. Jesse Levine was a stud in college and is struggling to get into the top 100.
Congrats on the win Tony. BHBH
Thanks guys! Overall played well today, and I actually felt like I was serving well and harder the whole tournament than I have been, so the practice has helped. In doubles I was returning really well which helps since Im not as experienced or quite as good at net play. John played well and very solid and won the grind fest with the #2 seed but I was able to over-power him a little on the groundstrokes in the final, but he had a great tournament. Obviously if I played a top 200 player I would get beat handily but if I was feeling and hitting at my best I would have a good chance to win some games. Looking forward to seeing you this summer BHBH.
 
reads like Tony vs atp ~200 match up!!! BHBH to be tourney director. will it be clay or hard court?

btw - u did see the Monte Carlo final?....
Sounds like fun. :)

I did see the Monte Carlo final. But we're not talking about playing Nadal on whilest he is on a mission to prove himself, on slow red clay. Nadal would have beaten anyone that day. I really admire his grit. But that doesn't mean Tony couldn't win a few games against say, Jessie Witten.

Best,

BHBH
 

bad_call

Legend
Sounds like fun. :)

I did see the Monte Carlo final. But we're not talking about playing Nadal on whilest he is on a mission to prove himself, on slow red clay. Nadal would have beaten anyone that day. I really admire his grit. But that doesn't mean Tony couldn't win a few games against say, Jessie Witten.

Best,

BHBH
ah...Jessie Witten. hope he's not reading this. :) anyway like Tony posted earlier, if he's hitting well then his odds go up.

back to Monte Carlo...the results were like 6-0 and 6-1. WOW...i mean the difference between a #3 and #9 is that much. anyway glad to see Verdasco get his confidence up and win the Barcelona.
 

TonLars

Professional
Lets be real, tony wouldn't even get 3 games against a top 200 player.
In one set, almost certainly not. In 2, pretty good chance. A guy im pretty even with (we split 2 matches last summer), Carlos Llanes, and have played doubles with together won several games against Jesse Witten actually in an open tournament about a year or two ago.

Winning games and winning sets or matches are completely different things. You could beat someone 7-6 in a set one day and a week later win 6-1 or 6-0 by playing a little better and/or winning more game point opportunities.
 
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